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Husband cheated and left

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caketimeisover · 04/12/2019 10:57

10 weeks ago I found out that my husband of 9 years (together 14, 3 kids aged 6, 4 and 1) has been having an affair for over a year. The affair partner (now girlfriend?! Vomit) is a mutual friend who knows me and my kids. It started when I was 6 months pregnant with number 3 and I knew immediately something was wrong, so I spent months desperately trying to get him to talk to me - I thought he was clinically depressed and was comforting him when he was crying. He was completely distant and unloving towards me, even when I was pregnant and then had a newborn as well as the other two to look after. He starting to go "to the pub" every week, starting when our baby was 2 weeks old (turns out that's when he started sleeping with her, although it all started with a drunken snog at a wedding a few months earlier).

After months of begging him to tell me what was wrong and turning myself inside out to make him happy and support him, I pushed him for an answer as to why he was driving us into a wall and he said he thought it best if he left so we could just be friends - he couldn't tell me why, and changed his mind when I shouted at him, told him he was an idiot and threw my phone across the room (but still didn't tell me about the affair). He agreed to marriage counselling but turns out he carried on seeing her the whole time. He told me everything I'd done wrong in our marriage (I worked too hard, didn't get on with his mum, made him feel guilty for going out, am too independent, am not strict enough with the kids etc etc) and watched me kill myself trying to change and fix things, but he didn't move an inch. He told me I made him feel bad for going to Glastonbury for 5 days (which we used to go to together, got engaged there, ended our honeymoon there - but since having kids he just went with his friends while I stayed at home with the kids), then went there in the middle of all this, leaving me at home with 3 tiny kids (I later found out he had sex with her while he was there).

There were 4 more months after the "I think I should leave" revelation, with him saying he didn't know if he wanted to save our marriage or not, while I had panic attacks, lost loads of weight, couldn't eat or sleep - and he did nothing, just carried on seeing her it turns out. He finally told me about the affair in a marriage counseling session by reading out a confession he'd written on his phone - he'd always had feelings for her, this had happened because there were problems in our marriage (problems he didn't tell me about until he'd be shagging her for nearly a year), maybe something had always been missing between us and he's found it with her... then he said he still didn't know what he wanted! The next day he decided to leave but only because I made him tell me everything, I realised there was no coming back from this and forced him to say what he'd been too much of a coward to say all along. I suspect he was hoping I'd make the decision for him so he wouldn't have to be the bad guy - ha, too late dickhead! He walked out 3 weeks after our daughter started school, 3 weeks before our baby son's first birthday and a month before my maternity leave ended.

The kids are coping ok - my oldest's first thought was that it would be tough for me (he's 6), my daughter's been sad but is getting extra support at school. I've been ignoring him since we told the kids he was leaving (every conversation we had in person ended with me a sobbing wreck on the floor) and only communicating via email. I filed for divorce 3 weeks after he left (2 days before my baby's first birthday) and sent him a proposal as to how I could buy him out of the house (which of course he had ignored). I arranged individual counseling, reached out to friends for support and started to feel strong and like I was moving forwards for a while. But I feel like I've hit a wall now, and I feel just so miserable and anxious, mainly about the kids.

So far ex has been seeing the kids at the house - dropping them at school a couple of times a week, coming to do bedtime a couple of times and seeing them for a day at the weekend. It's hard having him in the house so much, but the kids are pleased to see him and I'm not losing much time with them. But he got the keys to his new flat at the weekend and the reality of them going to stay with him, away from me and their home, is starting to hit. I've hardly ever been away from any of them, but have never had a night away from our baby, who is now 13 months old. I know logically they need a good relationship with him, and that has to include weekends and some overnights. He said he wanted close to 50/50 time with them, but I think we'll end up with something nearer every other weekend and an overnight in the week plus extra school drop offs, just because they're so young and not used to being away from me. It can build over time, and I'm willing to be flexible for their sakes. But even the thought of that, of them being away and not being at home with me is killing me. The last few days I just can't stop crying.

Has anyone else had similar with such young kids, especially the baby? Any words of advice or encouragement? Any thing that helped you or the kids deal with all this? It feels like he's waiting for me to make all the arrangements, but how am I supposed to do that when I don't want any of this at all?

It all feels like it's too much to process - the betrayal, the end of my marriage, having to hand over my kids, being alone, him moving on to make a new life with someone else while he was still married to me (and while I was pregnant/had just given birth)... Eurgh.

Thanks for reading this far.

