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Finally decided to cut ties with partners family, could use some advise :(

39 replies

lizzyttc2017 · 17/08/2019 19:42

Sorry for the long post in advance! Ive been with my partner for 5 years and we have a one year old child together. He comes from a large family who are very different to mine, my family is fairly small and we are all very close, chilled out and respectful and loving towards one another. His family thrives from drama, bitching etc and they can just be very hard to be around people. It would take me such a long time to explain all the instances they have caused upset but the centre of most of the problems is his Mum. She always has something gossipy to say, usually not very kind, she expects an awful lot from everybody as if everybody owes her, she's always sat on the phone to different children (my partners siblings) gossiping or moaning about somebody else. I forever felt like I was walking on egg shells just incase I did something for them to dislike me for. They hate that we spend a good amount of time with my family, because my family actually make plans to spend time together and its a positive atmosphere. They are forever telling my partner I have changed him or he does not care about any of them (even though he sees them every week and makes more effort than others so thats a load of rubbish) Oh the list is endless. Anyway, last night was the last straw, we wrote into the group chat on whats app asking if they fancied doing secret santa this year since there is a lot of them and we wanted to ease some financial strain this Christmas (its August I know but we know people start to shop early) and mostly focus on the children and oh my goodness it turned into a bloody feud about who spends more on who and 'where does that leave us?' tit for tat comments and my partners dad texting him telling he has upset his mum and he dosent care about his family. I was shocked that even something as innocent as a secret santa suggestion could become so difficult and I ended up sending in a message telling them how shocked I am at the behaviour in this family, its fully of bitching, negative behaviour, guilt tripping, tit for tat and its so unhealthy to be around and I was pretty fed up. It probably shocked them all a bit as I never say anything and am NEVER involved in any of the family drama but enough was enough. Of course they all freaked out and his dad made a sarcastic remark about how wonderful it must be for me and my 'perfect' family and made sure to remind me that my partner basically belongs to them by saying "remember partners name is part of OUR family". Where does that leave me then, an outsider I guess.

Basically, thats me gone. Even if I wanted to come back which I don't I would never live down having the balls to tell them how it really is haha. So my main concern now is how am I going to deal with this decision I have made and still remain sane and strong in my relationship and to limit any negative effects this will have on my child. They have been good grandparents but my worry is what about when my little one grows up and gets sucked into the drama and manipulation also? I don't want to stop them from seeing my child because I don't want my baby to be used as a weapon and they aren't any danger to them. As much as I wish they had different family and grandparents I can't change that.

My partner has made it clear to his Dad via text last night that me and our child will always come first and he is currently not speaking to them even though that won't be forever, and I wouldn't expect him to cut ties too.. after all its his family, theres a lot more emotion involved. The thing is they will pounce on him and make it their life mission to drag him away from me. Move over previous family enemies, Im the fresh new enemy in town haha (I joke but Im actually feeling so sad and lost right now). Im just very confused at how to make this whole situation as painless as possible, otherwise it defeats the point of removing this toxic family from my life if it continues to bring me more negativity than it did before.

Would love to hear from others in a similar situation :/

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CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 17/08/2019 19:51

Paragraphs?

Witchinaditch · 17/08/2019 20:18

Wow that’s a helpful first comment to someone who is clearly upset!

Sorry to hear that you’re going through this, it sounds like you’ve made the right decision to take a step back, it’s your partners responsibility to make sure your Dc has a relationship with his family, and if they step out of line as in bad mouthing you to your child, contact stops, you’re right the child is not a weapon but they have to be respectful of the child’s mother. I hope your DP supports you.

FuriousVexation · 17/08/2019 20:28

Its very hard for children on either side to step out of the FOG

Does your DP acknowledge that he needs to step away from his abusive family?

Freddiefox · 17/08/2019 20:29

*Paragraphs? Huh? Sentences?

Op ignore the first poster she’s clearly in with your In laws.

EileenAlanna · 17/08/2019 21:07

Totally in awe of how you held out for 5 years before letting them have it with both barrels. So glad to hear that your DP has your back & stepped up.
Yours, his & your DC's relationships will unlikely ever be the same with them again but it's really hard to come up with a reason why that would be a bad thing.
I think if/when your DP is prepared to resume contact with them he should keep it very low key & pretty infrequent. There's no need for you to ever see them again if you don't want to & definitely no need for him to take your DC with him any time he does.
I'd not want my kids being exposed to so much toxicity & bitching tbh so don't feel there's some great cosmic reason why you should.

ButterflyBlue13 · 18/08/2019 13:33

Sounds like my Family - You done the best ting cutting ties.

From a person who has grown up with such a negative, bitching Family - It still affects me as an Adult in so many ways. It's given me severe Anxiety when I meet new people, I egg shell around people a lot just in case they are like my Family.

It was only in the last few years I decided to cut contact myself - I refuse to allow my children to suffer what I did growing up and it's the best decision I have ever made!! I am so much happier now.

Best thing to do is just avoid contact and only do it if you have to. Get them off social media and block their numbers if you can. If your partner wants to resume contact then that is his choice to, just keep yourself out of the drama and focus on you, your child and partner :) Hope t works out for you!!

