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discovered bf/colleague's other relationship, he has asked me what i want

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roastedfoxscrambledsnake · 16/11/2019 22:17

I made the stupid mistake of being in a relationship with a colleague who I worked closely with (we are both in our 40s , both divorced, same number of DC.) We dated for 18 months I thought quite seriously and kept our relationship secret because it's not allowed at work, until I discovered via another colleague that my supposed bf was in a four year relationship with another more senior colleague (a 60 year old) who was also keeping it quiet for the sake of the work policy.

I confronted my b/f who admitted that he had been in a relationship with the other colleague and was in love with her and obsessed by her and they had, had a rough 18 months where she had briefly returned to her exH and that he had got with me in order to distract himself from that heartbreak. Apparently she is currently going between the two (her ex and her boyfriend at work - my ex.)

I've found the last two months of this discovery and subsequent removal of everything I thought was my reality, pretty rough. What has made it worse is that he has kind of kept the door open by saying that he knows that his relationship with this woman is completely unhealthy and that it has to end. And he knows that it lacks substance and I have depth but that it is like he is addicted to her because she intermittently rejects him and please can I help him get over it. He says he wants us to "stay close," so that when he gets over it he still has me in whatever form I want.

It was especially painful hearing him telling me how he stares at her name on wats app and waits for her to come online and start typing to him and how he sometimes leaves her 16 calls in a row. He says she is a nightmare and a drama queen but that he just cannot kick his obsession and he knows that it's all about her occasional rejection of him which is why he wants her. He adds that he is so grateful he has me as a friend and can now tell me everything and it is a sign that we are such good friends. That he will never lie to me again and he is there for me no matter what.

He and I have had some quite fraught conversations on days when I have been really struggling to come to terms with what has happened. He has been very compassionate and worried about me and gone out of his way to talk. Him being so nice and apologetic only makes me suppress my anger about it all and makes me become quite self destructive (drinking and eating too much.) I keep overthinking and wondering why he wants to be with this woman and not me, and he keeps explaining that it's an addiction and he needs to get over it, that he was really happy with me and I am much better than her, but that now I know, I can't unknow it.

I know deep down that I love my job, I'm good at it and I don't want to move. I am determined to make it work despite the daily torture of having to see him and having to see them together. I have found it so hard to keep remembering how we went from seeing each other and having sex 3-4 times a week and speaking most evenings and mornings, making breakfast and dinner in each others kitchens to this professional relationship where we are supposed to just cross paths in the office.

He has suggested that I give him a list of things he can do to make this all easier for me. I appreciate the gesture but I don't even know what I would put on that list. I crave the emotional intimacy we had before even if it's as friends but then I feel that is desperate and accepting of this situation where I feel I was conned - even though he has been so apologetic. Last month I told him I thought that no contact would work for me, for a while. He got very upset and cried and said that he couldn't do that. He eventually agreed and we tried it, but we work so closely together (about 10-15 work calls and meetings a day) that it was pointless.

What can I sensibly and self-lovingly ask from him to help me get on with this job and make it work?

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DelphiniumBlue · 16/11/2019 22:28

What job do you do where you have to have 10_15 calls a day together and meetings on top of that?
Sorry, this sounds like you're deluding yourself. He's lied to you for 18 months and is now crying and saying he cat not talk to you? But can you please be on standby so he can cry about the other woman?
Have some self respect and tell him to fuck off and not contact you except for work stuff, and then only what's necessary and by email only. Tell him you'll be copying in a colleague/ manager/ HR/ other woman on everything he sends you so it better be above board.
Then start looking for a new job.

BumbleBeee69 · 16/11/2019 23:31

Find your self respect... ditch this vile conceited twat and find happiness and love elsewhere... you now this guy's playing you for a fool.. Flowers

MsRomanoff · 17/11/2019 07:05

OP, you believes you were in a serious relationship with this man. He was also in an on/off relationship with someone else.

