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Does my DP have ADHD. Can I have some advice

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Lostdirection · 26/12/2019 10:02

Name changed as although I don’t post often I feel it could be outting.

I need some support. I am slightly at breaking point and have endless thoughts running through my mind. The lead up to Christmas and recent events have led me to believe my dp’s mind doesn’t function quite how everyone else’s does- apologies if I’m phrasing this incorrectly. I really need to find a way forward so would like some opinions, advice and hand holding.

I will start by saying we’ve been together over a year, live together and have no financial commitments, no children etc. I love him and care for him deeply. I am a kind, honest, Come across as confident but equally it’s taken me a long time to be this way and so suffer with self confidence.
I will go out of my way to put others needs first, often sacrificing my own needs. I wouldn’t ever be horrible to someone or make someone feel worthless. Here is where I’m struggling.

I don’t think our relationship is working- and I don’t know whether it’s just us, me, him or underlying issues. Albeit even if there is whether I want to commit to helping support someone.

The behaviours which lead me to feel exhausted and emotionally overwhelmed are....

  • He talks over me, be that in a one to one conversation or more annoyingly in a group. I’m unable to answer my own questions, he retains information about my work and personal couples discussions which he then discusses with others. I’m often left feeling like I’m no longer heard (this wasn’t the case before)
  • He cannot take any sort of dry sense of humour or sarcasm. Everything is taken literally. If jokes made by close friends, family etc. He brings them up later and tells me off for saying it, saying that I made him feel belittled etc. He says his siblings do this too and others. These comments really aren’t. But I can see why he feels this so I’ve stopped. Often it means if other wives etc are making jokes about men leaving toilet seats up or silly things men do- I can’t comment because later it’ll be brought up and too much fuss made.
  • Lack of eye contact. At first I thought this was due to shyness & he has a slightly lazy eye. But actually I’ll notice he’s often looking elsewhere.
  • hyper sensitive to smells ... he easily wretches around things like picking up the dog poo (god forbid we need to change nappies ever), can’t take paracetamol without gagging, if he has a headache it is somehow far worse than everyone else’s. Etc etc
  • lack of self care. Forgetting deodorant, not washing clothes so running out of boxers and socks. Not noticing nasal hair, never cutting toe nails. I would just “leave him to it” but then some of these things seem to cause him great stress later on (lack of clean clothes) , me pointing out that his shirt smells even after washing.
  • having clear conversations but then they’re forgotten. We’ve made plans and then he’s forgotten. I’ve text him to remind and he’s not read it but replied about something completely unnecessary. Later it’s caused issues.
  • anxiety. For me this is a big issue- he frets about being on time, arriving at the airport is stressful he panics and is anxious (asks the time, asks for his passport constantly- I have now said check the time yourself, keep your passport ). He won’t wait for me if a taxi arrives he will go out and get in and call me on my mobile panicking it will leave. (Central London we can get another!). I have to say at the start of each overseas trip we’ve been on I’ve sat on the plane thinking “I can’t cope with this, I feel deflated and exhausted”
  • losing things. Keys. Wallet. Clothing. Anything really. I lose things but it’s the level of panic and stress he reaches if these items aren’t in front of him. Also if I ask him to go into a room to grab something, he often comes out saying he can’t find it. It will often be right there. He said he might be dyspraxia but he does nothing to manage this. - I’ve written him to do lists, made him a box for his keys wallet etc.
  • lack of self esteem. If I’ve tried to discuss the above he’s either dismissive, defensive or has once and only once opened up and cried saying he’s always felt a misfit, struggled to find a girlfriend, felt he was different. I sympathise here and it’s why I probably have stuck by and thought that I must stay and support him. I used to have extremely low self esteem and can easily slip back to it- I know how hard it is.
  • Our sex life is bad. It always has been. I hoped it would improve. It hasn’t. To the point he either has ED, can’t concentrate, my needs are never met ever so I’ve stopped wanting it. It feels like a task because none of it seems about me. My mind is totally elsewhere now. I know I’ve become distant. He’s asked but doesn’t exactly make any moves either. It’s all a bit sad really.
  • Certain days or times will be ruined by him suddenly being so hungry he will faint (yet he skips meals and never drinks water). Hangovers will throw him and if he gets a cold he takes days off work and even suggested he had meningitis last week- albeit during this he drank barely any water and lived off junk food (I had to work late).
  • he binge drinks. I tried bringing it up but sadly I get back “well so do you, remember that time”
  • there are so many other things I could list. But he’s been ill before Christmas. Brought on by excessive London Xmas parties in office and the fact we are all suffering with colds etc. But he’s said I show no sympathy, we’ve bickered a lot recently, full blown argument when on a group holiday.

