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Somehow I've turned into a f*%@ buddy....

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Tamz77 · 01/08/2007 18:40

I'm 2 months into my first relationship since a very damaging relationship with ds's father. The guy in question is so gorgeous it makes me melt every time I look at him. On paper we should be perfect together; we are both single parents, same age, it's easy for us to meet up (he's self-employed and we're both pretty flexible). But, get this: in 2 months we have had NO dates since our first week of coffees and pub lunches. No cinema, club, walk in the park, restaurants, meeting each other's friends. We've done a couple of kids' things as a foursome but nothing else.

The problems are these: number one, he never asks me anything about myself. Oh, once he asked me about some books on my bookshelf. But conversation is almost painful because I have to say everything that comes into my head, as otherwise it's all about him: interesting enough, but not a 2-way exchange in the slightest. My gran died last week and all he said when I told him was, "Right." No, "How are you? Were you close? When's the funeral?" or anything. Number two, the only time we spend together is 9.30 pm (ie after ds is asleep) until 8 am at my house, to do You Know What, which is great, as it's been 4 yrs in my case (!), but not really what I had in mind.

I accept the fact that this is not a long term prospect but surely I can expect a little more? I've mentioned it briefly, how I'm perplexed that he says how much he likes me but apparently never wants to venture out in public together or to construct anything more meaningful. He never calls me his girlfriend, invites me to meet his friends, is always making arrangements on days I have put aside for us to get together, and yet all the time is telling me how great I am and how much he likes me.

We met online so inevitably I'm suspicious that he's got fifteen other women in similar situations dotted about the city, but I think that's my own paranoia, I've met his kid and been to his house so I doubt he's married, but being a f*%@ buddy is really not what I wanted at my time of life. However, I don't want to make a fuss about something that's not really a problem, as the sex is good, he's very sweet and nice and cuddly and all that jazz. Anyone who's had this and managed to turn it into something else, I'd be very grateful to hear from.

Confession: I am lonely and desperate for adult male company and if it wasn't for this would have shut this down before now. He has a history of getting 'inexplicably dumped' and I rather feel I'm going to be the next one, though he's so beautiful, and the sense of potential is so huge, I just can't let it go yet.

Sorry, this is probably more of a vent than an actual dilemma, I've just never had something so casual and don't think I want it, either. Want to know really whether I'm kidding myself on the 'potential' thing.

Thanks for listening xx

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Tamz77 · 01/08/2007 20:37

Yes I suppose you're right, there's not much else apart from his looks. It's just that I've spent so long wanting a man in my life, one who's not cruel and nasty like ds's dad was. I've got that I guess but not much else, and in fact a whole load of other problems. Will have to have a hard think about where to go from here.

Be careful what you wish for, ladies!

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Spandex · 01/08/2007 20:40

And I really hope that a man who is gorgeous and brilliant fun to be with comes your way very soon, Tamz77!

binklehasflipped · 01/08/2007 20:47

Tam, not read all the posts but when I read that he seemed almost reluctant to have sex it really rang a bell with me.

I went out with a gorgeous man who never pushed for sex. We would kiss very passionately, I could tell he was bodily up for it but nothing. I even got into bed with the sexy undies and nothing. We went out for 8 months and only had sex once in that time (about three months in) I honestly started to think he must be gay!

Anyway I ended over an unrelated matter and wondered how he'd end up - six months later he met and married his wife and then now have two kids - guess I just didnt do it for him..

BreeVanDerCampLGJ · 01/08/2007 20:50

Ok here is the plan.

F88K his brains out. Then make sure you are in a position[snurk] to stand up and leave and say that was fab, call me if you get a chance.

Walk away, no discussions, no implications of neediness, just walk away.

expatinscotland · 01/08/2007 20:51

Maybe she was just as asexual as he was, binkle.

EricGallagher · 01/08/2007 20:52

"F88K his brains out. Then make sure you are in a position[snurk] to stand up and leave and say that was fab, call me if you get a chance.

Walk away, no discussions, no implications of neediness, just walk away"

Would you recommend that to anyone LGJ?

expatinscotland · 01/08/2007 20:54

I can't see where the sex with such a bloke would be so hot. I mean, he's not exactly Mr Passion.

BreeVanDerCampLGJ · 01/08/2007 20:57

Eric......................

