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Relationship between DSD2, me, her mum and her mum's boyfriend

33 replies

Candlesandrust · 28/10/2019 10:51

This could be a long post so thank you for reading, I’ll try to keep it brief but there’s quite a lot of background to cover to make it relevant.

DH and I got together about a year after he separated from his wife. It was a mutual separation, no others involved . The two children (both girls), then primary school age, were a top consideration (quite rightly) and stayed with their dad around 40% of the time, which included EOW. Mum was and still is resident parent but they have regular and happy visits to dad.

I didn’t meet the children for over a year and when I did it was very informal and friendly, not pushy. I NEVER tried to be anything other than dad’s girlfriend, I got on well with the children, particularly the older one, and we now have a sort of friendly auntie type of relationship where they occasionally confide in me, have a bit of a moan, tell me about school, that sort of thing. Nothing to cause problems and if there were I would highlight this to their dad immediately. I am extremely fond of my step daughters, it’s not been the easiest of paths, but they are now 18 and 16 and I’m now married to their dad. We’ve rocked along nicely for 10 years.

I remember vividly DH’s ex having several episodes of anger and really nasty abuse at the start of our relationship (mostly aimed at DH) which I stayed out of. She felt he’d moved on too quickly and she hadn’t. She directed some of this at me, I read horrible emails (which he showed me), she posted on social media how I was pushy and trying to be mum (totally untrue). All sorts of grief which angered me, but I didn’t say anything to her and tried to tell DH it would pass. She held up the divorce for years (because she could).

She’s on Mumsnet and I know it’s her (there’s no doubt whatsoever), even her user name gives her away. It’s interesting that she still holds a bit of a gripe about me and DH and has the occasional dig.

I’m getting to the reason for my post. DSD2 has been telling us about mum’s new boyfriend recently. She hates him, she says he tries to be her dad, tries to tell her off all the time. He’s moving into their house and she wants to move out. I take some of this with a pinch of salt. It’s not an easy dynamic being a step parent, especially to a 16 year old girl. But so much of what she’s saying is the exact same as I was accused of by her mum in the early days. Not to overstep my boundaries, not to try to be mum, to allow time for DSD’s to be alone with their dad. I find it astonishing that she’s allowing her boyfriend to do exactly all of these things?

In some ways I think it’s Karma biting her on the bum, but that’s not helpful considering how unhappy DSD2 is. Her dad and I have discussed this but he doesn’t think it would be such a good move for her to move in with us in her GCSE year. All of the upheaval, the inevitable fighting between her mum and dad as mum would not be happy at all. I’d be happy for DSD2 to move in, it’s not that, I just want the best for her. What do you think?

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EKGEMS · 28/10/2019 11:01

I think at 16 she's capable of making the choice herself but it's got to be a decision her father wants to make if you know what I mean. Let her know even if she doesn't move out away from her mother she's always got a place with you and your husband to vent and chill

Duchessgummybuns · 28/10/2019 11:02

The only advice I can think of is to keep well out of it. It’s good that your step daughter has confided in you but if she’s adamant she wants to move in with you and her Dad that’s for him to arrange with her mother.

FreeBedForFlys · 28/10/2019 11:10

If she wants to move in then let DH organise it. You sound lovely. The ex sounds awful. I expect she’s reading by now so YES YOU! YOU SOUND HORRIBLE!

😁

AmIThough · 28/10/2019 11:27

Hi OP's ExW.

Your daughter doesn't like your boyfriend and is moving in with her dad and step mom.

Don't give them grief for it because it's her choice. 👍🏻

AmIThough · 28/10/2019 11:27

Obviously not OP's ExW, OP's DH's ExW Grin

Candlesandrust · 28/10/2019 11:31

Thanks, I am staying out of it as much as I can. I'm here to support DSD if she wants me to but it's up to her dad and mum to sort out really. I just wondered what you thought?

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AnneLovesGilbert · 28/10/2019 11:33

Do you live close to her school? While a move during GCSEs isn’t ideal, it’s better than living in an unhappy home with a mum who prioritised her new shag over you and a random man. If she’s settled in your home for the time she’s with you and she wants to move then I’d have her.

billy1966 · 28/10/2019 11:34

Be supportive of step daughter, but stay out of it. 👍

Candlesandrust · 28/10/2019 11:36

Interesting how many say stay out of it. I am doing but both DSD2 and DH want me involved. It's my home too and it affects me too. I have no problem with DSD2 moving in at all and I want her to have a safe and happy place. Why all of the stay out of it?

