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Coping Strategies re PILs

48 replies

CalendulaQueen · 06/08/2019 10:07

So, the annual visit to the PILs is approaching and depression is setting in. We have known each other for decades but I am finding visits increasingly stressful, both the anticipation and the resentment afterwards.

They are not bad people as such, just difficult. It's hard to put into words what the problem is. There is also a slight language barrier, which doesn't help.

PILs have never asked how I am or ask me any questions whatsoever about myself basically. They also barely acknowledge their grandchildren (although they are happy to see them) and don't really talk to them either. MIL has always talked a great deal, basically a monologue with no input required.

There are set times for meals but we are not expected to be in the house outside of these times. Tea (the drink) is considered for the weak so there is none in the house. They would not consider that other people drink tea. Tea is for the weak.

Likewise, people do not have regular showers or baths in their world so we are never given towels on arrival, only a small hand towel. Washing clothes there is an issue - somehow seen as wasteful or a lack or organisation?

I suppose anything at all that is outside of their "normal" is unacceptable.

They don't accept allergies exist although they suffer from them themselves and have been given clear instructions from various specialists on how to eradicate the problem. So me and the children suffer badly from allergies when we are there. They don't see the relation between sneaking certain foods in meals with the resulting diarrhoea - though this is impossible to ignore! They are somehow blind to it. No question of an apology.

If we go out for a meal, to one of their approved places, PILs know in advance what they want and order immediately on arrival. No time to look at the menu myself. The waiting staff know them and have us in and out very efficiently.

PIL have never really visited us in our own homes, whether in their country, or abroad, not even long enough to stay for coffee, just a brief walk-through when we have moved house. They did travel widely when they were younger though, just never to us.

I feel very stressed there all the time. More and more I just try and hide in a corner with a book. I don't think they see this as a slight or rude, my presence or non-presence is of no significance.

So, do you have any coping strategies? Any thoughts on how to get through this? Every visit could well be the last one but I have just had enough. I feel like my PILs somehow suck all the life out of me. Or like I don't even exist as a person when I am there. Not deliberately or maliciously ignored, just like I'm invisible.

Any thoughts? Thanks for reading this.

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Cocolapew · 06/08/2019 10:10

Why on earth are you going. Cope by staying at home.

CalendulaQueen · 06/08/2019 10:15

That is very tempting, believe me.

I did that once and nobody even asked where I was. The year after they asked if I was coming or not. I've only ever missed ONE visit.

I'm going because their behaviour is not malicious and because I want to be there for my children.

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Oldraver · 06/08/2019 10:19

Just dont go, life is too short.

I remember PIL's slating me as I wanted a bath every other day (would of prefered everyday but didnt dare ask). We always put more than eough money in the meter but felt like criminals asking for the water on. It was a horrible feeling.I wouldn't tolerate that these days

Life is too short to waste on miderable people. How old are your DC's and just how long are you going to inflict this on them ?

Cocolapew · 06/08/2019 10:22

If they barely acknowledge your DCs what's the point of them going?
It is malicious, they are dictating how you and your family should behave, and don't acknowledge you or the children.

KitKatCHA · 06/08/2019 10:24

Why on earth are you putting your children in a situation where their allergies are ignored and as a consequence they are ill? Not only that, they are ignored while there and are likely miserable. You need to start putting them first.

Rubbinghimsweetly2 · 06/08/2019 10:25

Stop being a martyr.

hormonesorDHbeingadick · 06/08/2019 10:26

They knowingly give your DC food that makes then unwell? My children wouldn’t be staying with them.

Drum2018 · 06/08/2019 10:32

You are bringing this on yourself by going. There is no earthly reason you and the kids have to go. If your Dh wants to visit his parents let him off and tell him there is no point you being there as they don't acknowledge you and you don't enjoy going. This is not something you have to suck up and go along with. Stand up for yourself and stop visiting them.

CalendulaQueen · 06/08/2019 10:35

MIL gives DH food he has an extreme reaction to.

She just won't accept his reaction. The food is delicious so she won't accept it can make him ill. Unfortunately it can be sneaked in food unseen.

Children (and PILs!) allergic to dust mites in the very expensive goose down duvets which will never be replaced. PIL will just not accept their things are the problem.

