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Should I take him back?

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Gigimum · 26/09/2019 07:14

Husband told me Sunday he had been seeing someone else. We have 2 kids and I asked him to stay and not split up our family. He said no. Things hadn't been good with us for a long time and we had both stopped trying. We spoke at length on Monday and opened up to each other more than we have done in years. After the talk he said he realised he was making a mistake and wanted us to try again and work on things, to be honest we have never tried to resolve our issues and both buried our heads in the sand for a long time. He has been very honest with me about the OW and their relationship which has been hard to hear and has finished it with her, I asked for proof he has and got that. We have both agreed for things to go forward we need to work at things and have given ourselves a timeline to say if it doesn't work out we will both walk away. We've been together nearly 25 years and to throw it away feels wrong without trying. I don't know if I'm doing the right thing, I want my family to stay together, but can I forgive his betrayal. I don't want him to think I am weak and that I would forgive anything that he does. My head is all over the place. Am I being naive and stupid that it could work out now? He said this is the only time he has cheated but by me taking him back would he think she's let me off once, I can do it again. I don't know what to do for the best. Can we get over this?

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Shebertherbert · 26/09/2019 07:22

Why not try a trisl speration with a weekly date night. You need time to reconnect. It will also help you decide if you really want to stay together.

Shebertherbert · 26/09/2019 07:23

*trial

magoria · 26/09/2019 07:36

He threw it away without trying. Not you.

Something went wrong with OW. If it was as good as he expected he wouldn't have given you a backward glance. Do you really want to be second best? He hasn't come back for you. He wants to cone back because it is better for him.

You will be signing up to spend the next 25 years waiting for the next OW to appear who it works with.

You deserve better. Make your own life without him.

Or make him rent a place for the next 6/12 months to work on your relationship and prove he means it. Have the DC 50/50 and see how long he lasts. All while you work on your life.

aweedropofsancerre · 26/09/2019 07:39

Can’t abide cheats. So I am never good on these threads. Marriage isn’t always good, I have had ups and downs in my relationship but never have I gone off and had an affair. I couldn’t stay with someone who did that as I wouldn’t trust them and I couldn’t leave like that full of worry and anxiety. However in your case I think you need some time out to really think about you. Don’t rush into any decisions as he was happy to skip out and leave and now your trying again?! OW obviously doesn’t want him ....

CursedDiamond · 26/09/2019 07:41

I’d maybe try reading State of Affairs by Esther Perel. I know she’s divisive in here, but if you want to think about ways of going forward, it might help.

It’s ok to feel angry and betrayed though, even if you want to try. And the idea above of taking things slowly is a good one, I think.

user1493413286 · 26/09/2019 07:43

People do get over affairs but it takes a lot of work and I think this has all happened very quickly. It may help for him to move out for a couple of weeks to at least give you time and space to think about the future and avoid it all being just brushed under the carpet

WishICouldThinkOfAGoodName · 26/09/2019 07:45

How long had it been going on? How invested was he? Will he continue to see her e.g. do they work together? It’s a really difficult one, because will you ever trust him again? No one would blame you for giving a 25 year marriage another go... have you considered counselling?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 26/09/2019 07:48

"We've been together nearly 25 years and to throw it away feels wrong without trying"

Do not get stuck on the sunken costs fallacy, this is what your above comment really is. This causes you to make poor relationship decisions. He did not try and chose to embark on an affair instead; no-one forced him to do this.

People get bogged down by focusing on their sunk costs.

There are two ways to understand this process, both involving avoidance. One is an avoidance of disappointment or loss when something doesn’t work out. When a relationship doesn’t succeed, especially after a long period, especially after many shared experiences and especially after developing a hope that the relationship would be a good one, it is a loss. It is a loss of what might have been and an acknowledgement that a part of one’s life has been devoted to this endeavour.

Another angle to evaluate is that focus on “sunk cost” creates a distraction from one’s inner truth. The sentence often goes like, “I’ve already invested too much, so I can’t notice my thoughts and feelings that are telling me to end or change this relationship.”
This is a type of insidious defense against noticing yourself. You enter into a neglectful relationship with yourself which divorces you from your inner thoughts and the quiet feelings that might guide you in your life. In other words, thinking about what already has been may prevent you from deciding what you want your life to be.

The key is to clear away the distractions to rational and emotional clarity. Getting stuck in your “sunk cost” prevents you from this clarity.

No-one forced him to have an affair; that is all on him. He felt entitled to do that. He never really tried to resolve any problems within this marriage. At the very least he should give you time and space apart from him, he should be living elsewhere now particularly if you and he are still under the same roof.

What else has he done here to show you how supposedly contrite he is?. I would also consider having counselling for your own self. Have a read too of "Not just friends" written by Shirley Glass.

What do you want to teach your children about relationships and what are they learning here?. These people cannot and must not be used as the glue here to bind you and he together. Staying for the sake of the children rarely is a good idea because it also teaches them that your relationship with their dad was based on a lie. Its a terribly heavy burden to place upon them and one they will not thank you for doing either. Whose sake would you be staying for; theirs or perhaps more to the point yours?.

Robin2323 · 26/09/2019 07:52

An affair is usually a symptom of problems.

You've both acknowledged this.

You can come out of this better, stronger and happier than ever before.

BUT it will take work.
Hard work and a lot of time.

And only listen ti people who will support you.

Everyone has an option on this and not always helpful as it can do more harm than good.

If you really love each other this wake up call can be the best thing that's ever happened to your marriage.

Good luck x

Gigimum · 26/09/2019 07:59

She was a work colleague but he left there Friday and starts a new job soon. I know he hasn't been rejected by her, I have seen her begging message for him to stay with her and not me. He showed me his reply ending things and then he blocked her. I know he sounds a selfish twat and I am not defending him in anyway but I genuinely do think he wants to try. The ball is all in my court It's my decision what to do next.

