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How to approach this with dp

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Flamingnora22 · 14/11/2019 11:55

Bit of background, just gone on maternity leave, baby due in a few weeks, dp has 2 children from previous and one child’s birthday is just after Xmas. Also moved house 2 months ago.

My partner is having a right ole flap about affording Xmas, we owe some money out already £200) and he has written a short but expensive list of presents he wants us to get for his dc. I will just add I want to get the new baby a couple of bits as I’d feel really mean although I know the baby won’t know it’s Xmas - nothing major maybe spend £15 and a first Xmas bauble.

My partner is asking me to take out store cards/loans/apply for credit cards to see us through the Xmas period (he has bad credit) and I really do not want to. Initially I thought it was a good idea but then it dawned on me that it would be me paying this back out of my already reduced income and I don’t really see it’s fair. It’s like his thought process stops at actually obtaining the gifts and paying back is someone else’s problem as it’s not in his name, he hasn’t said this but this is how it comes across. I have been in a bad place debt wise and this year I have knuckled down and paid the majority off and I probably owe about £300-£350 on catalogues (down from about £1700 and credit card debt and other things) and I really don’t want to rack up more debt for the sake of Xmas.

I understand that my dp wants to give the kids an amazing Xmas (as do I) but I just really don’t see it’s feasible with our incomes and circumstances at the minute in time. He works full time and is paying his own debts which doesn’t leave us with a massive amount left over, on top of owing the £200 and then to buy Xmas presents.

I tried approaching it by saying why don’t we give dc1 (7) £x amount For Xmas and then on his birthday £x amount so he can put it towards or buy one of the most expensive items on the list and then it just spreads it a bit for us and takes the pressure off and I was met with a resounding no.

I feel like just saying well you sort it out then and don’t buy anything until the last minute but don’t come crying to me when you’ve got fuck all for them coz you’ve been stalling hoping a bloody lotto win will come in. I wouldn’t actually say it but this is how the tension is at the minute and last thing we need as a couple is to start falling out.

I’ve put A few times in my basket on groupon for dc2 (2) which should be enough for him and I’ve offered to buy some footy boots and a activity table for the kids off my catalogue (£80) and I think that’s me being sensible and reasonable.

Anyone have any ideas on how I can approach this? I’ve been thinking Poundland for Lego bits but I know for a fact my dp won’t approve because it’s not the Lego brand. I just feel like I can’t win.

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prawnsword · 14/11/2019 14:41

He needs to be buying his children’s presents. Don’t you do it, he can’t seriously be expecting you to buy them & wrap them for him ? So you pay for them, but them, wrap them & he just takes the credit ?

Love you need to step back & make him step up for his kids.

if you split up you will likely fade from these kids’ lives. Do they have 50/50 custody ?

I bet your do the food shopping & cooking at Xmas ? No wonder Xmas is a lovely celebration day for him! He doesn’t actually have to do or worry about anything !

prawnsword · 14/11/2019 14:44

Your husband had no financial logic love.

He thinks it is ok to miss a month’s payment ? That’s the roof over your head.

He is robbing Peter to pay Paul

You buy a present for each of the kids from you & make him sort out the rest.

HundredMilesAnHour · 14/11/2019 14:45

OP you seem to be doing everything? You even take his bank card to do the shopping as his pretty miserly contribution to the household. Why can't he do the shopping since you do everything else? What on earth attracted you to this manchild? You're enabling him. I understand why but is this really what you want for the rest of your life? Is this the role model you want your child to have? All I can think is that he must have a golden cock as he seems to bring nothing else to the table.

Flamingnora22 · 14/11/2019 14:45

@prawnsword

It’s just like every other day of the year ha ha!
No he will be cooking but I will go and get the food not sure who will be actually paying for it as of yet. I have started buying little bits to put in the freezer so we always have some party food in and little picky bits. I just see it as if I chip away each week it’s not a massive expense all in one go. I knew myself that this Xmas was going to be stressful as he is useless with money, I’m not great but I’m better than him and I knew full well he wouldn’t of had anything in place but in the same breath it’s been hard saving for stuff we needed for the baby never mind Xmas and birthdays

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RandomMess · 14/11/2019 14:46

I think £100 each at this age is more than sufficient tbh!!!

£350 is ridiculous especially when they will receive gifts from another parent....

So potential £500 plus between parents per child?

Flamingnora22 · 14/11/2019 14:48

I won’t lie hundred he is pretty useless and I do feel taken for granted but it’s not always been this way but has been for a while.

I guess it boils down to me not trusting him to get something done correctly and I know if I do it, I’ll only have to do it once. I do the running around as he would be at work when I’m doing the shop etc with me being on mat leave. I have enabled him you are spot on there and I’ve made a rod for my own back which I’m desperately trying to remove.

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Flamingnora22 · 14/11/2019 14:48

No random, £200 for the younger and then £350 for the elder.

That’s what I have worked out ball park figures from the lists

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RandomMess · 14/11/2019 14:52

Plus what their Mum will spend....

Hence easily £500 for the eldest!!!

Flamingnora22 · 14/11/2019 15:01

Sorry thought you mean from just us

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Annasgirl · 14/11/2019 15:04

I'm sorry, OP, are you saying that you are on maternity leave with a child with a man who had a child of less than 1 year old when you met him? When did he move in with you? Could you untangle yourself from him as I do not believe he is going to be worth the effort when you have your child.

And I am aghast at spending so much money on the children (or anyone else) at Christmas. Really please do not get into debt to pay for Christmas presents. Your DP knew Christmas was coming (it happens same time every year) so he should have saved for this spend. If he has not, tough, leave him to it. Also, I cannot believe he would spend that and then their mother would also spend money on them - would he not be better off trying to save for their future?

Flamingnora22 · 14/11/2019 15:06

Well this is just it. Going to be having a chat when he gets home because it can’t carry on. I’m actually fuming I’ve let it get this far.

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SleepingStandingUp · 14/11/2019 15:50

Also a 7 yo doesn't need a phone, and def not an expensive one. Who will be monitoring his use of it? If its about being a el to call Daddy then he needs a really cheap basic one that makes calls and is pay as you go.

Flamingnora22 · 14/11/2019 16:29

IMO a table can do, of the kindle fire variety as it will be used for YouTube watching a few games and if he wants to video call there’s Skype and other platforms to use to do this

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VeryQuaintIrene · 14/11/2019 18:52

He seems really immature.

Bellaxx8 · 14/11/2019 23:28

How did it go?

willowmelangell · 16/11/2019 14:15

Can he get a 2nd job? Xmas work, evenings?

Countryescape · 16/11/2019 18:53

No. They are his children, he sorts their presents. Do not get into debt for him!!

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