He was cheating on you and now using you as his emotional crush whole he carries on this toxic relationship.

Relationships arent allowed at work and you have been sleeping with a man who is in a relationship with a senior member of staff.

What happens, if this all comes out. If she discovers she may lose her bit on the side to you and you are all breaking company policy, what do you think will happen. What if she finds out, but no one else does, do you think this will work out well for you? This 'toxic woman's is just going to walk away from him and wave you both off into the sunset?

The whole time you have been investing emotional energy in a relationship with him, he started to seeing you as a distraction and obsessing and in love with her.

He then wants to keep you dangling for when it's off with her. All these jive things he is doing is to keep you hanging on.

You are in an precarious position. Emotionally and professionally. You need to untangle yourself from this situation that he dragged you into. He has put your career at risk as well as hurting you. And he is trying to guilt you into stating in this situation.

He simply sees you as a crutch while he stays involved with her and this bat shit situation.

PermanentTemporary · 17/11/2019 07:10

You are suffering. 'Being there's for him means putting yourself through pain. You don't have to do that and it's not reasonable to ask you to.

His motivation isn't relevant (from the outside he certainly sounds like an absolute cake-and-eat-it type). YOU are suffering and you matter.

I'm involved in a bit of a dumb situation which I should end but dont want to, so I know it's not easy. But please detach yourself and end it. You will feel better quite quickly.

BlouseAndSkirt · 17/11/2019 07:17

“What can I sensibly and self-lovingly ask from him to help me get on with this job”

Nothing. He is not the person to help you with this . He is dishonest, fucked up, a stalker (16 calls!! Staring at WhatsApp?), AND any so called ‘help’ from him keeps you hooked in with him.

You need to do it for yourself. Do not become what he is with this other woman, ‘addicted’.

And see it as a lucky escape.

I dare say the secrecy of the whole thing has added adrenaline. People do get fired up in adrenaline. Had you been openly sharing your packed lunches in a banal way the drama would be out if it.

Block his number, find your anger, set yourself a series of social events and activities for evenings and weekends and don’t look back.

BlouseAndSkirt · 17/11/2019 07:19

‘being there for him’, being his insurance policy waiting meekly behind holding a box of tissues for him while he throws himself about in this self indulgent drama and fucks someone else . Come on, OP...,,,

smeerf · 17/11/2019 07:27

In an ideal world, HE should be the one looking for a new job. He needs to remove himself from this obsessive situation with the senior colleague which sounds like a bomb waiting to go off in everyone's lives and he'd be doing the right thing by you allowing you to move on. But he sounds much too selfish to entertain that.

So I can't see you have any option other than new job/new department maybe, if you can't stomach a complete move? What are you work policies about relationships? Frowned upon or is there a hard and fast rule you've broken?

Palavah · 17/11/2019 07:29

You've spent and awful lot of this post being concerned about him and what he wants/thinks/feels.

Start focusing on you and what you want (other than him, because his actions have shown he doesn't care about you, and you're not going to have him).

Start looking for a new job and in the meantime trim down contact with him to necessary professional topics during working hours only.

Next time don't get your honey where you get your money.

slipperywhensparticus · 17/11/2019 07:32

He wants you to feel like you need to save him but he is using you

You need to dump him he will try and come after you but stay firm he is bad news

PersonaNonGarter · 17/11/2019 07:39

What a toxic and highly strung situation.

Main thing: there is no way - NO WAY - you and this man can form a successful relationship out of this mess. Even if he changed his mind about the senior woman, you now know and will never feel ‘safe’.

You need to put yourself first and start getting over this without humiliating yourself professionally. Either change jobs or remove any intimacy from your discussions with this man.

Beautiful3 · 17/11/2019 07:44

So he loves another woman but is being rejected by her. He wants her but also for you to hang around for sex/company until she takes him back?!! Where is your self respect??!! Dk not allow yourself to be used like this. Its demoralising. End it now. No one can help him with his obsession. I sincerely hope you see sense.