I would like to add, because I feel it’s important. I suffer with depression and am medicated. I am very stable happy and have a good network of friends, social life and a successful job. My parents suffer with depression and bipolar and I have struggled with this. I have seen how my mother stayed with my father and has suffered. I cannot always be the person to give give give.
I also work in a job - I won’t say what as it’s outting- which requires organisation, meeting the needs of children, demanding at times albeit rewarding. At the end of a work day I am often mentally drained- I’ve taken on a slightly easier job recently (sane career) and feel it’s helped but now this has highlighted my home life as being draining.

Part of me thinks “why didn’t I notice before” or why did i dismiss it. I then think that he’s so kind and caring (will run me a bath after a long day)
That I should be there and push for a doctors, but he literally never goes to one, that I’m early thirties and desperately want a relationship (future marriage kids etc) I adore his family. And the thought of hurting him fills me with such sadness and anxiety.

But I’m home over Christmas feeling so utterly deflated, friends have noticed and asked. I keep snapping and he’s commented I’m nagging. I don’t ever want to be that person.

Ps- wow that was long and sorry for the typos.

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Myyearmytime · 26/12/2019 11:39

When you are relationship with someone who asd or adhd or has both .
One thing you have to realise that they will never change.
There needs will come 1st especial if you some one who put other people 1st .

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crankysaurus · 26/12/2019 12:16

Can I just point out that relationships with people with ADHD and/or ASD can work. sometimes those conditions can make it harder but it's far from a blanket no.

In your case, OP, I would suggest this doesn't sound like he's the one for you. For others it might well work out beautifully.

crankysaurus · 26/12/2019 12:24

Also, ADHD medication exists. ADHD and ASD are lifelong conditions but meds and things like counseling can help, if that person is willing and proactive.

No one can change someone else with a neurological condition, but isn't that the same with everyone?

ohwheniknow · 26/12/2019 12:35

As said, I really think you need the Freedom Programme to reset your understanding of a healthy relationship vs an abusive one.

It sounds very much like you've gone down the path of "what a relief, compared to my abusive ex this guy is so much easier" - but that doesn't mean he's not also abusive (different abusers use different tactics) or that it's a healthy relationship.

Basically your past means you're setting the bar way too low because you don't have a model for healthy relationships. FP can help you develop that. They don't just teach you about abuse, they teach you what a healthy relationship with a decent but imperfect partner looks like and how it's normal to be treated.

Maybe also look up codependency in relationships.

Www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

Does my DP have ADHD. Can I have some advice
ohwheniknow · 26/12/2019 12:37

Oh, and the course is free to attend, confidential, and they won't tell you to leave him. The point is they want to give you the information and knowledge you need to be able to make the right decisions for you and your life.

BertieBotts · 26/12/2019 12:42

Hi OP. I have ADHD, diagnosed as an adult. I will talk to you (on the phone now) but forgive me if I am on and off the thread depending on how much of the "he sounds awful how could anyone live with anyone who acts like that?!" I can stomach.

Ultimately yes if you can't cope with his behaviour, don't see ADHD (potential, real, imagined, whatever) as some kind of talisman - if anything if its true it means it's permanent and not going away. Medication and coping strategies only go so far. If there are minor issues which you feel may be able to be better managed/you just want to understand his thought processes better, that's a different story to really struggling to be with someone.

imip · 26/12/2019 12:44

It does sound more like ASD to me, but could be comorbid.