OP posts:
DBML · 04/12/2019 11:19

I have no advice, just wanted to say how sorry I am that this has happened to you. I know it’s a cliche, but things will get better.
Hopefully lots of helpful advice is on its way 💐

GinderellaByMidnight · 04/12/2019 11:27

Im so sorry you're going through a rough time OP. I don't have any advice but I do have words of encouragement after similar happened to me. I had an 18 month old daughter and exDP had an affair and left to be with her. (He is still with her now) Leaving me alone in a brand new house we had just moved into that very day he left! The cheek!
Anyway. It was tough having to had over my DD every single weekend for stay overs at her dads, but you know what. It really helped me find my self again. Being a single parent is HARD. and having my weekends to my self gave me the chance to live my life again. To be me and not just mummy. I remembered what was important to me, what I wanted to acheive outside the realms of parenting. It helped massively with my mental health after a messy breakup. I just came to realise he's her problem now and the only person that could ever let me down again was myself.

Sunshineandflipflops · 04/12/2019 11:27

Oh op, I'm so sorry to hear what you've been going through. Please remember it's very early days though and as much of a cliche as it is, time will help, it really will.

I was in a similar position to you two years ago and a lot of what you wrote, I could have written (in fact I did). My exh started acting differently too - the distance, the lack of care or empathy, going out more, etc. I confronted him eventually, he told he wasn't happy but didn't know why, blamed me for lots of things (making him feel guilty for going out, me not going out enough, blah blah) so I spent two weeks agonising over how I could be a better wife and make him happier, until I found messages between him and a (12 years younger, childless) colleague who he was clearly having an affair with.

His bag was packed when he got home from work that day, they 'stayed' together for almost two painful years until he finished with her a few weeks ago for someone else more his own age with a child of her own (funny that).

I won't lie, there have been very dark days over the last two years and it's been very up and down but I never wanted the kids (who were 10 and 11) to see how horrible it all was so mummy and daddy were 'still friends, just not making each other happy anymore' (that killed me) and they have had regular EOW and 1-2 overnight stays with him in his rented house ever since.

Thankfully although he wasn't the greatest husband in the end, he is a good dad and their relationship with him hasn't suffered, in fact he probably spends more quality time with them now than he did while he was sneaking around having an affair.

I would give anything for any of this not to have happened but my life is so much better now than in those early days/weeks/months. I have learned how strong and capable I am, my kids have a good role model, and I am in a new relationship with a lovely guy.

You will get there, you will because you have to to start with and then you'll want to. Feel free to PM me if I can help any more x

SuperbMonkey · 04/12/2019 14:41

Exactly the same set of facts for me without the children. 3 months in. I had no warning. The affair with his ex has still not been admitted as he wants everyone to think he is a great person. Where possible I have told people the truth. It is horrible but it will get better. You did the right thing. Your children will be proud of you when they are older.

plumebaby · 04/12/2019 15:01

This hasn’t happened to me but it happened to a friend. Almost the exact same scenario. Shagging around when the baby was a few weeks old. All I can tell you is that she told me she now loves her life. She’s a few years down the line. She has a bf who adores her. Treats her properly and she has the best of it all. When kids are with the dad the bf takes her out and she has the best time. You can do this. Set your mind that you don’t want somebody who would do this to you. He’s not good enough. If you can, go for the 50/50. It will be good for you to get time to yourself. Rebuild your life. Go take a class. Get out and meet people. Go dating! It sets a precedent that he can’t have it all his own way. It will be good for him to show him how hard solo childcare is. Make him do his half. Don’t be a martyr. My friends ex is now on his own after several failed relationships. Let’s face it, somebody who fucks around on a pregnant lady and treats you that way has serious issues/personality problems and that will bite him again. Let him go with a wave “off you fuck”. Every woman I know personally who has had this happen to them now is thriving with better partners and is wallowing in happiness whilst the ex is still struggling because they are deeply damaged/unhappy people. This is your time. You rise up. Do not cry in front of him again. You no longer want him. He’s nobody to you now apart from a co-parent. You have no interest in his emotions or problems. Rehearse this phrase “not my problem” use it. You no longer have responsibility for him. You no longer have to wash his shitty underpants. You no longer have to have sex with that piece of crap (yay!) you’re FREE!! He now has to live with the guilt forever. Now you get to show your kids the woman you are and how awesome you are at negotiating being a co parent despite what he did to you. They are going to fricking adore you and one day say to everyone “my mother was a queen and an inspiration”

plumebaby · 04/12/2019 15:04

Oh and never take him back. Never. My friends ex tried. Of course. Because when the shag buddy wasn’t interesting anymore and life got hard again, he wanted her solving it all and facilitating him again. She told him “get lost mate”

Ilovethekitties · 04/12/2019 19:49

OP I am so sorry. I dont have any advice but you sound lovely and your husband is a fucking asshole.

