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Are these red flags? Advice please.

212 replies

goshohmy · 29/11/2019 07:26

...or am I over-analysing things?

I'm trying to work out some things about my (new-ish) relationship. Was single for ages before this and really don't have much experience of men or relationships. I'm 32. I've been googling and reading threads and I just don't know. I'm seeing this guy and for the most part he's very affectionate and we have a nice time but other things make me feel a bit off kilter and I don't know if it's just my imagination or if we're just not suited to each other maybe.
So we usually see each other over the weekend and we plan this in advance but sometimes we see each other on weekdays and this is usually arranged that day or the day before. A while ago he text me in the morning and asked me to go over to his place that night and I agreed and he said he would pick me up after work and drive us to his. I was in work too and at about 11 am I said it would be nice if he picked me up, thanks. He didn't reply again for the whole day and didn't read my message even though I could see he was online. I assumed he was busy and didn't think anything of it. He then called me at the time I thought he'd be at mine to pick me up (6.30 pm) but he said he'd forgotten and accidentally driven most of the way home and he said he could come back and collect me but he didn't sound like he wanted to and then he said I could get the train and he'd pick me up at the train station. I was in such a tizzy that I just agreed because I had to run to catch the train. He lives a 30 minute drive from me and the train is 15 minute walk away and only once an hour and takes 25 mins and doesn't go that close to his place, he still has to drive to collect me.

This is the thing I can't ask anyone IRL. So when he asked me over I'd mentioned I was having my period. He actually clarified that with me later that night. He'd said we could watch a movie and have an early night, which is what we did. Next morning i used his bathroom and toilet - they are separate rooms - and then he went into the toilet and came out and we had this conversation:
Him: is everything okay?
Me: yes.
Him: (just stares at me)
Me: why?
Him: there was a drop of blood on the handle in the toilet. (Stare)
Me: oh I'm sorry.
Him: (just stares)
Me: I'm sorry, I don't know what to say.
Him: (stares)
Me: I'm sorry, I'm really embarrassed.
Him: (stares)
Me: I'm sorry, I really don't know what to say.
Him: (stares a bit more) it's okay, give me a cuddle before we go out.

I should add that my immediate thought was that he was making it up to show me that he was okay with it or something. I know that seems weird but it was just the feeling I got. I felt like he wasn't telling the truth. My period was really light and I washed my hands and dried them in a small white towel. So thinking over it I just don't see how it happened. But even if I did do it I still think it's strange. It's never happened before. So it's not like I'm always doing it and he had to bring it up because it was an issue.

He's made a good few comments about me splashing water next to the sink when I wash my hands so I'm always really careful and I always check that the sink and the floor and towel are clean after I've used them. He's said things like "if you have trouble washing your hands you can do it in the kitchen instead", to which I said "am I splashing a lot" and he said yes. The thing is he's clean but not overly clean but he's reacted in a strange way a few times, once I almost touched the window in his kitchen and he grabbed my arm and said "I have to clean that". Another time he had spilled something in his kitchen and cleaned it up but it was still sticky and as I was walking into the kitchen he was pointing and telling me not to step in it and I thought I was stepping over it and he was a bit "off" that I stepped on it. He never gets angry with me, I always just feel like I've done something wrong or I'm in the way.

Another example is we were cooking, just throwing stuff together from the fridge and he took out some onions to chop but said they made his eyes water so I offered to do it and he walked off and I chopped the onions. He came back and said "you chopped them like that?" And I said "yes". I was confused for a second because I thought there'd been a recipe or I hadn't heard him say he wanted them chopped a certain way. So he took over then and said "my mum chops them like this" and he chopped them up really fine. It was weird because there wasn't really much of a difference between how I'd done it and how they ended up. I also thought it was weird because he seems a bit resentful of his mum. he told me a few times very early on that he was bullied as a teenager because his mum made him think he was better than other people. He said he'd forgiven her though.
Another time I blew out a candle and he showed me the right way to blow it out so I wouldn't get wax everywhere, but I hadn't gotten wax anywhere and it was my candle in my flat!

Writing this out it all sounds petty, but there have been other things, like deliberately misunderstanding questions I'm asking and communication that goes round in circles and never getting a straight answer so giving up, but not really realising what has happened until later, if you know what I mean. And going quiet when we're together. Once it was lashing rain and he took the umbrella from me and held it up but only over his head so I got soaked. When I said it to him he put it over both our heads for about a minute and then back over his own head so I was soaked again. I mean, he held it right down over his own head so that it was almost touching his head and completely away from me, like I wasn't even there. He also seemed annoyed at me but I hadn't done anything wrong.
There are other things. He compares me to his ex sometimes and it's always in my favour but it always makes me feel a bit crap. He never gives me compliments and it's always our behaviour he's comparing. She was very pretty and he has told me a few times she was a beautiful woman but she was too needy. He also broke up with her suddenly because she was sick and needed a doctor and he stayed out at a party all night and she was by herself and got angry at him when he came home. So he just ended it. He's told me this story a few times and he always says he paid all the mortgage and bills and he let her move in because she had nowhere else to live. It's as if he thinks she shouldn't have ever gotten annoyed at him because of that. He also said he thinks she might have cheated on him because she accused him of cheating and he said she was projecting.
This all sounds so stupid. It's just that i don't know if I'm too sensitive and jealous of the way he talks about his ex.

There have been a few other things and I'm trying to separate it all out but I'd just like to know what people think and if I'm just reading too much into things and I'm too embarrassed to ask anyone.I'd really appreciate any advice or opinions. Thank you.

