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Somehow I've turned into a f*%@ buddy....

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Tamz77 · 01/08/2007 18:40

I'm 2 months into my first relationship since a very damaging relationship with ds's father. The guy in question is so gorgeous it makes me melt every time I look at him. On paper we should be perfect together; we are both single parents, same age, it's easy for us to meet up (he's self-employed and we're both pretty flexible). But, get this: in 2 months we have had NO dates since our first week of coffees and pub lunches. No cinema, club, walk in the park, restaurants, meeting each other's friends. We've done a couple of kids' things as a foursome but nothing else.

The problems are these: number one, he never asks me anything about myself. Oh, once he asked me about some books on my bookshelf. But conversation is almost painful because I have to say everything that comes into my head, as otherwise it's all about him: interesting enough, but not a 2-way exchange in the slightest. My gran died last week and all he said when I told him was, "Right." No, "How are you? Were you close? When's the funeral?" or anything. Number two, the only time we spend together is 9.30 pm (ie after ds is asleep) until 8 am at my house, to do You Know What, which is great, as it's been 4 yrs in my case (!), but not really what I had in mind.

I accept the fact that this is not a long term prospect but surely I can expect a little more? I've mentioned it briefly, how I'm perplexed that he says how much he likes me but apparently never wants to venture out in public together or to construct anything more meaningful. He never calls me his girlfriend, invites me to meet his friends, is always making arrangements on days I have put aside for us to get together, and yet all the time is telling me how great I am and how much he likes me.

We met online so inevitably I'm suspicious that he's got fifteen other women in similar situations dotted about the city, but I think that's my own paranoia, I've met his kid and been to his house so I doubt he's married, but being a f*%@ buddy is really not what I wanted at my time of life. However, I don't want to make a fuss about something that's not really a problem, as the sex is good, he's very sweet and nice and cuddly and all that jazz. Anyone who's had this and managed to turn it into something else, I'd be very grateful to hear from.

Confession: I am lonely and desperate for adult male company and if it wasn't for this would have shut this down before now. He has a history of getting 'inexplicably dumped' and I rather feel I'm going to be the next one, though he's so beautiful, and the sense of potential is so huge, I just can't let it go yet.

Sorry, this is probably more of a vent than an actual dilemma, I've just never had something so casual and don't think I want it, either. Want to know really whether I'm kidding myself on the 'potential' thing.

Thanks for listening xx

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Tamz77 · 01/08/2007 19:54

Sorry I know he sounds almost unbelievably complicated but it's all as I tell it, he's so hard to read, have never encountered anyone like this. As for the marrying him thing, I have this little fantasy of working him out, and us living happily together ever after. It's not just because he's a total hottie.

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kama · 01/08/2007 19:54

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raspberryberet · 01/08/2007 19:56

Don't for one moment think that you can sort him out. You shouldn't go into a relationship trying to change someone.

From what you say it's hard to see what's so good about him. And if you're wanting to change him then it's even harder to see what's so good about him!

EricGallagher · 01/08/2007 19:57

Why don't you phone him up and ask him to the cinema/drink/walk in the park?

bananabump · 01/08/2007 19:57

Hmm, I hate to say it but it sounds like sleeping with you is just another hobby he does well.

See it for what it is: great sex. Don't get hurt by him, he doesn't sound like he wants to get deeper into you than your knickers right now.

expatinscotland · 01/08/2007 19:58

Um, Tam, a fuck buddy by definition is someone who sees you only for sex. Not hangs around you for two months before you convince him to shag you .

He sounds weird.

Ever read a book called 'He's Just Not that Into You' or 'You Didn't Hear It From Us'?

If not, I'd recommend them, particularly the former.

themoon66 · 01/08/2007 19:58

Take him out and get him pissed... see if that loosens his tongue.

Kaz33 · 01/08/2007 20:00

I had a boyfriend just like that when I was in my 20's - he was totally gorgeous, drop dead to look at and amazing body

But he was so boring, I kept in there for a while thinking that there must be something hidden away. But there wasn't, I was just too smart for him.

