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New bloke. Not sure. Proceed with caution?

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ChippyPickledEggs · 25/09/2019 18:21

A month or so ago I had what I thought was a one weekend stand with a bloke I'd just met (I know, disgraceful, but it was fun.) I really wasn't expecting it to be anything more. We have some mutual friends and are on the periphery of eachothers social circles.

I heard from him afterwards - a text or two here or there - all pretty luke warm. I didn't feel him to be terribly interested, however he did ask me to a weekend festival where our mutual friends would also be a week or two later. I went with an open mind about what to expect and again, the first night, found him pretty luke warm. He was fun and friendly but mostly socialised with others, as did I.

However, the second day and night of the festival we reconnected and spent some nice time together. Since then he has been really keen. He asked me over to his the next weekend and made a real effort. He'd obviously cleaned his flat from top to bottom, he took me walking on the beach, and paid for a very expensive night out for us. Contact between us has been pretty much daily since. I don't do endless texting back and forth (and thankfully neither does he) but there has been a short conversation once or twice a day. He expresses excitement about seeing me again, wants to know how I am etc.

Here's the dilemma. I thought it was just going to be a one night stand. It's all been a bit boozy so far and definitely casual. However our next plan to see eachother feels like more of a date. We have arranged to go out for a meal on a school night (I am paying - it's my turn) and for it to be drinks free due to work the next day. He has taken a mornings leave off work so that he can stay at mine and not have to leave super early (he works about an hour away.) This feels like it's edging away from FWB territory.

At the moment I can take it or leave it. But if we continue to go on these kinds of dates and to sleep together I will begin to get attached. I can't stay casual forever. How to bring this up with him? Or is it best not to at this stage?

Second issue: two female friends have warned me that he doesn't treat women well. This opinion seems to be based on him having apparently messed about another mutual friend. But according to him he only spent a night or two with this woman, at which point she became super keen. He didn't reciprocate her feelings and made the mistake of trying to extricate himself gently, instead of bluntly telling her he wasn't interested. She felt she was getting mixed signals and was hurt. As far as I'm concerned this isn't ideal behaviour, obviously, but hardly the crime of the century?

How to proceed? I don't want to get hurt myself and I'm still at the stage where I can walk away unscathed. However, I do quite like him. So...

OP posts:
Techway · 28/09/2019 11:10

and you need to know he can treat women badly

Would you drive a car if you were told my someone it was a risk to drive?

If you are resilient and have very strong boundaries go ahead as you could handle being treated badly.

ChippyPickledEggs · 28/09/2019 11:12

I've no intention of handling being treated badly, more of walking away if that occurs. But at the moment it's going ok and I'm going to take him as I find him (whilst keeping guard firmly up.)

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TimeForNewStart · 28/09/2019 12:13

Listen to your gut.

RantyAnty · 28/09/2019 14:14

I'm not sure by what you've said if you've slept with him every time you've met up since the concert?

Pinkbonbon · 28/09/2019 14:32

Just be careful of the 'he can be a dick to women but he's our friend' attitude. I wouldn't want to remain friends with anyone who really treated women badly.

But I remember my narcissistic ex had so many pals who were like 'oh well he's a jerk but he's OUR jerk' in their attitude. Just showed how manipulative he was really in that they would all just whitewash the things he did thinking they wouldn't be treated exactly the same way if it somehow suited him. None of them ever warned me or other women about him, wish they bloody had!

So far he seems OK though, just keep your guard up x

ChippyPickledEggs · 28/09/2019 15:44

Yes I have Ranty, every single time, multiple times Grin

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75Renarde · 29/09/2019 12:59

Get out OP. Hes a narc.

donethinkin · 29/09/2019 13:04

If it’s a mutual friend that he messed about can’t you ask her directly? Just say that he’s chasing for dates but you’ve heard on the grapevine that he’s a wrongun and you’d like to hear directly from her. You don’t want to get involved with a bad one but he’s saying all the right things. Best to head it off now if he’s a time waster.

MsMightyTitanAndHerTroubadours · 29/09/2019 13:11

i'd give it while longer, if you are enjoying the dates and the Dance With No Pants

I get the feeling he is playing it very cool but enjoying the chase....sounds like you are not his usual type, although that depends on how true the tale of the last woman was I suppose.

I might press the mutual friend for more details, her "BUT....." does sound ominous, however that is really going to draw a line which you might not be able to get by iyswim
...where is this hard done by ex nowadays? Is she still falling for unsuitable men or was he a one off?

gnostick22a · 29/09/2019 18:43

Well CPE - I hope Monday goes well for you!

Needsomebottle · 29/09/2019 21:25

I just wonder if the other mutual friend who he was deemed to mess about had similar interactions as you did with him in the early stages. Some texts, but lukewarm, maybe they thought this was him being interested but he wasn't sure or has issues which mean he takes some time to have the confidence in himself or his feelings to come forward. Perhaps you not pushing it has made him feel comfortable letting his guard down a bit.

Like others have said, proceed with caution, pay attention to how he responds to others, how he talks about others and himself. But I think proceed. His actions do make him seem keen, and that's lovely to be on the receiving end of!

firesong · 29/09/2019 22:47

I definitely wouldn't ask this woman from his past anything at all. Judge him based on your own experience with him - haven't we all dated someone and not been as "into" them as they were with us? Doesn't sound like he did anything hideous.

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