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Gigimum · 26/09/2019 08:04

I still think I'm in shock about the whole situation and I don't want to hurt my kids anymore than I have to. I don't want to stay for them because I know in the long run that won't work out and will hurt them more. It's all such a mess

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Everafter1 · 26/09/2019 08:04

We've been together nearly 25 years and to throw it away feels wrong without trying
This is something that really gets to me when people have affairs. They lie, cheat, deceive, show lack of respect, cause pain, cause insecurities yet they have the victim in the situation deliberating their next move, wondering if they're justified in not wanting to be treated badly.

He threw it away without trying. Not you.
Yes!

I don't know who would cheat and expect things to go on as normal, suppose cheats of course. He done this, not you. It's up to him to pick up any pieces. Do not forget that he's completely in the wrong and he's caused so much damage.

TooTrueToBeGood · 26/09/2019 08:04

You gave a few reasons why you think you should try and make it work. There were reasons notable by their absence though. Things like you love him, you want to spend the rest of your life with him etc. Think about that. Staying because you'd be throwing away the previous 25 years is falling for the sunken cost fallacy.

Rachelover60 · 26/09/2019 08:13

It's worth giving it a try, Gigimum but you both have to work at it. If you and he are prepared to put in the effort it could work out alright. You obviously think a lot of each other.

You must have a deadline though, can't go on indefinitely not knowing where you are in the relationship.

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msmith501 · 26/09/2019 08:44

I think that it must be possible in some circumstances to get to this position and yet to somehow work it through and come out strong, albeit different to how it was before. I'm guessing the solution probably includes real honesty, communication, counselling / mediation, a desire to actually want to make it work, an understanding that trust has to be re-early and that it will take a long time potentially, making time for each other, ensuring that what you have is actually love for each other rather than it being easier to stay together etc. I know LTB is an oft quoted response but there can be ways through emotional minefields than do not always result in that if you both want to try again.

Welshe · 26/09/2019 08:51

He has been very honest no he hasn't! He'll have said what has suited him at that particular time to suit his situation, probably to appease you.
He'll be telling the other woman what she wants to hear

At the moment I understand you simply want to keep together but it can't last this way. He's a bastard and you need to accept this and try and end it.

hellsbellsmelons · 26/09/2019 09:04

He's a bastard and you need to accept this and try and end it.
Yes he's a bastard but many marriages survive affairs.
It's a deal-breaker for me but a lot of people can and do get through it.
But think things through.
No knee-jerk reactions.
It might be good for you to get some space.
As someone suggested up thread, he moves out and you start to date again. Begin from scratch. Rebuild things from the start.
You can change your mind at any time.
Just because you decide to try and then can't do it, you still have the right to end it.
It's a long hard road.
Longer and harder than ending things.
It will take everything you have to get through it but it is do-able.
Good luck OP in what ever you decide.

0lga · 26/09/2019 09:05

“Or make him rent a place for the next 6/12 months to work on your relationship and prove he means it. Have the DC 50/50 and see how long he lasts. All while you work on your life”

This is a great idea. You can go for counselling separately and together. Perhaps go on a date once a week but no sex, don’t let him stay at yours or make him meals etc. You would be dating, not having all the benefits of marriage with none of the commitment.

That way you will see how genuine he is and you can both work on all the issues you say you have.

Gigimum · 26/09/2019 12:03

Thanks you have all given me something to think about and lots of good advice. I need time and he needs to give me that, he isn't pressuring me at all and I think it is suckering me in a bit because he is agreeing to everything I say, do or request. That can't last, he's feeling guilty now. I'm going to give myself time to heal first before I make any definitive decision x

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Sleepyhead19 · 26/09/2019 12:11

I’ve been there. I’m expecting and my ex is leaving. He would never even try to work at things after he cheated. Every time I thought things were getting better again, they went sour and he’d be talking to another woman. A fear of a broken home for my kids and financial difficulty kept me with him.
I’m thinking of myself now and he’s leaving soon. I’ll have a fresh start with my fantastic kids and be happier eventually. I can’t deal with the hurt anymore and he never tried to make it up to me. She was 19. He in fact had always said they only sent pictures to each other and talked dirty. He accidentally admitted this morning in a text that he did sleep with her. That took 4 years and I know when I see him again he will say he didn’t mean it and go back to his original story. I’m not going to be a mug anymore.
You’ll always doubt what he tells you now, whether it’s working late or out with friends. Something will always niggle you that he might be up to something. Sorry to say that, but it’s true.
I’m sorry he has betrayed you like this. Stay strong xx

Gigimum · 27/09/2019 18:53

She's pregnant, there is no going back now. Does seem convenient on her part now they've split up though. I'm done. Can't forgive this

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TiredofthisBS · 27/09/2019 20:35

oh OP. I'm sorry that you are going through this. It does seem very suspicious he breaks up with her she's suddenly pregnant. Please think about seeing a solicitor ASAP to know your rights and see about filing for a divorce (if you want). It's not up to you to clear up his mess. File for child support as well.

Something tells me he's going to regret this.

0lga · 27/09/2019 20:38

I’m so sorry @Gigimum. You must be devastated.

FinallyHere · 27/09/2019 20:49

Sunken costs fallacy: he has already shown no care or concern about your relationship.

Don't do the https://www.chumplady.com/2012/04/the-humiliating-dance-of-pick-me/

Start with a physical separation and see where you go from there.

Gigimum · 27/09/2019 20:51

I'm just numb, part of me thinks and hopes she lying to get him back, I don't want to have to deal with what that means for me and the kids. But I've had this feeling since he told me about her that she was pregnant. I can't believe he's done this to me.

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