Trustyourinnersatnav · 04/12/2019 20:10

I'm so sorry you are going through this. The pain is unimaginable. You went above and beyond to support him. Time will help. Use your free time to focus on you, to finding your true self again and to heal. You sound so incredibly caring and strong. You deserve so much more. Remember that. The only thing that helps me (similar situation) is taking one day at a time, when the anxiety, anger, sadness rises within you, sit with it, feel it and let it dissipate. Reading, and a good series has helped distract me. It's unbearable at times but it will get better

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 04/12/2019 20:21

I'm sorry this all happened OP

His behaviour in general (not just the affair) sounded shit, with him going off partying and leaving you at home. Of course its going to be difficult now he has his own place, its suddenly a lot more official and this will have made you reflect on everything.

But I do think its healthier that he wont be round yours as much. You can make it yours and the kids house, not yours and his.

I think with young kids (under 2) its little and often building up to overnights when they are around 2, so do whatever is best for the little one, whether that's going with his siblings or spending the day with them but going back to yours for sleep and working up to staying there. If he was an involved dad then it might be ok to do overnights earlier.

Hopefully once you've got used to being apart from them, you will use the time to get stuff done, and to have fun and recharge your batteries so that when you're with them again you'll be an even better parent

I bet in 12-18 months you will be on here giving advice to all the other people going through it

caketimeisover · 04/12/2019 22:07

Thank you so so much for the replies. I started the day crying in the loos at work, and this has really picked me up.

It's so overwhelming at times - I just want to skip forward a year or so to when things are whatever the new normal will be. But I know he sucks. I know I'm better without him. I know I will be the best mum I can for my 3 beautiful kids. I just wish this wasn't their story, they deserved so much better than this mess.

I'm still trying to work out what to do with access, but I am stuck when it comes to overnights for my 13 month old. I don't want to be apart from him, and it doesn't feel right to separate him from his older siblings either - but I'm sure they'll want to stay over as soon as the flat is all set up (he has to furnish it, but probably be ready in the next couple of weeks). So maybe we just build up slowly to overnights for all three of them. On the other hand, part of me thinks that maybe it's better to just get on with it (which has the added bonus of getting my ex out of my house sooner).

On the plus side I got confirmation that my application for a decree nisi had been accepted today, so one step closer to getting him out of my life (or as much as I can do when we have 3 kids together... Siiiiggghhh)

OP posts:
fullofregrets1 · 04/12/2019 22:10

First of all I'm so sorry you are going through this.

I have been through similar, H walked out and for months blamed me and my behaviour/attitude. Gaslighted me, made me feel near suicidal for being a horrible person he made me believe I was.
My children (6&4) were devastated, cried themselves to sleep every night... it was truly devastating.
He came crawling back after 5 months and I took him back, mainly for the children. Most days I wish I hadn't.
So my advice to you is to stay strong, things do get easier and you learn to make the most of child free time and focus on yourself.

Fairycake2 · 04/12/2019 22:25

OP I'm so sorry you are going through this. I don't really have any advice to add to what others have said but didn't want to read and not comment.

Fizzysours · 05/12/2019 06:30

From my friends' experiences, the 50/50 thing is exhausting for kids (and some twats use it to avoid paying maintenance, not for their kids' benefit) so I would try to stand your ground on keeping contact more in your favour. Baby is very young!!! Hopefully he feels vaguely remorseful and won't fight you on everything.....

Catamapella · 05/12/2019 07:03

I've been through a very similar experience OP - husband cheated and ended our relationship whilst I was pregnant with my first. I won't rehash the details, but you asked specifically about your youngest. By the time my ex husband moved out, my baby was 20 months old. We went straight to 50/50 care and it seems to have worked well over the last year. My daughter enjoys one on one time with her dad and I enjoy having child free time to get my house in order and enjoy my hobbies. I've even managed a couple of long weekends away, child-free.