Have you mentioned it to him at all?

53rdWay · 26/12/2019 12:54

Certain days or times will be ruined by him suddenly being so hungry he will faint (yet he skips meals and never drinks water).

This in particular seems beyond normal functioning to me. Is he actually fainting or just exaggerating feeling a bit dizzy, in the same way that his cold = days off work?

Whatever it is though you can't fix it and you can't help him with it if he doesn't want to help himself. Him outsourcing planning/remembering/laundry to you is not him working on it. It sounds like your standards are far too low, if you can honestly say to yourself that he binge drinks, talks over you, doesn't get your sense of humour, his clothes smell, he causes you massive stress any time you travel anywhere and your sex life is bad, but hey he runs you a bath sometimes so that cancels it all out.

I forget things and lose things all the time. It is incredibly frustrating and coping strategies will only go so far. But it still not the job of my partner to make little boxes to put my stuff in and to write to-do lists for me. He needs to take some responsibility for how he functions and what he does about it; you can't nurse him through life like a puppy that needs socialising.

Juanmorebeer · 26/12/2019 13:01

My DH has dyslexia, depression and (undiagnosed) ADHD. I see a lot of him in what you describe here but not all of it. On paper it would seem you were describing more ASD traits especially with the sensory stuff but I am not a doctor.

It is VERY hard to live with. he brings NOTHING domestically, it is like he just 'opts out' of all chores and admin. It is a real struggle for me and causes me stress as I have to do EVERYTHING.

The difference is though in my situation after weighing it up I choose to be with him as my love for him is deeper than these flaws. He brings other things to the relationship that cancel out (most of the time!) the shit stuff. He is dependable emotionally the majority of the time if not practically round the house. We have a fantastic sex life and I feel loved by him. He is a reliable friend and we hold the same values around family, politics abd what is important in life. He makes me laugh and I would rather be spending time with him than not.

In your post there was nothing you posted that actually seems like a positive of you being together.

What is in this relationship for you? Because you sound like his carer.

kindnessllama · 26/12/2019 13:16

Threads like this always horrify me.

I have ADHD and it is never an excuse for poor manners or unacceptable behavior. Yes we get things wrong sometimes and it is hard to control but some of the behaviours listed should never be excused. A PPs description of her husband's behavior was even worse. And anyone who accepts the behaviour are with very selfish partners.

IamMaisie · 26/12/2019 13:18

Bail out now. He will not improve. ADHD and asd are not conditions that can be medicated and treated.

Very ignorant comment. I wont comment on ASD because I don't have experiece of it but Adhd absolutely CAN be medicated and treated. While none of these things cure it, they manage the symptoms.

People with Adhd can and do have healthy functioning relationships and lives, although there will always be some challenges and differences. They just have to actively manage the condition themselves

maddy68 · 26/12/2019 13:18

Sounds classic ADHD to me. He may find medication really helpful

IamMaisie · 26/12/2019 13:19

And everything that kindnessllama said

ShristmasChopper · 26/12/2019 13:20

It all.sounds very hard work and a bit joyless. You have been together only a year? I don't think those boxes well long term. As he gets more and more relaxed with you this will only get worse.

Kinsman · 26/12/2019 13:24

I could have written your post OP only I'm a decade in and we have a child so harder to walk away.
DH self medicates with drugs and treated the family to an emotional meltdown over lunch yesterday and today is rewriting history casting me as the bad guy in this sorry saga.
If I could do it again I would have run as fast as my legs could carry me when I first realised there was a problem.
You can't change someone who doesn't want to change.

Waterandlemonjuice · 26/12/2019 13:26

Get out now, it sounds awful.

justdoityourself · 26/12/2019 13:31

To be honest whatever he has or doesn't have, it sounds like you're getting very little out of this relationship, I think you should end it for your own sanity.

