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Engagement...

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SadSam13 · 14/11/2019 21:21

So, we’ve been engaged around 18 months now.

I was literally the happiest I’ve ever been, but it only lasted a matter of weeks as I found out he’d been looking at an ex daily on Facebook. That’s a whole other cab of worms though, so please don’t focus on that.

The last 18 months have been a battle and a half, I’ve wanted to walk time after time.

My partner has become ungrateful, his two children are just as selfish and wrapped up in themselves.

I thought I loved my parter. I kept giving and giving, hoping it would change. I kept saying I wasn’t a doormat.

I want kids, he already had two. Again, a whole other can of worms. So please, no comments on that.

Despite all of this, I give it my all. I deal with the selfish ungrateful behaviour. I have regular little breakdowns where I just quit. I can’t hack it. I’m only human.

His ex is a living nightmare. An actual pathological liar. That’s a whole other case full of cans of worms.

However last night I found out my partner asked me to marry him literally 100 yards from where he asked his ex to marry him!!

I’m absolutely heart broken, totally devastated. After everything, I just feel like what little shred of happiness I had tucked away in my heart, he just basically took a big dump all over it.

He says I’m ridiculous, that I’m upset over nothing.

How could he do that though!? Our whole relationship I’ve wanted to be different. I didn’t want to be a carbon copy. Just another.

Am I ridiculous to be so upset? I feel so empty and lost.

Why couldn’t he have just made it special and specific to us? Why couldn’t he have thought about what things mean to me?

He could have proposed anywhere in the world, we travel six or seven times a year.... so why 100 yards, the next street over from where he asked her??

OP posts:
SadSamuel · 15/11/2019 09:13

Imagine people could just forget the stuff I asked them to, not because I am stupid, blind or lost amongst the trees.... I already know it’s a load of shite!! I already know the whole relationship is an entire mess, but I am wondering if I really am ridiculous for being upset about the location of the proposal. Because there wasn’t much to cling to. It was all special, it was all lovely, he was the man of my dreams, but the last 18 months it went to shit. I wasn’t hoping for a proposal to fix anything, it was PERFECT before. It went downhill a matter of weeks after that, I wrote that in my original post. He’s not hung up on any exes. Of course he speaks to the mother of his children.

The top and bottom of it is, a proposal should be special. It was the most magical moment of my life. And now I feel like it’s been ruined to think of him doing the same thing 100 yards down the road. It’s not like it’s a popular place, or some where everyone goes. It was supposed to be special to us. Clearly not, because he’d literally been there, done that before. If there’s one thing I don’t want in life, it’s that.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 15/11/2019 09:16

@SadSamuel was it your special place?

If it felt special to you then it doesn't matter what happened in that same spot before.

You were happy in that moment so it doesn't matter. He asked you to marry him and you wanted to so I don't think the location is important.

(But the fact he changed as soon as he's 'trapped' you tells you everything)

Goldenchildsmum · 15/11/2019 09:17

The top and bottom of it is, a proposal should be special.

Yes

If the relationship is special

Your relationship is toxic and abusive

Stop focusing on the wrong thing

Get rid of this man and move on

ShatnersWig · 15/11/2019 09:18

SadSam Seriously, I couldn't give a shit about the proposal. A proposal is asking a question. It's how you're treated in day-to-day life that matters.

cecilyrose · 15/11/2019 09:19

Op has just admitted that the whole relationship is an entire mess & is still banging on about the 'proposal' 🤷‍♀️

I'm out. Not going to bother wasting my time replying to such a sorry state of affairs when she clearly doesn't listen.

Good luck OP, because you are going to bloody need it!!!!!

timeisnotaline · 15/11/2019 09:20

I think most people understand how the proposal update makes it less special. But, if someone said my partner beats me and won’t have kids with me and won’t do anything to help me and looks at ohther women and treats me like shit and the other day we went to a wedding and we were going to be colour coordinated but he decided to wear a blue tie instead of the burgundy one that went with my dress, this really upset me! Forget the rest of the stuff I said about him, aibu to be upset he couldn’t wear the tie I asked him to?!! Then would you think the tie is a big deal?
Please tell me you are going to end the engagement and relationship.

X0X0 · 15/11/2019 09:23

The top and bottom of it is, a proposal should be special. It was the most magical moment of my life

No, every day you get up and your best friend is there, that's the most magical day of your life, every day when they do the little things for you, make you a lemsip when youre under the weather, go that little bit extra for you, purely because they want to make you happy, that's the most magical moment of your life, when they look at you with love in their eyes, when you haven't washed for a couple of days and youre feeling fat, that's the magical moment (**disclaimer all relationships have ups and downs, but so long as there many more ups than downs - excluding the red flag stuff of course - these are what you look for )

him treating you like a skivvy is not ok if he proposes on top of the Eiffel tower with a sky writer and champagne does not make it a magical moment if the rest is rotten

why are you settling for him, he doesn't want children, he's mean, his children treat you badly....? what are you getting out of this?