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Lunde · 06/08/2019 10:37

Why visit at all to allow you and DC to be made ill? Why not send DH for visits alone? I would not subject DC to people who deliberately make them ill.

If you feel you have to visit - why stay with them at all? Especially if you are only allowed in the house for meals. Why not rent a self catering/airBnB/hotel nearby and "drop in" a couple of times where no food will be served.

I would be rethinking the whole idea that you need to visit given that they don't make you welcome at all

beaneyes · 06/08/2019 10:38

What is the point in going? Invite them to you instead and tell them why you're not going. Why would you put your (food allergic) child through that?!

beaneyes · 06/08/2019 10:38

What is the point in going? Invite them to you instead and tell them why you're not going. Why would you put your (food allergic) child through that?!

beaneyes · 06/08/2019 10:38

What is the point in going? Invite them to you instead and tell them why you're not going. Why would you put your (food allergic) child through that?!

beaneyes · 06/08/2019 10:38

Oops!

CalendulaQueen · 06/08/2019 10:40

We do often stay in a nearby hotel etc but this is an expensive region and we can't do that every time.

It's not that we're not welcome exactly. They prepare gourmet meals, which is their way of showing respect etc. (But then they don't "do" breakfast so there is no real breakfast available)

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VeThings · 06/08/2019 10:42

Stay somewhere else and pop in to see them / meet for meals. Look at the menu beforehand, tell the staff you need a few minutes to look at the menu.

If you can’t stay elsewhere, order comforts that can be used there - cheap duvets - and donate to a charity at the end of stay is PIL funny about you storing stuff there.

Take teabags with you. Who cares if they think they are for the weak - just say I like drinking tea, make yourself a cup and ignore comments.

Basically - take control of the situation if you feel you have to go. No need to be a martyr.

Ragwort · 06/08/2019 10:44

Just don't go, or send your DH alone or with the children. Let him talk to his parents about his allergies. Take your own towels and breakfast food. Don't be a martyr, they would probably prefer to just see their son on his own anyway.

Which country is it? Confused

CalendulaQueen · 06/08/2019 11:06

Things like the tea (which was just one example) - I do take tea with me! And I just don't hear/understand any comments made about things like that. I ignore completely anything unreasonable.

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Tooner · 06/08/2019 11:16

I would just tell DH he can go on his own. What does he have to say about it all?

CalendulaQueen · 06/08/2019 11:18

Just to clarify, I'm not a martyr about stuff like breakfast cereals or tea, I take that with me. Duvets etc are just not possible. My point is they still just don't accept that people live differently so they "can't" or won't buy those things for us (this is nothing to do with money!)

I'm possibly a martyr about going though.

re the allergies, MIL suffers terribly with her dust mite allergy too. She still doesn't "believe" in allergies and wouldn't consider trying synthetic duvets etc although numerous specialists have advised her to do so.

Also, this is just the way they are. With everyone. It's not malicious.

If anything, I suspect they are on the spectrum, rigid thinking and routines etc., lack of emotion and relationship building?

I think they do love their grandchildren but can't show it. And they do appreciate our visits.

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TheABC · 06/08/2019 11:57

I would be booking an Airbnb or nearby cottage so you had control over your food and allergies. If they are making you I'll after repeated requests, they clearly don't care about you or the kids. You would also be able to get out and about without their disapproval.

Failing that, stand up for yourself. Buy cheap duvets whilst you are there, keep an eye on food prep and stop them adding it (do a separate plate, if needed) and arrange to get out each day. It looks like the loss of autonomy is getting to you, as much as the inconvenience.

What does DH say about it?

VeThings · 06/08/2019 12:04

Why aren’t duvets possible if you must stay there - do they live somewhere so remote that Amazon won’t deliver?

Lovemenorca · 06/08/2019 12:09

Op

Seriously, how can you let your children see you behave so.... pathetically?

Bring your own towels
Bring and make your own tea
Bring your own detergent and say “just putting a wash on, brought my own detergent to save yours”

And if anyone “snuck” in food that my children were allergic to... that would be the last time I visited

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Lovemenorca · 06/08/2019 12:11

No time to look at the menu myself

FFS

“I’m not ready just yet, give me a minute thanks”