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Sister taking all of the things from family home

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sportinguista · 02/09/2019 06:56

I just need to establish if I'm being unreasonable in feeling the way I do about things. DH says I'm not but I find it difficult to talk to family and I know Dsis will be defensive regarding this.

A bit of background...I'm the eldest of two sisters, our mother died when I was 20 and she 18, we were both at uni. She has remained in our home town, I didn't and live some distance. My father has since married again and his wife tolerates my sister but has said that she'll have neither myself nor my husband in the house. Therefore we have never really been down to their home and meet either here or in my sister's home. At first, my father blamed me and my husband but has since conceded that her dislike/hatred is irrational and without foundation but has not challenged it to 'keep the peace' and says that it's just 'her way'. This means my DS has had little contact with his GF over the years unfortunately but I can't really do much about it.

Recently I came to realise that much of the stuff, including jewellery and household items that I believed my father had in his home and would come to us with time, are now in my sister's possession. A few years ago she shared some jewellery with me giving me a small jewellery box belonging to my mother which turned out to contain three brooches which originally came from jumble sales, a small fake pearl pendant and a small silver pendant on chain which I had bought my mother when I was 13 and she always wore. There were none of the higher value items so I just assumed that these were still in trust as I'd always been told. I've since realised that my sister has them all bar my mum's wedding rind which my dad gave me and a couple of items my mum gave me before she died.

My sister also has a large number of household goods that were given as wedding presents to my parents and although they are not very high value they are lovely things ( think canteens of cutlery and glassware) some of the things were actually bought for me too such as commemorative glasses. She also has books and some other items of mine which I left for safety when I was living in shared accommodation which she took from the house without my permission as well.

I only really realised that my father probably thinks I have been given these as recently he enquired about an item that he gave for my DS (an old police helmet of his) which I've never received. My sister has had one in her house for years which BIL niece and nephew and my DS played with. My father asked DS if he liked playing with the one he had at home to which he replied that there wasn't one. My dad asked me where it was (he apparently gave two to Dsis and some uniform some for each) thinking I had kept it out of DS way and I replied that I'd not had it at all. My dad just went silent and didn't say much.

Fast forward and we're now going to be moving back to DH home country, we're unlikely to be coming back a great deal and with budget airline baggage allowances we wouldn't be able to take much in between. I'd like to take with us some mementoes from my mum to pass on to DS in the future and as he's the only GC he really should have them (Dsis doesn't have children and is past that age). Should I ask about them knowing it will likely cause trouble as she has taken all of them it seems. Or do I leave and keep the family atmosphere intact?

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sportinguista · 03/09/2019 10:47

The will has been updated since his marriage as one of the prime reasons they tied the knot was that it was a stipulation of his pension that should he predecease her she wouldn't be able to receive that as a widow. The house he has said remains in trust for us.

My son knows about my mum and I've tried to keep her memory alive in that way.

My DH has often pointed out that he feels she is very competitive. I don't view it that way and have no interest in competing we're very different and that's cool.

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user1474894224 · 03/09/2019 10:53

I am a d-i-l the other way around. We still visit f-i-l house and get on with Step mum. There are things in the house that other brothers left there 20 years ago. At first Step-mum was told not to get rid of them so she didn't. However, she has now lived there for over 20 years and I have gradually worked with her to clear out some of the junk , she has also given items to me and my husband to bring home which belonged to other relatives. (His Dad did divide up his mum's jewellery himself). If the brothers had wanted something then they have had years and years to take things and put them into their own homes. Even in the last few years when they are no longer welcome at the family home they could have asked us to get things. As none of this has happened we have to assume it's all old stuff and junk they don't want. I would be appalled if they turned up at my house asking for things we now have (some of which we tool out of politeness). You really have no claim on things which you didn't ask for years ago. Sorry.

whydoineedanickname · 03/09/2019 10:56

Definitely ask. And I’d give your dad hell about his shitty parenting and grandparent skills.

endofthelinefinally · 03/09/2019 10:57

I am glad to hear that OP.
My maternal grandmother died when my mother was a child. My Grandfather married again in his late 50s. I guess he was lonely. He died suddenly a couple of years later.
His new wife inherited everything because he didn't update his will after the marriage.
The second wife sold everything she could from the family home, including the house. What she couldn't sell she burned on the fire. She wouldn't give my mother any photos or mementos. Not even my grandmother's wedding ring.
I always advise people to make sure they make a will and update it in the event of a marriage. So many people don't think of it.

augustusglupe · 03/09/2019 11:02

Sorry you’ll just have to live with it OP. My elder sister got herself to our mums house and cleared the loft a few days after mum had died.
When we all met at the house a week later to sort out who had what, she’d already been in, unbeknownst to us.
If it’s any consolation, 20 years on, elder DSis is as bitter and jealous of everyone as she was then. Having ‘stuff’ certainly hasn’t made her happy. Your Sister sounds quite nice compared to mine tbh
Have it out with her if you think it’ll make you feel better. In my case I’m glad I just left it and moved on. If you have sentimental stuff that’s all that really matters.

sportinguista · 03/09/2019 14:46

Thanks for the perspective on this everybody and a good range of views and experiences. I suppose I should have asked for stuff sooner but for a few years I was unaware that the things had even been moved as I had no idea they'd left my dad's home as once he was with his new wife I was not really allowed to visit and I visited my sister only every so often. I don't know whether he intended her to share what she took or not, he maybe totally unaware. She may have thought she was 'saving' them but at that point we both had stable homes and I wasn't living in a shared house so there would have been no reason to think some items wouldn't have been safe. Perhaps it never occurred to her that I would want them but she never asked and I never had the chance.

I don't think it will hurt to ask my dad, if he has a problem with what she has done it will be for them to sort out in the end. I think she might feel a bit aggrieved if that happens but I don't think we'd fall out permanently or I'd like to think so.

I've never expected big inheritances so anything is a bonus but I'd rather get through life at least financially under my own steam, even if I'm never going to be at all wealthy. My sister is far, far better off than I ever will be and I have no intention of competing on that score!

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CIareIsland · 03/09/2019 14:56

My sister is far, far better off than I ever will be and I have no intention of competing on that score!

Is she? I think you lucked out there emotionally with the unconditional love of your DC.

sportinguista · 03/09/2019 17:46

Yes, I do have that and that's what I really value, that's why I have no intention of competing on financial terms. I've taken a big hit to have the time I have with DS and I don't think anything could ever compete with that for worth. You don't get everything in life. I'd love to have my mum here now, to have her see DS, I know she would have adored him. I always tell him she would have spoilt him but would have pretended she wasn't. She'd have been an ace granny!

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BillieEilish · 03/09/2019 18:51

Your sister sounds unpleasant and exactly like mine.

PrincessLouis · 03/09/2019 19:01

@WalkofShame gives good advice

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