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How can I get past this?

33 replies

Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 14:44

Hi all, NC as friends know my username.

I’ve been with my husband for about 8 years, married for 3, and I love him so very much. However I can’t get past previous problems he’s caused in our relationship.

The main incident was happening for 2 years on and off but I only discovered what had been going on last year.
We’d been together for 6 months and had just gotten engaged, and moved in together where he lived.
I moved away from all family, friends and familiarity to be with him though the move was temporary due to him studying.
I got a job very quickly which had me working 6pm-6am 4 days a week at first, then after 3 months I found a better paid one which had better hours - this is relevant honestly!
So it turns out he was on and off sending explicit messages to women and asking for (and getting) images of them masturbating and in other scenarios. I’m not sure if he was sending them, probably? He was talking about what he’d do to them etc for all of that time, he used a profile photo that wasn’t of him, so I’m not sure if anything physical happened.
The only reason I found this out was due to him still having an account (albeit it had, according to the website, been inactive for 4-5 years and there were no messages after early 2013) and getting a message from the website about updates t&cs.
I knew what the website was from hearsay and so logged in - he’s terrible and has similar passwords for everything so easy to do. I asked him about it and he swore he had knifes what it was about and acted shocked when I told him what I’d found. We argued for days, but in the end I said I would try to get past it as I was pregnant with our children.

The issue is I can’t get past it, as he supposedly can’t remember what happened, why he did it, if there were other websites or for how long he was doing it. He says he was so ashamed he’s repressed it, and says that he was probably all down to him being stupid, immature and suffering with MH issues from being a pre-teen.
It’s not enough for me though, i feel like it’s all so convenient that he’s forgotten all of it, and in order to get past this I feel I need to know everything.
Half truths, and the fact I found out for myself, have left me untrusting and feeling like it will happen again.

Aside from that lies about money come naturally to him, he’s hidden admittedly innocent messages to other women on his phone so I wouldn’t see them (so it didn’t cause an argument?!)
After we lost our first baby he was joining chat rooms to talk to strangers (supposedly about killing himself) and looking up his ex-girlfriend too, this was about 3 years ago.

Please, can somebody tell me how we can move past this? He’s asked what he can do to make this work and help me to trust him again, but apart from knowing all the details I just can’t think of a way,
He has suffered from depression and anxiety for a large portion of his life but I don’t feel this should mean he isn’t accountable for his actions or that he felt what he was doing was so insignificant he can’t remember ANYTHING about lying to someone he loved.

He says he’s so sorry, and ashamed of himself, and wishes he could change what he did or remember what happened so I can start healing, but he can’t.

I’ll never be as young, slim, and beautiful as I was back then, and he still did what he did, so despite him saying it won’t happen again what would stop him?!
I feel so inadequate and low, that I wasn’t good enough to hold his attention solely and deserve his love.

If you managed to read all of that thank you, and apologies for the long post.

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Havaina · 17/12/2019 14:51

I think your gut is telling you that he is never going to change. The chatting is an unbreakable habit for men who do this, he will not be able to stop.

downatthebottom · 17/12/2019 15:00

You have been very literate about the problems and the pain it causes you. It is obvious that this is who he is and it won't change. As Maya Angelou said, 'when someone shows you who they are, believe them.'

You don't trust him as he has give n you good reason not to trust him.

I ruined my life staying with a man I loved very much, a man whose company I preferred to everyone else's. But that isn't enough when your partner has significant issues, and your's does.

There is nothing anyone can say to make this work for you.

Bluntness100 · 17/12/2019 15:10

I'm sorry but I think he's a sleaze ball and he's bullshitting you on not remembering.

Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:11

Do you both really feel there is nothing that can be done? We were both young when it started (very early 20s) and he swears he would never risk our relationship or family like that again.
He says that he’s not the same man anymore since he got help for his depression & anxiety.

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Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:12

@Bluntness100 - I feel he’s lying about that too.

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calllaaalllaaammma · 17/12/2019 15:13

Why do you feel like you have to move past it?
Trust your gut he sounds full of excuses.

Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:17

I feel like I owe it to my children to at least try, and I do love him. I’m not blinded by that love though, if I feel I he can’t rebuild the trust then I will leave.

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ohwheniknow · 17/12/2019 15:17

Sorry, but I can't see anything to suggest there's something worth "saving".

puds11 · 17/12/2019 15:18

I don’t think you can move past it. He won’t take responsibility for his actions and is using MH as an excuse. There are multiple occasions where he has been devious. Why do you even want to be with him? And don’t say because of the children.

puds11 · 17/12/2019 15:18

Seems I was too slow in my post

ohwheniknow · 17/12/2019 15:19

You owe it to your children to create a stable, safe home and model healthy relationships.

Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:19

@ohwheniknow - Understandable as everything I’ve said is negative, there are obviously good things about our relationship too.
I guess a better way of putting it is by saying everything this side of the lie is great but our past is full of them.

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ohwheniknow · 17/12/2019 15:20

Don't use your children as an excuse to stay in a shit relationship. They won't thank you for it.

puds11 · 17/12/2019 15:21

Is it great or have you just not unearthed additional lies yet? He’s not remorseful or accepting responsibility.

Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:22

@puds11 - Not solely because of that no, ‘staying together for the kids’ is very old fashioned and wrong. My parents did it and they’re horrendous together.
We don’t argue in front of the children and their home is stable. We don’t argue very much, this has just come back up due to a friend experiencing similar issues.

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Gemma1971 · 17/12/2019 15:23

The problem is once someone has lied about something as icky as that, a breach of intimate trust, how can you ever trust them again?

puds11 · 17/12/2019 15:24

I don’t know why people focus so much on the arguing. It’s showing your children a loving, respectful relationship built on trust that matters and I don’t think you can say you have that currently.

Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:26

Loving yes, but not respectful on his part due to his previous indiscretions and his persistence with the ‘I can’t remember‘ line.

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Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:27

@Gemma1971 - That’s my predicament. I’m looking for ways for him to build that trust and help him to save our marriage, before I call it time.

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Palavah · 17/12/2019 15:31

Have you considered counselling? It doesn't matter how young, beautiful or slim someone is, it doesn't make them immune from being cheated on or having their heartbroken.

If you can see that he is now, consistently, behaving the way you would want the father or your children to behave then individual therapy for you or couples counseling might help you with trust.

Ultimately the best environment for your children is one where both parents are happy and their relationships provide a good role model for the kids.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 17/12/2019 15:37

Please, can somebody tell me how we can move past this?

Why would you want to be with such an utter sleaze? Please have some self respect.

Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:37

@palavah - I know, I guess that is my irrational mind thinking that if I’m no different apart from externally, what would stop him in the future? If you see what I mean?
I wouldn’t have classed myself as slim or beautiful then either!

We haven’t tried counselling, we don’t really have the funds for that sort of thing right now or the time, but if we stayed together it would be something I’d insist on down the line when we could afford it.
He is a wonderful father, he parents alongside me equally and is brilliant in the respect, and aside from all of this we have a very loving relationship - at least now.

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Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:39

@GreenFingersWouldBeHandy - I understand your point, I have felt like this before. However I’m looking for ways for us to go forward, if there are any.

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MashedChristmasPud · 17/12/2019 15:41

You say this happened in his early twenties. I think most young guys tend to think with their dicks a lot at that time. I’m not excusing his behaviour. It was wrong and he hurt you.

If he hasn’t done anything else since you have a couple of choices:
Trust him,
Semi trust him and snoop,
Cut your losses and move forward without him.

Decisionstobemade · 17/12/2019 15:46

@mashedchristmaspud -
Thank you, in my gut I feel at least the last few years there has been nothing, which has coincided with him seeking help for his issues.
I would like to trust him, however I know there are steps to getting there if that was the case, I’m looking for advice on the steps.
I’m not sure if snooping is a good idea, it doesn’t feel trusting at all.

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