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Exhausted by how bitchy and judgemental my mother is

35 replies

Rubbishtimeofnighttobeup · 07/10/2019 22:06

Just that, really. It's not the only problem in our relationship (she's also controlling, although that's another story) but it's the constant nastiness, almost exclusively about other women, that wears me out.

Sometimes it seems as though she can hardly open her mouth without sneering at or damning someone. She's constantly "shocked" (read: crowing triumphantly) over having caught another woman doing something that she wouldn't do, e.g:

  • using a buggy for a three year-old as a one-off on a long day out in the city;
  • occasional dummy use in toddlers;
  • breastfeeding beyond six months;
  • letting a small child sleep in your bed after a nightmare;
  • sending a four year-old to preschool for a whole day rather than half days;
  • using a nursery (which apparently is the same as abandoning your child in an orphanage):
  • letting a sensible ten year-old walk a short distance to the shops;
  • having a "sallow" and "unattractive" three year-old DS;
  • having a DD with long hair at an age that my mother has arbitrarily decided is too young for long hair;
  • having more than two children:
  • being "matronly";
  • being "tarty";
  • being "common";
  • being "pretentious";
  • putting on a few pounds ("that's her life ruined");
  • being "ageingly" thin, etc etc.

It probably doesn't sound like much but I've had over thirty years of her inability to say anything positive about ninety per cent of the people she meets or sees on TV (ninety-nine per cent of the women). The other day, she bumped into the daughter of a former friend of hers whom she hadn't seen in years. The young woman in question has four gorgeous kids and has managed to gain a qualification to work in her dream career in the meantime, but my own mother's comment to me afterwards was a smug "She looks scrawny. That family always did have weight issues". Her comment on another old friend's daughter - who was pushing her new baby in a pram - was "well, she's not as glamorous as her Facebook photo, is she?". Of course, she's always gone on about how bitchy and untrustworthy other women are, despite being phenomenally two-faced herself.

Honestly, I keep telling myself "grey rock" and "you don't have to like someone to love them", but sometimes it's bloody hard to keep a lid on my feelings. She's only in her early 60s and it's not a recent change - she's always been like this.

Apologies for the long rant!

OP posts:
MsTSwift · 07/10/2019 22:10

She sounds like the human equivalent of the daily mail. Bad luck op.

Rubbishtimeofnighttobeup · 07/10/2019 22:23

Thank you. And yes, she was a Mail reader for decades!

OP posts:
JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 07/10/2019 22:31

I had to click on this thread to be sure I hadn’t written it myself and forgotten!

My mums the same, OP and she’s getting worse since she retired. I think the surplus of free time is leaving her with nothing to do but gossip and bitch. It’s horrible. I hate going to see her now.

Rubbishtimeofnighttobeup · 07/10/2019 22:36

I'm sorry, JoxerGoesToStuttgart. It's rubbish, isn't it?

OP posts:
EatDessertFirst · 07/10/2019 22:38

My mother is like this too. I pull her up on her rascist bullshit but ignore the rest ('look at the state of that *random person') of her shit as I don't have brain space for it. I think its sad that her world view is so narrow she has nothing better to do.

GameofPhones · 07/10/2019 22:42

Ditto my older sister, also a Daily Fail reader. How do they get like this?

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 07/10/2019 22:44

It is. I’ve hated it for years but only recently realised I can choose not to be around it. I still feel guilt about not seeing her as much though! Even though our visits aren’t enjoyable at all. I’ve never enjoyed my mums company. She makes me squirm with discomfort and yet I still feel I should go and see her.

firelightbright · 07/10/2019 22:47

But surely no one is forcing you to have her in your life?

novasglowx · 07/10/2019 22:47

I clicked on this thinking "wow, it's not just me". Constantly passing judgement. Passive aggressive comments. Martyr complex. Bitches about everyone but also to everyone who'll listen. Can't tell her anything otherwise she'll repeat it. Loves to play the victim. Can't see the damage she's done. Fucking exhausting.

MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 07/10/2019 22:50

I have a friend like this. I’ve known her for years and she’s always been the same. Every conversation involves gossiping about someone else. I try to be vague and not join in. I’d be mortified if someone overheard us and thought I was the same.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 07/10/2019 22:50

Constantly passing judgement. Passive aggressive comments. Martyr complex. Bitches about everyone but also to everyone who'll listen. Can't tell her anything otherwise she'll repeat it. Loves to play the victim. Can't see the damage she's done. Fucking exhausting.

You must be my sister! That is my mum to a tee!

KioreWahine · 07/10/2019 22:53

My father does this. Hypercritical and judgemental about everyone, particularly the appearance and weight of women. He has always been very overweight.

When I visit I am now amazed I survived my childhood. I emigrated. Not cos of him, but the distance is an added bonus.

funnylittlefloozie · 07/10/2019 22:53

No, firelight, noone is FORCING anyone to have their own mother in their life, but it may come as a surprise to you to learn that many people are quite attached to their mothers, even when they hate their behaviour. Thats why this behaviour is exasperating and upsetting.

Supersimkin2 · 07/10/2019 22:55

Have you ever tried howling back in exasperation?

novasglowx · 07/10/2019 22:56

@JoxerGoesToStuttgart I have two sisters, wondering if I've been outed!

Solidarity sister Grin

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 07/10/2019 23:00

Grin nova! Ahh I’ve just the one.

RaininSummer · 07/10/2019 23:11

This is my mum too now. I have to brace myself for it each weekend. Such a shame. I wonder if it us because she doesn't do much anymore, reads the daily mail and hates being old.

KUGA · 07/10/2019 23:20

WOW not buying the daily mail again.
Feel violated.

GameofPhones · 07/10/2019 23:23

MsAdora why do you keep her as a friend?

Nillynally · 07/10/2019 23:24

Are you my long lost sister?!

WatchingTheMoon · 07/10/2019 23:25

My mum's the same, my dad too for that matter. Everyone is fat, chavvy, stupid, ugly, up themselves etc. They have no friends and hate everyone and everything. It's exhausting.

lexiepuppy · 08/10/2019 08:21

Sounds like my ex narcissistic MIL. She always slagged people off left, right and centre..She would also slate my hair, weight, face, clothes and my ex would never defend me.
Yet if you met her face to face, she would portray this spiritual, kind, old lady routine.
But she is she is a festering mass of cluster b personality disorders.
They are soul sucking, exhaustion inducing , parasites of humanity.
Whichever factory is producing them, it needs closing down!Flowers

amiapropermum · 08/10/2019 08:30

I have a cousin like this. We recently had a parting of ways and haven't spoken in months. I find people like this expect to come before everyone else (even my children!) but are really unreliable friends.

headinhands · 08/10/2019 08:31

She doesn't sound happy. My dad's always been like this. He'll moan about people on the tv, neighbours. He once spent an afternoon bitching about me to my sister because I'd visited him and told him about the diy I was doing. She told me and I called him out 'why are you being horrible about me talking about what I've been doing? You want me to sit in silence? He was speechlessness. 😂

RoseQuartzGlow · 08/10/2019 09:21

My mother is like this unfortunately. You are not alone.

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