I completely understand the awful sense of betrayal and hurt you must be feeling. I know it's a cliche, but it really does get better with time. I can honestly say that I am happy with my new life. I wish you all the best over the next few months.

allaboutthequestions · 05/12/2019 07:18

Hello, I have 50/50 with ex, kids are now 9,5 and 3. It's hard. The guilt is hard. But it is what is best for the kids and that is what keeps me going. They all have such a great bond with their dad, which has only gotten stronger as he has actually had to do a lot of parenting whereas when we were together it was mostly me. My youngest was not used to being without me when it all started out but now he is flourishing and has relationships with a lot of different people that he is comfortable staying with. I miss them dearly but I also have had a chance to build myself a life away from being mum. And having that help in raising them is so much better then having to go it alone. Reach out to family and friends and when the kids do start going to dads keep yourself busy and try doing things you enjoy or doing new things. Big hand hold xx

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 05/12/2019 07:39

This has only happened very recently op.
Quite frankly, I’m surprised you made it back to work with so much happening. You are showing amazing strength, your dc are very lucky to have you. Flowers
Your ex dh is a dickhead and a loser. I’m glad he left the family home because now you can stop investing your time and energy in someone who so clearly does not deserve you and he’s to thick to see how lucky he is.
I promise you , things will get better. You are not alone. Koko you are going to have so many wonderful things happen in your future Flowers

caketimeisover · 06/12/2019 17:16

Thank you Beerincomechampagnetastes and everyone. Just the reassurance that he is indeed a massive dickhead is really helpful, as sometimes it's hard not to start blaming myself for all of this somehow.

OP posts:
Prawnofthepatriarchy · 06/12/2019 18:04

Just the reassurance that he is indeed a massive dickhead is really helpful, as sometimes it's hard not to start blaming myself for all of this somehow.

Rest assured, he's a weapons grade bastard. He's not fit to be a husband or a dad. Liar, manipulator, all round creep. You, OTOH, sound lovely.

elmosducks · 06/12/2019 19:04

My goodness, you are superwoman. So sorry he turned out to be such a dick. Stay strong, it will get better.

As a teacher, please continue to talk to your DC's teachers. They can help support them through this. Your 13m will be fine, although he might need a slight adaption phase.
Thanks

Shinsplints · 06/12/2019 22:07

@caketimeisover Oh OP, I'm so sorry he's put you through this. You sound amazing and you 100% deserve better than him. I only have 1 DC (he is 7) and after 3 months separation from my H he has now spent two nights away from me (in total). Previously his Dad was here all the time which was actually more stressful. I know it's best for DS to have a good relationship with his Dad so I'm facilitating this as much as I can but god it's so hard. For the first night DS was away I arranged for a friend to stay over with me. We had a lovely time and I honestly did enjoy having a bit of time to myself despite missing DS. The second time I decided to just see how it felt on my own but I didn't really make good use of my time and I didn't enjoy it quite so much...so for his next night away another friend is staying over with me. Having company and plans really helps me to cope and I know it will get easier with time. Remember what is best for your DC and keep that as your focus when it feels hard. They will thank you for it in the future.

Good luck OP. You will get through this Thanks

caketimeisover · 08/12/2019 22:26

Thank you for the comments, it does really help (have never posted anything on anywhere before!). Had a great day with the kids today, we bought a Christmas tree and decorated it while watching Elf and just pottered about. It was lovely. But I still just have this horrible sense of dread that won’t go away. I don’t really miss him, I mean he wasn’t really here even when he was and I can’t really remember the last time he was nice to me, that we were properly happy together. It's just hard not to feel quite scared and sad all the time. Eurgh. But he sucks. What a dickhead. And my kids are amazing and happy, and that’s all that really matters.

OP posts:
MaeveDidIt · 08/12/2019 22:55

Not that it's any consolation, but at least the bastard has now met his match.
What utter low-lifes to do that to you.

Lozzerbmc · 08/12/2019 23:34

Sorry this has happened- I experienced similar with my exh without the DCs but I’m glad he ended our marriage now! But it was hard at the time, his affair was a shock. But I survived and so will you!

Do you have to let kids stay there in week - i’d check on your rights as i’d have thought a bit disruptive. Beware of the 50/50 custody in case he sees that as a way to pay less/no maintenance.

It will get better, be kind to yourself and do things to make you feel good. Know that it wont last with the OW .. what an idiot he is!

Topazance · 08/12/2019 23:48

Stay strong OP and if some days you don't then see it as a temporary blip. What goes around comes around. If I was the ow I would always wonder if he was going to do that to me too. What a shit head for doing that. No one wants someone who does that. Well done you for forging ahead and getting a divorce etc. Your dcs are lucky to have a strong mum.

justilou1 · 09/12/2019 00:02

You poor thing! I have to say that I don’t believe that he waited that long to start shagging her. I think that started when his behaviour went “off” and he started disappearing. He’s an arse and is following “The Script”. There are lots of resources here for you to find including Chump Wife, and this will help prepare you for HIS behaviour so it won’t come as such a shock. (I hate to break it to you, but they are all the same at times like this.) The first thing you need to do is get yourself financially sorted while he’s feeling guilty.

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