Well yes.... but reality is sometimes different.

BreeVanDerCampLGJ · 01/08/2007 20:58

Tamz77 does not appear to be as far down the road as you were, hence the potential for dreadful upset and fallout in your situation.

swalesie · 01/08/2007 21:00

In my experience i find it can work, me and my dp just met each other for sex for 6months ish before we started dating each other properly (romantic i know) and five years later we have a 10 month old son and are so so happy, and is such a romantic guy! I can honestly say its the best one night stand ive ever had!

Tamz77 · 02/08/2007 03:45

Well the sex is good. There'd be absolutely nothing there at all if it wasn't.

Anyway I've taken all advice on board and my plan (at the moment) is to give it until this concert I've bought us tickets for; if he ducks out of that one too, I'll explain all this and call it a day. I'm sure it's just a situation where there's attraction between us but no connection and we're simply not right for each other. He's had a couple of long term relationships - really long term - and I can't imagine he was like this with them yet managed to sustain those relationships for several years, it must be me/our dynamic. Also personality-wise these women were totally different from me which should tell me I'm not his type.

I can't continue like this anyhow it's at that sad and shameful point where I'm hanging onto my mobile all the time waiting for him to get in touch, feeling worried and miserable when he doesn't and ridiculously happy/grateful when he does. I guess this is the aftermath of being lonely as hell for 4 years and apart from the joy of getting laid again, it's not a happy situation.

Thanks so much for all advice. I'm going to buy that book expat recommended and pre-empt the next one of these!

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 02/08/2007 07:17

Tamz

Yes but this "relationship" is purely based on sex.

I personally think you've gone from one bad lot as a man to yet another ultimately hopeless case.

You have been lonely yes and are desperate for male adult company but such men pick up on such vulnerability and use it to their own ends. As is the case here.

I think you need to take a good and long hard look at your own relationship history and change you. If you want a satisfying and lasting relationship you've got to learn to love your own self first. Men like this current man won't help you, a relationship purely based on sex won't be ultimately satisfying or lasting.

If this man cannot sustain any long term relationship then you need to ask yourself why and why on earth you think you would be the "one" to turn things around. You cannot act as someone's rescuer or saviour in a relationship.

TBH I woulnd't wait until the concert but end it now (and I never advocate such things lightly but you're hurting) to save yourself even more emotional pain.

FioFio · 02/08/2007 07:30

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hurtwife · 02/08/2007 07:37

Here is another thought for you. The oral sex was for his pleasure too i suppose. Most mens dream too. He gets that from you without the risk of disease which he can pass on to his long term relationship (not that i am saying you have anything) but you do have to be careful and maybe if he does do this as his 'hobby' he knows what the risks are.

When you went to his house did you think this is a single mans house or was there evidence of a woman?

I would be very wary of not meeting any of his friends or family - it does not have to be everyone but there must be someone who knows about you by now if he really is 'into' you. Surely his friends would be interested too in helping him have a proper relationship.

allgonebellyup · 02/08/2007 08:01

i am also in the same situation, ive been seeing bloke for about 6 wks, he makes a "booty call" round my house (his words not mine) and i have only slept with him once but the intention is there from him every time he comes round.
He does ask me a lot about myself but he has only taken me out once for the day, with all our kids in tow. he does buy me presents all the time but i suspect this is just to try and get into my knickers..

same as the op , he is so damn attractive that i cant resist him, even tho we've only had sex once, its been close several other times and i feel so guilty cos of my kids asleep upstairs!
i know it is going nowhere, but the lust stops me telling him to sling his hook!

expatinscotland · 02/08/2007 09:24

It's a really, really good book, Tam, written by a man.

Tamz77 · 03/08/2007 10:57

Yeah I've heard about the book before, wasn't the author somehow involved with Sex & The City as a writer? Have even looked at in in Borders but due to having NO male interest for so long have had no cause to buy it. Until now. The man is coming round tonight, maybe I should buy it today and leave it on the bedside table...!

Not that I'm in a position to give advice, but I guess what we have to do (belly and me) is decide what we want and not settle for less. Ultimately I don't want to be a f* buddy, it feels like a waste of time. Sex alone is not enough.

Good luck belly I have to say if my one actually called me a "booty call" to my face I'd be quite upset (yeah I know it's what I am, but still).

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