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Candlesandrust · 28/10/2019 11:37

It wouldn't mean a change of school. We live a short bus ride from her school. Mum lives in walking distance so it would mean getting up a bit earlier that's all.

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ChaosisntapitChaosisaladder19 · 28/10/2019 11:41

I think you got a hidden agenda here you know shes on mn and you post a goady post in order to get an reaction from her. Sometimes 16 year olds are a nightmare and the thought of their dm starting a new relationship can be hard far more easier when they are a younger there could be many factors.

AmIThough · 28/10/2019 11:41

They're saying stay out of it because you're a step parent, but to be honest your DH doesn't even really need to have the conversation with ExW, because DSD is old enough to have the conversation. Whether she wants to do that face to face or over the phone is up to her.

Allow her to move in, be warm and welcoming, just don't voice any opinions to ExW!

Candlesandrust · 28/10/2019 12:47

If it was a goady post I wouldn't have changed my name, and quite a few of the actual facts. Sorry to disappoint.

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Candlesandrust · 28/10/2019 12:49

Do step parents not get a say of what goes on in their own home then?

I've said DSD2 is more than welcome to come here. She's a lovely girl and I'd be happy to have her here. Its her home too. But I have every right to have an opinion and for it to be heard, as it's also my home too.

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mankyfourthtoe · 28/10/2019 12:52

You're happy for her to move in, if asked by dh I'd tell him that, and I'd say the same to dsd, but that she's 16 and it's up to them to sort.
Yes it's her gcse year and I'd ask would it be more disruptive to move house and upset dm or to put up with sdad.

GrumpyHoonMain · 28/10/2019 12:59

Kids do get more upset when their resident parent gets into a new relationship, and I would bet if the new DP is telling her off then she likely deserves it. I would recommend staying out of it unless you know for a fact that this new guy is bad news because the second she stays with you, she’ll probably shit talk you to her mum too.

Candlesandrust · 28/10/2019 13:05

She probably does deserve to be told off on occasion, she's 16 and full of hormones and can be difficult. I've said that in my opening post and I expect she's said things about me to her mum.

I'm not interfering AT ALL. I've supported DH but ultimately he'll make the final decision. She's 16 and not an adult. If she had her way currently she'd move in with us tomorrow. We're trying to offer caution and not cause any unnecessary upset for her.

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Lllot5 · 28/10/2019 13:11

I think all you can do is tell your DH if it comes to it she’s welcome to move in. Other than that leave it up to them.

itsmecathycomehome · 28/10/2019 13:14

Beyond making it clear to your dh that you would be supportive if she moved in with you, stay out of it.

She is old enough to decide where she wants to live, and tell both of her parents herself.

If she wants help to tell her mum, then that help should come from her dad.

If you talk to her about it, or about how much you would like her to move in, or sympathise with her current home situation, or criticise her mum's new partner, you will be - or will be seen to be - unduly influencing her.

Apart from anything else, you really don't have all the facts and she wouldn't be the first teenager to overreact to a telling off, object to a new living situation that takes some getting used to, or play two parents off against each other.

At the moment she wants nothing more than the satisfaction of punishing her mum by flouncing our, and on some level I think you might quite like the idea of that too.

FunOnTheBeach20 · 28/10/2019 13:17

I’m a SM, you need to step back. DSD is 16 and capable of speaking her mind. Let your DH and DSD’s DM sort it.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 28/10/2019 13:18

I dunno; there's something very unpleasant about a 16 year old girl feeling intimidated by a grown man in her own home. I think I'd be happy to encourage her to move.

LemonTT · 28/10/2019 13:28

Other than confirming that you are happy for her to move in, what further say do you want to have?

ChaosisntapitChaosisaladder19 · 28/10/2019 13:38

Its goady in the sense you mentioned the mum in on mn. Theres no reason to add that information in unless you want her to see this a bite.

FunOnTheBeach20 · 28/10/2019 13:43

Its my home too and it affects me too. I have no problem with DSD2 moving in at all and I want her to have a safe and happy place.

If you’re happy for her to live with you it really doesn’t effect you either way?

Wherearemymarbles · 28/10/2019 13:45

As its your home you can say if you are happy for her to stay.

I think its upto dsd to talk to her mum and then dh. If you get involved it will be like a to rag to a bull