SandyY2K · 18/08/2019 13:43

The only thing I would have done differently is not respond or say anything and just pull back from them by reducing contact .

It just adds fuel to the fire with ppl like that.

As the organiser of secret santa... I really can't see the harm.

Kmoore · 18/08/2019 13:48

Sounds like my family.
I am so much more happier since I cut the majority of them from mine and my children’s life. Negativity breeds negativity and in my view that would happen if my children had contact with them. If they are anything like my family, they love a witch hunt and this may get harder before it gets easier. It’s been 4 years for me now and I never think of them or hear of them.
My life is so much happier and you need to stay strong in your decision.
You are in a relationship with your partner, not his family. You, your child and your dp are your own little family. Concentrate on that and anyone else positive in your life is a bonus.
If you do want your child to have some involvement, make it minimal. Not every week on certain days etc. Just especial occasions. If this upsets them then they should have thought about the outcome before being so vile to you.
Just enjoy your happy life now and don’t dwell on what could happen. The main thing is they are gone

AgentJohnson · 18/08/2019 15:21

I’m sure they will try and turn your partner against you but it’s his choice if he lets them. You did the right thing.

Scratchyfluffface · 18/08/2019 18:21

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rugshade · 18/08/2019 18:34

Please don't take the "cut ties" advice that you'll get on Mumsnet. It will ruin your husband's family life. Try not to come between him and his family, I've seen it happen with friends and it's awful, very isolating for the husband. Perhaps just invest less and put up with them. Family is important.

Nanny0gg · 18/08/2019 18:48

Family is important.

Only if it brings something positive to your life.

rugshade · 18/08/2019 19:18

@Nanny0gg What an odd and selfish attitude.

Nanny0gg · 18/08/2019 19:25

Why?

Some family can be very destructive. Who needs that in their lives?

Not odd or selfish at all.

Treat me badly and I'll put up with it? Don't think so.

rugshade · 18/08/2019 19:30

One would hope that family would put up with each other, yes. That's what family is for!

rugshade · 18/08/2019 19:31

Otherwise, what's the difference to you between a family member and an acquaintance?

Femodene · 18/08/2019 21:23

Family is what we choose for ourselves, not what is foisted upon us by other people’s lack of contraception. Toxic trash does not need to be in anyone’s life, genes are irrelevant.

rugshade · 18/08/2019 21:46

Jeez.

Femodene · 18/08/2019 22:15

‘Jeez’what? You think people should have toxic abusers in their life because of genes? People who are not burdened with abusers as relatives cannot understand or offer opinions on the subject.

rugshade · 19/08/2019 06:20

This post is not about a person who has suffered abuse at the hands of their family. It's about someone having a WhatsApp tiff with her in-laws.

rainandshine52 · 19/08/2019 06:43

OMG sounds like by DHs family. I had a similar situation with the secret Santa. I arranged it all then they all just bought presents as usual and sabotaged the whole thing after saying they would do it. I didn't go off the deep end I just thought they were idiots. The next year I just bought DHs mum a present and the kids and left it at that! You talk about how the kids will be living with this. What I have found in DHs family ( and the kids are all early 20s now) is that the kids ignore them and don't go anywhere near the crazy aunts and grandparents. So in their gossipy weirdness they have isolated themselves!

IrisAtwood · 19/08/2019 06:59

@rugshade

You clearly have little experience with dysfunctional families and the way that you minimise the OP’s experience is shocking.

How dare you characterise her experience as ‘a tiff’. She is describing. pattern of abusive behaviour from more than one member of her DP’s family. Perhaps you are from the generation that thinks abuse is about black eyes and broken bones?

OP, your DP’s family sounds like my own. After many, many years I am now NC and life is much more peaceful and I am happier.

pallasathena · 19/08/2019 07:31

I'd go grey rock OP. You can detach, remain polite but distant and simply not engage in any of the nonsense or negative commentary about other family members.
You are in a good position now. Maintain your dignity and gradually build a life for yourself and your family that breaks the co-dependency mould his family operates.
You can do this.
And breathe!

Discombobulated47 · 19/08/2019 07:49

It sounds like we have the same inlaws! I no longer have contact with them, but obviously don't prevent my husband or children. However, they have reduced contact to once a year.
Constant drama and unpleasantness.
He was part of the family, I was an attachment. It werr the other spouses.
Do what feels right to you and your family Flowers
Family life is hard enough without unsupportive people around.

RibenaMonsoon · 19/08/2019 07:51

We've been doing secret santa for years. It's so much fun, my family is so shite at keeping secrets that we all find out who's got who in the end. It's alot of fun in the run up to Christmas trying to find out. I've 2 DCs and Dsis has 1 DC so we make it all about them and because of the secret santa, we can afford to splash out a bit more on making Christmas so magical for them.
Your DH's family are being twats. Maybe try and sell it in a 'it will be fun in the run up to Christmas trying to figure out who's got who'. If MIL is a gossip she will probably eat that up.

If all else fails, don't feel bad about the LC/NC. It sounds like you've done amazingly so have dealt with that as long as you have.