OllyBJolly · 15/11/2019 09:25

I’m just asking if others think I’m ridiculous for being upset he asked me 100 yards from where he asked his ex?

Yes, totally ridiculous. There are far bigger issues here (that you don't want comment on) that scream out that this is not a healthy relationship.

SadSamuel · 15/11/2019 09:31

Just one last comment before I leave this site for good, you are a horrible person @cecilyrose - I am genuinely hurt by everything right now, my life is a total mess, I am at a cross roads and don’t know what to do because the first 18 months were amazing!! But you are just an out right bitch!! Get over yourself. I came here looking for help and advice. Not a nasty piece of work like you.

Thank you for the ladies who focussed on what I was asking and trying to be practical in their approach. Yes I know it’s a crap situation all round, but I can’t help being upset over it.

Goodbye mumsnet.

Glad I didn’t come here suicidal or anything!!

#ItCostsNothingToBeNice

cecilyrose · 15/11/2019 09:36

OP I'm sorry you took what I said so wrong.
But I will again state that you need to help yourself before you can expect others to help you.
And if you was my friend in real life, I'm afraid what I said here I would say to your face as sometimes it needs to be said.
You can't expect to drain others looking for advice & sympathy when you are so deluded.

The truth hurts. Yes I get that. Take care of yourself & I hope you find that self respect Thanks

X0X0 · 15/11/2019 09:53

am at a cross roads and don’t know what to do because the first 18 months were amazing

But its not been amazing for the last 18 months has it?

So, we’ve been engaged around 18 months now.

I was literally the happiest I’ve ever been, but it only lasted a matter of weeks as I found out he’d been looking at an ex daily on Facebook. That’s a whole other cab of worms though, so please don’t focus on that.

The last 18 months have been a battle and a half, I’ve wanted to walk time after time.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 15/11/2019 09:55

Genuine question @SadSamuel - if the first 18 months were great and then he hit you, would you stay?

If not, why allow the emotional pain if you wouldn't allow the physical?

Bruises heal, but it takes a lot longer for your confidence or trust or happiness to be restored.

ChuckleBuckles · 15/11/2019 09:55

I think your anger is misdirected OP, and cecilyrose has hit a nerve for you by stating a fairly truthful observation based on what details you have provided here. Why even mention the other cans of worms if you don't want comment on it? Just state that he proposed in the same spot as he proposed to someone else and you feel that it spoilt the occasion a bit. You are lashing out at the wrong person here, save your anger for the man mistreating you not the commenter who notices it. I will just sit here and wait for the delete notice.

cecilyrose · 15/11/2019 10:32

OP you sound very young. From the facts you've given I.e no children & no real ties to this man who drags you down .... you could easily walk away from all of this drama .... which would leave you free to pursue maybe a beautiful relationship with someone else who truly deserves you. You sound very caring & like you have a lot to give. Why are you 'settling' for this ?

Some of us women on here have a lot of life experience, but by your spitting your dummy out last angry reply to myself you are just screaming victim when given the reality, you aren't a victim & you have the opportunity to save yourself from this possible lifetime of misery here. I was in your shoes once, I've been there many times infact, I decided to stay single for many years to focus on myself & rebuilding my shattered self confidence & self worth. 2 years ago I met that man, the man that restored my faith in relationships. If my past hadn't happened It wouldn't have opened my eyes as to what real love & what a real relationship / partnership is like though I guess.

Don't be the young woman I was years ago. I see how you feel with how you've written.

And as horrible & nerve hitting as my replies were, I wish someone had given me that reality kick up the arse to stop me wasting 7 years of my life with a partner who made me feel just the way yours does to you.

These bad relationships that chip away at you piece by piece stay with you for the rest of your life. It manifests in doubting yourself, lowering your confidence & so on.

It's doubtful that you will give anything I've stated any consideration, but I hope at the very least that I've planted a seed of you thinking that there could be better things out there for you in regards to relationships Thanks

AFistfulofDolores1 · 15/11/2019 10:33

I think it's probably simpler for you to storm out of Mumsnet rather than leave your partner, OP. So if you need to do that first, then that's what you need to do.

Maybe one day you'll be able to take the entire relationship you have with your partner in, instead of forcibly isolating it into separate issues so that you avoid the horror of what is actually there.

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Chattybum · 15/11/2019 10:45

I think you are focussing all your hurt and upset about everything else into this one event.

Ask yourself, would you care that much about the proposal issue if everything in your relationship was going perfectly?

Sofast · 15/11/2019 10:52

Even without all the other stuff I personally think you're being ridiculous about the proposal, why do people need such a fuss made

But you shouldn't be with this man at all, you're not right for each other

bullyingadvice2017 · 15/11/2019 11:24

The proposal spot would not bother me at all.

The other stuff sounds grim tho. And that is the stuff that will be the daily reality of life with him.

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