OP posts:
Louise91417 · 29/11/2019 08:22

When i started reading i thought ocd but on reading further i think he is already starting to control you and attempt to chip away your confidence...get out now..this behaviour will only get worse..

jamaisjedors · 29/11/2019 08:27

It's not petty.

Well done for spotting these problems already.

I didn't, and stayed for 23 years (2 kids).

I ended up with my self esteem at rock bottom because I was always on eggshells and never good enough for exH.

And the umbrella thing was something he did too!!!

He is selfish and controlling and this will NOT get better.

I felt that I was the one with a problem, that I didnt do things "properly", wasn't rigorous enough, was a bit sloppy, and that exh just had healthy self esteem and boundaries.

Turns out (after a dramatic turn of events when I finally got it together to leave him) HE is the one who has a problem and has obsessive compulsive personality disorder plus is a control freak (psychiatrist's report).

That thing where he said "give me a cuddle" once he'd finished telling you off gave me the shivers, classic "put you down" the "comfort you" behaviour.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 29/11/2019 08:28

@Louise91417 being a clean freak isn't the same as having OCD

MarianaMoatedGrange · 29/11/2019 08:33

RUN! this will only get worse. He'll destroy you. The umbrella thing alone shows he wants you to feel lesser. Please don't see him again.

sableandI · 29/11/2019 08:34

He sounds like my ex. It will only get worse. Sorry but you have to leave him. He is controlling and manipulating. Split personality. You will never be able to do anything right and he will always make you feel on edge. Follow your gut x

Purplewithred · 29/11/2019 08:37

Well done for putting the pieces together. Lots of little subtle, gaslighting, controlling put downs. You have good spider senses. Dump him and move on.

Originallymeonly · 29/11/2019 08:37

Listen to your gut feeling, you were sensitive enough to it to post on here, your gut is right! Red red flags as far as the eye can see! The ex being "needy", I expect she just said she needed to be treated like a human being!
You can't change him, but you can change your mind. "this isn't working for me, bye"

Livpool · 29/11/2019 08:38

He sounds awful and very controlling. I'd end things if I were you. He will chip away at your confidence

libbynaughtz26 · 29/11/2019 08:41

He sounds really weird!

MzHz · 29/11/2019 08:43

Oh my fucking god! You have to even ask???

This guy’s a complete fruit loop! Run run run and run some more!

MzHz · 29/11/2019 08:43

What’s that Julia Roberts film? “Sleeping with the Enemy”?

Yeah, that!

Obligatorync · 29/11/2019 08:44

Run, run, run, run, run.

Winterdaysarehere · 29/11/2019 08:48

Hills that way >>>>>>>>
Please don't see him again.
He sounds dangerous.

PinkMonkeyBird · 29/11/2019 08:49

Ugh..he sounds awful. Don't carry on with this 'relationship'. It will only get worse.

HorseradishSnowflake · 29/11/2019 08:49

He is laying the groundwork very effectively to have you totally controlled. You are already walking on eggshells and doubting yourself. Listen to your gut and end it quickly. Do it by phone or text and then cut him off completely. I say this as a DV worker so have years of experience.

HelloYouTwo · 29/11/2019 08:53

Run. Run away now, run away fast.

QueenoftheIceAge · 29/11/2019 08:54

If I had got blood on the loo during my period and not noticed, do you know what my partner would have done? Wiped it and not mentioned it to me. Firstly because he wouldn’t mind, and secondly because he doesn’t try to make me feel shit about myself or put me down.

This man is just not kind to you, and who wants that for the rest of their life? Cut your losses and blow your candles out however you want!

HelloYouTwo · 29/11/2019 08:56

He totally made that blood thing up btw.

How many women have got “a drop of blood” on the toilet handle when they have their period?? Trace of blood in the loo, a smear of blood maybe if things were messy. You’d have notice that though as you’d have had blood on your hands.

He hasn’t a clue about periods and he made that all up for some weird reason of control / making you uncomfortable/ testing your boundaries. He is not a nice man.

RantyAnty · 29/11/2019 08:59

He's batshit.
Run run run

Timetobegood · 29/11/2019 08:59

Yes agree about the blood. It would be quite difficult to get blood on the handle especially with a light period as you describe and, like you say, you would have noticed.

The way he challenged you sounds like a scene from Sleeping with the Enemy as a pp said.

MarianaMoatedGrange · 29/11/2019 08:59

Oh yeah, the blood thing was totally made up.

Kinsters · 29/11/2019 09:00

He sounds totally nuts, break it off with him (easier said than done I know but reading your post the things he does are awful and controlling, plus he's not nice to you).

bibliomania · 29/11/2019 09:01

What all these incidents have in common is you are constantly in the wrong and he is in the right. It's a major power play, and I think at some level he is doing it purposefully. He's checking what you'll tolerate. It's that old thing of the frog in boiling water. The water isn't boiling yet, but he's turning it up bit by bit. Please don't stay. Your life would be hell by the end.

MrsAJ27 · 29/11/2019 09:10

Get out now...this is way to intense for a new relationship and he sounds like an absolute twat.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 29/11/2019 09:10

I agree about the blood thing too. On the toilet seat, ok. On the floor, I guess, maybe, if you're not using a tampon and have quite a heavy period, but not when you're having a light one. On your hand, perhaps, but then surely it'd be a smudge, at worst, on the handle.

What kind of prick would point it out to a woman anyway? You'd just wipe it off, surely?

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