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DP and his ex inappropriate?

65 replies

MargeB · 10/08/2019 06:12

DP and me been together 9 years this June. He has two boys, 11 and 15 with ex wife. The boys live with her in Basingstoke, about half hour drive from us. I don't talk to the ex wife since she tried to sabotage our Christmas with a mystery illness which she miraculously recovered from when DP drove up there, and interfering in our relationship on and off since the beginning. Just stirring and feigning illnesses to get attention.

DP is oblivious to her meddling. For the past year or so they've been in contact via text nearly every day, not particularly about the kids but just general chit chat, even discussing our problems like wanting a child of our own. I've made it clear I'm not happy with it, but he claims it's entirely innocent and they just get on well. They even go out for drinks together, I'm not invited because I've made it clear i think she's poison and she's made no secret of the fact she dislikes me and thinks my DP can do better. She actually said that!

I understand they have to get on for the kids, but texting every day and going out for drinks occasionally feels wrong to me. It doesn't help that I have little confidence, am overweight and not sure if this is why I'm making an issue out of something that is, I think quite innocent. I've talked to DP but he's made it clear that he's not prepared to cool things down as it's my problem, I'm being controlling.

What hurts is that he knows it upsets me, but he can't seem to stop texting her. He says he misses their chats and feels sorry for her as she's lonely. I told him I don't mind them texting, just not every day. And I don't like them going for drinks. I think it's strange and not something you do with an ex. But he's adamant it's all innocent and they're just friends.

Just to reiterate I have no problem with him chatting about the kids. But it just feels out of order how close they are. And knowing how manipulative his ex is. And I can't stand that he's discussed our personal problems with this woman, especially the difficult conceiving issue. She once said, when we were still being civil, that some women just aren't meant to be mothers, which really hurt. DP just said she says things without thinking.

What can I say that will make DP see that it's killing our relationship. I'm so full of resentment it's getting to the point where I feel like I'm going crazy. DP has no close friends, only work colleagues, and so I feel mean stopping them socializing because he has no close friends to go out with.

Tonight was a breaking point having sat on the sofa all night, trying to have a conversation whilst he was tapping away on his phone to her all evening, I could scream.

OP posts:
simplekindoflife · 10/08/2019 16:34

I don't think this behaviour is ok and even if I did, you're not happy with it and you've told him this, but he's still doing it... decision time here I think.

I wouldn't be happy with it and it would be a deal breaker for me. I certainly wouldn't be having kids with him as I wouldn't trust him.

If you give him an ultimatum though, be prepared to follow through.

womenspeakout · 10/08/2019 16:34

What on Earth are they texting about all night?

This is such strange behaviour for exes, yes he should have a good relationship for the kids, and communicate, but this goes far too far. All night texting and ignoring you, does he understand who he's actually in a relationship with?

He's still your DP even after nine years and you wanting a child together? Any reason?

palahvah · 10/08/2019 16:39

Blaming yourself is unhelpful. You can make a choice now, and you deserve better than the treatment you're getting from him.

Get yourself out there and be no-one's second fiddle.

Good luck x

HaileySherman · 10/08/2019 16:40

Going out for drinks? That's too far. He doesn't have other friends? That's not your fault. If he needs that social interaction then he should try to find other friends.

AnyFucker · 10/08/2019 16:52

He is having an affair with his ex in plain sight and you are simply a bit part player

What you say to him is "fuck off back to her" and mean it

Mageton · 10/08/2019 17:12

It doesn’t sound like he’s oblivious to the fact she’d like nothing better than to have him to herself. It sounds like he’s very aware of it and enjoys having two women fighting over him at a distance. This way he also doesn’t have to commit to either of you does he? He can just be the juicy bone you fight over.

ChristmasFluff · 10/08/2019 18:42

He's your problem, not her.

I am extremely amicable with my ex-husband, he is my 'in case of emergency' contact etc, but we only speak about our son, about finances etc. Why are they going out for drinks????

You do not need to tell him that discussing conceiving etc is inappropriate - he's an ADULT and he KNOWS.

They are both manipulative. He is using you to triangulate her, and she is whatever she is . But she isn't your business.

He doesn't love you. That IS your business.

AllFourOfThem · 10/08/2019 18:48

You are not to blame.

I have to admit that I would leave him. I’m not a jealous person and being in touch with an ex isn’t an issue for me but he is spending all his time messaging and none on your relationship. I’d feel the same if he was spending all his time on a computer game or similar instead.

MsDogLady · 10/08/2019 19:03

Chatting with her all night while you sat next to him trying to have a conversation? He was actually in her presence, not yours.

He prioritizes her and ignores your feelings. They are together again and are even going on dates. Stop tolerating this and show him the door.

Mermaidsinthesand · 11/08/2019 07:59

Why does everything have to come back to controlling these days? What happened to stop respect.

He is showing lack of respect, hiding behind words of controlling just to have his cake and eat it

I'd tell him general chit chat and things about the children fine, but talking about you to her, drinks daily texts that is not on.

