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Woman’s perspective

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Sw05 · 12/12/2019 17:39

Ok so here goes, I’ve been with my wife for 20 years married for nearly 15 years. We have had our ups and downs over the years. The last several have not been the greatest of times together my wife told me twice she was no longer in love with me a few years ago but we worked through that and she said it was a mistake and that she did love me. Our sex life over the years has diminished but now we no longer sleep together I’m on the sofa and she has the bed ( been like this for 2 years now). We made love once this year and probably over the last few years I could count on one hand. I’ve tried to talk I buy her flowers, chocolates do the ironing, cooking tell her I love her give her space but she just doesn’t seem to have or want any intimacy at all. It’s breaking my heart I feel sick inside and so lonely, I’ve been there when she needs me but I just don’t know what else to do. I’ve asked if she loves me and she has said yes but words mean nothing without any actions. She doesn’t kiss unless I kiss her she won’t cuddle hold hands snuggle on the sofa and if I even try and get near I feel rejected time after time. I’ve just said to her about I’m worried about our relationship and she will never talk about it because it’s either the wrong time or she’s not going over this again and says why can’t I just leave it instead of keep poking and poking. I said because I want to sort this then she gets a message on fb and conversation ends. I don’t want this to end but I feel so lonely and I really don’t think my wife wants me as a husband but more of a...... well I really don’t know what I am to her. So I’m asking you ladies what am I doing wrong am I pushing too much for answers? Should I back off and not talk about it? Does she really love me even though she says she does because I’m running on empty and have no idea

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NaturalDisasters · 13/12/2019 19:04

why women feel the way they do

But your wife isn't 'women', she's one particular woman, and you know her better than a bunch of strangers on the internet.

And you keep saying that if you wanted sex you'd go on Tinder. Not necessarily. You don't want to have sex with anyone, but you want to have sex with your wife, and you want that to be her way of expressing her love for you. Unfortunately, she doesn't want to have sex with you. Which may not mean she doesn't love you, but just that she doesn't want to have sex. You have a better chance of figuring out why that is than anyone on Mn I've suggested some common reasons above but you may find yourself choosing between sex and your marriage.

NightsOfCabiria · 13/12/2019 19:19

You’re flogging a dead horse here OP. She's all talk and no action. Even if you do go to counselling, I doubt she’ll change. Better off accepting that your marriage is over and build a new life for yourself as sadly, it sounds like she’s just not interested in you at all. If you stay, the daily rejection will crush you. Dont leave the country though, you have an obligation to raise your daughter.

Sw05 · 13/12/2019 21:24

NaturalDisasters I honestly don’t get why your having a go?I came on here to get a woman’s perspective not to see how to get my wife back into having sex. Again I will explain to you, I am on here to ask opinions from a woman’s perspective hence the title, yes of course I miss making love to my wife BUT now here’s the big reason, I want to save my Marridge, I want to feel part of something special, I want to feel loved, I want to make my wife happy. IF and yes IF we make love again then that’s an amazing breakthrough but I just want to be in a loving caring relationship with my wife and not feel rejected and lonely. I’m sorry if you are not understanding what I’m saying but I’m asking opinions BUT not how to have sex with my wife.

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NaturalDisasters · 13/12/2019 21:35

I’m not ‘having a go’ at you at all.

What do you actually want your wife to do differently? You keep talking about ‘intimacy’ and ‘closeness’, but what would that actually look like from your point of view?

Mermaidsinthesand · 13/12/2019 22:15

Shes keeping you interested that things will get better whilst sussing out/getting more intermate with lover boy she chatting too.

Once shes sure of him she will drop you like a hot rock. Check her phone you would be suprised what you find

Sw05 · 13/12/2019 22:34

She’s not cheating/having an affair with lover boy I know that for a fact I’ve also told her that if there is someone else tell me and I will go BUT and I believe her there is no one else

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Deadjinglebellringer · 13/12/2019 22:57

I think she doesn't love you any more but doesn't want to be single. I am no longer in love with my husband of 30 years, we no longer have any kind of intimacy, but we get on together well enough and have no plans to separate at present. The difference with us though is that we both feel the same way. You sound so unhappy in your situation that I think a split is inevitable.

Brig93 · 13/12/2019 22:59

I think for first you have to cut out the affair part, make sure there is nothing going on between her and someone else. Once you are 100% sure then try to have a counceling, to find out what is the issue with her lack of feelings and generally everything. Because I don't believe people who love each other will be living under the same roof like some kind of house mates. She acts like that. She got used to the same routine and seems like she is comfortable about that. But she needs to understand that you are not happy like this no matter what she believes that other couples are like this. No other couples who are in love would be like that. I do love my partner and every day we kiss we hugg and say each other that we love each other. I'm not saying everyone should be like that but I think living the way you are at the moment would made me go insane long time ago. I completely understand you, how heartbreaking it is for you not being showed love. Making love is part of it, that's why it called making love not just sex. Being intimate with someone you love is just more ways to express your feelings and being close to that person. How old is your child? When exactly you two started drifting off in the relationship? She might have depression and doesn't even realize it. Please message me if you need to talk I'm here to listen ☺️

Sw05 · 13/12/2019 23:15

Brig93 thank you so much that means a lot. I am 100% certain there is nobody else. Reading what you have is everything I want in this Marridge my child is 14 and I/we don’t know when we started to drift. We are planning counselling after Christmas so that a start. I will message you as it’s good to have someone to talk to as I don’t really have any family. Thank you again 👍

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Antibles · 13/12/2019 23:33

The 'Ick'.

And snoring is maddening and has probably contributed.

Washedoutlady · 15/12/2019 21:16

The only real explanation is that she doesn't love you anymore. If that's the case then the sex just goes, but she's not brave enough to tell you. If you initiate the breakup then it looks like it's you that's chosen to leave. She owes it to you to tell you what's really happening, it isn't fair on you.

IndieTara · 15/12/2019 23:12

Snoring that causes the other person sleep deprivation is horrendous.
What help have you sought for your snoring Op?
I had a partner who snored like a rhino and refused to seek any medical help. Every night I'd end up in the sofa to get some quiet and then he'd wake up, realise I wasn't there and come and wake me up to go back to bed !
He never took it seriously and would tell
Me to just ' kick me so I stop' which it would for maybe 30 seconds until it all started up again.
His attitude and my constant tiredness just eroded the love I'd previously felt for him.

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