Maybe he really doesn't have much to say.

LaDiDaDi · 01/08/2007 20:02

I wonder if it's possible that this guy has Aspergers?

May explain why he seems nice but is unable to connect to you on an emotional level, ie empathy at the death of your Grandmother? Also could explain why he's had difficulties with relationships in the past.

Just a thought.

Tamz77 · 01/08/2007 20:03

I have mentioned it and he just looked totally bewildered and nothing changed (apart from we started shagging). I have asked him out eg to an exhibition (he said a vague 'yeah' but it never happened and I ended up going on my own), also I have BOUGHT HIM A TICKET to see a DJ we both like in August, to which I got another vague 'yeah' if his mum can babysit that night, and he's not mentioned it since I asked him, which was weeks ago. Also he has put off/cancelled LOADS of things that I have suggested inc. stuff with our kids (both boys, the same age, hence my

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EricGallagher · 01/08/2007 20:03

I'd love a fuck buddy right now.

Sigh

BreeVanDerCampLGJ · 01/08/2007 20:04

Eric

Did the posty come and see you today ??

BreeVanDerCampLGJ · 01/08/2007 20:05

I meant with the parcel I sent you, not as F**K buddy....

expatinscotland · 01/08/2007 20:06

Tam, he's just not that into you.

It sounds like he's not into anyone.

Do yourself a favour, find someone who likes you.

themoon66 · 01/08/2007 20:06

Where is the mother of his child?

Tamz77 · 01/08/2007 20:07

I know what a fuck buddy is, if you want to be pedantic about it then he's been an oral sex buddy for seven weeks and a fuck buddy for one week. Whatever the specifics there's been no physical activity outside my bedroom in 2 months.

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EricGallagher · 01/08/2007 20:07

Ha ha ha ha ha

Cracking x-posting

Nope, nothing today.

EricGallagher · 01/08/2007 20:08

"oral sex buddy for seven weeks"

Right that's enough bragging young lady

expatinscotland · 01/08/2007 20:09

Not being pedantic, just being realistic.

You've been asking him out, suggesting things, etc. and he's NOT interested in going. It took you two months to get him into bed.

You are wasting your time. But it's yours to waste.

He won't change. He hasn't changed for anyone else, that's why he's 'dumped' all the time. I'd be willing to wager he wasn't so much dumped as the women just finally gave up in exasperation.

Tamz77 · 01/08/2007 20:09

His 2 serious relationships inc the mother of his child both left him for other men. The only other one I know about was that weird 9 months of chastity one.

Aspergers had crossed my mind actually.

Not being that into me has crossed my mind too, but why would someone keep coming back? I don't get it, if I wasn't that into someone I just wouldn't see them!?! Am I just feckin old fashioned or something?!?

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raspberryberet · 01/08/2007 20:13

He keeps coming back because you keep sleeping with him. He's certainly not offering you anything else other than sex, is he.

He can only treat you like this if you continue to let him.

KristinaM · 01/08/2007 20:15

apart from being beautiful, i dont understand what you see in him. you had to beg him to sleep with you?????

Tamz77 · 01/08/2007 20:17

I don't think that after 4 years lost in a sexually Siberian landscape I am capable of dumping someone who is this hot. Maybe I should stop moaning and just enjoy the good stuff, like some of you have said. I'd love to talk to him properly about it but how can you start a 'proper' conversation with someone who doesn't even ask how your day's been?

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raspberryberet · 01/08/2007 20:24

But he's not hot, is he?

He's good looking, and that's it. He's not into you, he's not into going out to places with you, he's not interested in your feelings, he wasn't even that interested in sex until you got the killer lingerie out.

Why is that "hot"? You really are sounding as if you are basing the whole relationship, and his whole appeal to you, on the way he looks.

LadyMacbeth · 01/08/2007 20:27

He sounds just like one of my exes... I wish I'd seen through his gorgeous looks and not wasted so much time hoping he'd change. (sigh...)

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