Kewlwife · 11/08/2019 08:00

Is it quite normal for people to tell their partners who they can speak to and what they can talk about?

SwordofGryffindor · 11/08/2019 12:52

He loves the drama.. why did you get with him when he had a baby at home ? Just curious

MrsPworkingmummy · 11/08/2019 13:02

Christ OP, he's done a job on you hasn't he?? Leave him: you deserve so much better. He's not only being disrespectful, but he's ground your self esteem down to make you feel like this is your fault. Book into a hotel tonight, then start divorce proceedings tomorrow.

AgentJohnson · 11/08/2019 13:20

Do not have a child with this man!

This is who he is and he has made it very clear that he isn’t about to change. He understands how you feel, he just doesn’t care.

LittleWing80 · 11/08/2019 17:32

Out of interest, do you know how they split up? To understand their dynamic?

It sounds like she dumped him and whatever else she was aiming for hasn’t worked out so she has him on her backburner. Sounds like to him she is the one that got away and sadly you are on his backburner. I might be wrong.

That level and content of contact is disrespecful to you. These are your intimate issues, he is being careless and cruel.

Look after yourself, big hugs 💐

SapatSea · 11/08/2019 18:21

She is the OW, he is texting and having "dates" (drinks) with her. They may not end in sex but their relationship is definitely taking from you. She is his confidant and you are being put in position Number 2. Ex W is revelling no doubt in still being number 1. That is why you are finding it so disturbing.

You were being reasonable an dtrying to be a grown up and the situation has just escalated, Good ol Marge. Is it a dealbreaker for you? Your partner thinks it isn't for you. You have called him on it and he won't budge. When you are ready give an ultimatum that you are prepared to carry through.

MargeB · 13/08/2019 15:12

It was a messy split. I think she's not over him, and is clearly jealous of us. Hence the desperate need to be involved in our relationship, or attention from DP. Maybe he likes the attention too.

I put up with it initially because of the kids, but reading the comments on here its gone beyond that. I feel betrayed because whats she's said isnt ok, and he makes excuses for her behavior rather than back me up.

We've been trying IVF for years, which hasn't worked. I cant stand that she knows about all that too. Its private between us, but the excuse is that they're mates and talk about all sorts of things. He has no mates himself etc. Im so angry with him. And her. I just want her out of our lives, but because of the kids she won't be.

Im worried if I make him choose, he'll choose her. When they've gone for drinks and a 'catch up' the kids aren't there. It all feels really wrong :(

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LittleWing80 · 13/08/2019 15:49

Yes, it does sound like the dynamic but if fairness, she is only doing it because he allows her to.

I am with you on the allowing them to coparent but this is beyond that.

The betrayal for me is discussing your intimate issues with someone he knows is trying to split you two up (because I don’t buy the whole ‘he is naive’, ‘she is manipulating him’, ‘they are just mates’).

I would ask to be there if they meet up. I don’t see why you wouldn’t be included.

Musti · 13/08/2019 15:59

I would start joining them for drinks...see what happens then. Tell your husband that this high level of contact is unfair to everyone - to you because he's being with her how he should be with you and to her because it's not allowing her to move on. Tell him that whilst you don't mind them being friendly, this is too much and crosses the line and you will no longer accept it.

Bluntness100 · 13/08/2019 16:06

Who instigated the split op?

The fact this has only started happening in thr last year, and it Wasn't like this before, is a bit concerning that they are getting close again.

Is this why you're worried that he would now pick her? Is she involved with anyone else?

hellsbellsmelons · 13/08/2019 16:11

He says he misses their chats and feels sorry for her as she's lonely
So now he's her knight in shining armour!!??
Fuck that OP.
You deserve far better.
None of this is OK.
And he's playing her against you.
I'd leave them to each other - they deserve each other

RUN - THE HILLS ARE THAT WAY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bluntness100 · 13/08/2019 16:20

This is one of the few times on here I think there is something to be worried about, often it's just Jealous imaginary crap.

Op, he's texting her all the time, even with you, goes for drinks alone with her, has even told you he missed their chats, which he will also have told her, and more and all this has started in the last year.

The issue here is uou don't want to loose him, and fear if you made him chose, ie told him no more with her, he would pick her.

I think you need to say no more, and if he does pick her, then you're best off out of it instead of letting it drag on till that happened any way. It's better to do it now, rather than give them more time to get closer.

Scorpiovenus · 13/08/2019 16:25

I'm sorry OP but I think you have been short changed in this relationship.

I'm sorry but its true.

Teddybear45 · 13/08/2019 16:29

I think you should just leave. There’s definitely something going on between them and probably has been since your relationship started. Leave him to her and go live your life!

Morgan12 · 13/08/2019 16:32

Get him to fuck. Honestly if he isn't willing to cool their relationship for your sake then he is basically picking her anyway.

I'd bet my left arm they reconcile about 3.4 seconds after you dump him.