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/11/2019 07:44

He may get like he is about her with you. He doesn’t sound very stable emotionally. Even so you need to walk away. Ideally you could do with thinking about changing jobs or departments if this is an option.

Tigerty · 17/11/2019 07:48

Ew what a twat of a man. Now you’ve found out you’re the side bit he’s emotionally blackmailing you to stay the side bit. You need the space to get over him. If he doesn’t give you that then you’ll have to seriously think of finding a new job.

Tigerty · 17/11/2019 07:49

Flowers by the way. You’re in this situation through no fault of your own. It’s going to be bumpy for you emotionally in the short term but oodles better long term.

fit4more · 17/11/2019 08:05

You need to protect yourself before somebody betrays you. Either he will or she will. At some point you’re going to lose your job over this. If he’s so obsessed and he thinks it will get her back by making her jealous then he’ll tell her about you. Then it’s game over. What are you doing? Why would you risk your job!?! Get another job and keep it in your pants at your next workplace. You’re all acting like sex obsessed teenagers.

LittleWing80 · 17/11/2019 08:12

He is using you.
That woman is a drama queen and is more senior. What do you think will happen if she finds out about you two? She will have you have you sacked and then.... do you think he will run to your rescue? Take you in/pay your mortgage? He has put you in a very precarious position. Start looking for another job asap. Look after yourself, he won’t.
Good luck x

FinallyHere · 17/11/2019 08:15

please can I help him get over it.

The only sensible answer to this is a good, proper laughter out loud belly laugh.

I absolutely have some insight on how easy it can be to find yourself tangled up in this sort of highly charged situation. The only way out is to cut all ties. As PPs have said, focus on yourself and your job. Look out for a better job, too.

You are not just a prop in his drama. You deserve so much more in your life. Go out and find it. And enjoy.

YouJustDoYou · 17/11/2019 08:19

This piece of shit is LOVING all the attention he is getting. And he knows that it lacks substance and I have depth - yes, that old chestnut of stringing along the ow by putting down the girlfriend whilst making the ow feel what they have is "special" but what he and the gf has is "nothing compared to what we have". Such a load of bullshit. They ALWAYS Use that kind of line to keep you strung along.

Get rid of him. He is keeping you as a backup option. That's all you are to him.

AgentJohnson · 17/11/2019 08:25

I suspect that this is the reason your company frowns upon inter office relationships. Find your self respect and stop the self flagellation by continuing to give this idiot headspace, let alone a shoulder to cry on.

Back away!

CupoTeap · 17/11/2019 08:29

What would you tell a friend to do?

daisychain01 · 17/11/2019 08:37

How can you be in 10-15 meetings a day with this person?

I can't invest more than the time it took to read your OP when that alone makes no sense. Or the fact he's been conducting an affair with someone for 4 years and now you for 18 months.

I'd love to know how much work gets done round there. Zero by the sound of it.

daisychain01 · 17/11/2019 08:40

I know deep down that I love my job, I'm good at it and I don't want to move.

Good at it! Ha, I'd love to know what your manager's opinion is of your work performance when you're having "fraught" conversations in the office when you should be doing what you're paid for.

Mix56 · 17/11/2019 08:53

This is all going to go massively wrong
You need to accept it is over, he cannot run to you on any level for support. He has been a gigolo to both you & the senior woman, he is playing you as 2nd best to fall back on, has already told you he prefers other woman. You are not responsible for his emotional wellbeing. he has been & is lying to you all along
Where is your self respect?
You need to stop everything, ask to move to another position/location ? &/or look for another job fast.
He will not be there for you when your are sacked.

billandbenflowerpotmen1 · 17/11/2019 09:01

He has suggested that I give him a list of things he can do to make this all easier for me
Tell him to resign

PaterPower · 17/11/2019 09:09

Change job. It should be him doing that but, as PP said, I doubt he’s got the integrity to so it’ll have to be you that moves.

Then block him completely.

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