Bananalanacake · 26/12/2019 13:37

You can live separately but still have a relationship with him. He must have done his own washing and cut his toenails before he moved in with you. I agree it's good to give him notice to find a flat share.

cloudchaos · 26/12/2019 13:41

My DH is diagnosed with ADHD and anxiety. The main way this appears in him is emotional dysregulation, impulsivity and lack of executive function/admin problems.

He has no difficulty with eye contact, he is very charismatic and funny and popular. He is very clean and has no issues with self care. He’s also very entrepreneurial, and an inspirational speaker. Although he can’t do his expenses, he has built a thriving business, mainly due to being impulse and creative (his adhd coming out in a positive way).

He has spent his life being told he’s not good enough and this has caused him to suffer a bit with self esteem and also led to the anxiety which he uses as a coping mechanism to make sure he’s not late etc.

I’m not sure why taking sick leave or having health anxiety suggests ADHD.

Some of the things you listed could suggest adhd, ASD or just someone who’s a bit lazy, anxious or it could be just his personality.

You’ve only been with him for a year and you’ve found you’re not a great match. It doesn’t need to be any more complicated than that.

Lostdirection · 26/12/2019 14:20

Thank you for everyone’s replies. Just been for a cuppa and good chat with a friend. Never shared my feelings but she says she’s been able to tell for a while.

I realise he must’ve functioned without me previously. I just know he says his life is complete with me, in our lovely home, with my dog etc etc and it’s knowing I’ll take that away that saddens me. I am also scared/worried I won’t find another boyfriend who cares for me, at 30 i would’ve rather been getting engaged and looking at a family. BUT I realise - especially from my own parents and reading these forums- that settling just so you can have those things is stupid.

As I’ve said I suffer with depression myself. But I treat it- through medication, but also by making sure I look after myself, the gym, a dog walk, having tea with friends and not going out all night etc. I’ve been rock bottom and I can see myself getting like this.

I also realise he clearly was happy enough yesterday to not phone- but perhaps not everyone would call their partners on Xmas day?

Yes I plan to go back after Xmas and discuss what’s been happening, how I’m concerned and see what he comes out with. I don’t particularly see a way forward for us as a couple. I just want him to be happy (I know a few men who’ve committed suicide and of course I worry for this).

Again yes after a year I should be, and I know I should, walk away and aim for a relationship that fills me with more joy.

There are positives yes- but I am struggling after feeling so fed up- to remember them. He’s very affectionate which I enjoy, but at times find suffocating.

Anyway I’m now rambling.

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JKScot4 · 26/12/2019 14:42

OP just keep telling yourself you are not his mother or his carer, a year in it should be wonderful not an endless list if his selfish, stupid behaviours. I think you will keep making exceptions and excuses, he’s not your responsibility, walk away, happiness will find you.

Lostdirection · 26/12/2019 16:00

Thank you obviously we have good times. But I agree the first year should be much easier

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crankysaurus · 26/12/2019 17:33

I hope you know you're not responsible for his mental health, given you mention you know some men who've taken their own lives. That should never be a reason for you to stay in a relationship that isn't right. By all means signpost them to help, and call the emergency services if they threaten suicide, but don't ever feel you have to stay to prevent anything happening.

Interestedwoman · 26/12/2019 17:42

A lot of what you decide is more like ASD. I was diagnosed with 'ADHD with autistic features,' recently in my early 40s, so he may have a bit of both. If he won't go to the doctors, there's not much you can do, though it might help you make allowances and have less annoyance- though your annoyance is completely understandable, and there's only so much anyone can take.

' I’m often left feeling like I’m no longer heard (this wasn’t the case before)'

This shows that when he wants to he can try harder. Either way, you need to talk to him more about how you're feeling, say you need him to make more of an effort like he used to, and that perhaps he has ADHD or ASD. ADHD is treatable- for some people the meds work really well. I suppose you could even give him an ultimatum that you need him to go to the docs.

Either way, it must be hard work for you. Hugs and best wishes xxxxx

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