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Please help - used and abused by boss at work

60 replies

Whydidibuy · 01/07/2019 22:02

Apologies that this may be long. I feel very confused and I am not sure how to behave from here.

I am a single mother and working in a big corporate company in a chief of staff position reporting to the CEO. It was a position I had to fight and work hard for and it is a very competitive environment where there is always someone to replace you. The CEO is a charismatic man and over the last 6 months has both seduced and completely completely confused and upset me with his behaviour. He is divorced with 4 children.

It started with several business trips we had to do together. We travelled extensively with very tight and packed schedules and he made them more like holidays. I opened up to him about my life and he about his. During one of the trips he confessed that he had feelings for me / wanted to “be” with me, as he said it. I was really surprised as there is an age difference (20 years.) I politely and (I thought subtlety and successfully) brushed him off on the trip. Ie saying “but we work together, you’re very nice but it’s not appropriate etc”

But when we came back to the office he was horrible to me. He would unprovoked tell me off and criticise me in emails, cc-ing in 20 people and exclude me from meetings I had previously been part of. It was a total shock to me as when we said goodbye at the airport we had given each other a big hug and were quite emotional, and then to have this 3 hours later.

After this he began to wildly swing between being very nice to me and bringing me in on important company stuff and giving me opportunities, and back to excluding me from meetings and getting angry with me for nothing in front of other employees. If you asked anyone at our company they would say that from what they see he is not very nice to me at all.

When I confronted him about this in private he told me that he was “protecting” me because it might damage my career if people felt that he had a “soft spot” for me. At the same time as devaluing me in public, he was privately giving me a pay rise and other opportunities.

I confided in a friend who had worked in a similar dynamic before. She said that this was a “classic” situation, and people either quit or find a way to make it work, ie to be able to carry on working with someone on a blatant power trip.

The inconsistency and never knowing how I was going to be treated got to the point where I started to think that my life would be easier if I gave him a bit of what he wanted. So i snogged him. Yes, I know, stupid idea. And it just got worse. The swings got more extreme, the contact became more sexual and intense and then with long periods of not being in contact at all where I was wondering if I had done something wrong or where he was or if he was just going to walk in and fire me.

After the snogging incident he sat me down and said he felt “scared” and that was the reason he was behaving erratically. I said why, you don’t have to feel scared. He said I am worried that it will ruin my reputation that I am trying to have a relationship with someone junior to me. I’ve got everything on the line and you could destroy me overnight. I obviously reassured him that would not happen. But he continued to blow hot and cold both with work and personally.

In my position I am having to be in contact with him a lot and act as a filter between him and others, every single day and at the weekend, which means I need to ask a lot of questions and get a lot of feedback from him. Since our contact became more sexual he has now used this as a way to control me - ie either disappearing off the map for days, being “busy” and not giving me answers so I am having to pursue him or wait for him to give me time, or be more sexual and flirtatious in my contact in order to get answers to things.

Talking sexually and being flirtatious soon became the only way to make it work or communicate with him. He insinuated several times that there were other people who could take my job easily and that I was replaceable. I began to feel very insecure and competitive.

I asked to speak to him privately and spent an evening telling him how I felt for the record. I said I didn’t want to feel like I had to sleep with him in order to be successful and I wanted to feel that he cared for me, for my career and thought I was a good employee. I told him that he needed to set a boundary with me between work and personal and not cross it.

He said you’re right you’re right. I have led you on. I am very sorry. From now on it’s just going to be work and I am going to take care of you and make you successful. He also said “I am sorry for rejecting you” (he is deluded. That is the level of his delusion.) I was very relieved about this and felt that I’d finally got through to him and that I could go back to a normal work life and that he at least felt that he had rejected me, so couldn’t blame me or treat me badly.

48 hours later he bombarded me with calls saying he’d made a “big mistake.” That as soon as I walked away he realised that he wanted me and that he would do whatever it would take to have me. This made me depressed.

Anyway fast forward to now, I have done some more sexual stuff with him ( we haven’t slept together) I am attracted to him, yes, but he is blatantly, obviously, not a nice person at all. I feel like I’ve been pulled into a web where I don’t even know what my own feelings are anymore. Work has taken over my life and I am consumed with his business, his diary. his movements and his communication. He makes plans at the last minute and I have to fit in around them. We were supposed to go on a business trip last week and at the last minute (I was at the airport) he decided to take someone else and has not spoken to me until day when he called asking very patronisingly if I was okay and telling me, all very condescendingly that he is grateful for what I do for him.

Nothing he says adds up. Sometimes he cracks and calls me and leaves voice messages confessing that he is a “terrible person.” Other times he says he is a “pillar of the community.” He is constantly saying that he wants external validation from people and that half of my job is to “keep (his) ego feeling good.”

My self esteem is rock bottom. I feel empty and like he’s taken everything I had to give.

Aside from the obvious “talk to HR” which I am considering. How would you act around him to stop this? Or to at least preserve some dignity? It’s almost like he’s twisted it and made it seem like I was the one who seduced him. Do you think he sounds like he has a personality disorder?

OP posts:
SonataDentata · 01/07/2019 22:06

I don’t think it matters why he’s acted the way he has. What matters is that he’s mistreated you repeatedly. If I were you, I’d get a new job, block him everywhere and move on with your life. He sounds vile.

roothyk · 01/07/2019 22:08

Keep a detailed record of all communication, set up an email address and email it all over. You might need it if it ever goes to a tribunal. You're being abused by this man. He shouldn't get away with it.

Keaneno1fan · 01/07/2019 22:13

This is awful but i dont see you can do much other than get a new job. I cant see HR will help you...this isnt of course how it should be, but its the reality

Rosemary46 · 01/07/2019 22:18

Do what sonata said.

Yes he is treating you very badly. Butt you are having a consensual sexual relationship with him and realistically you are very unlikely to get a good outcome if you make a complaint about him.

Focus our energy on getting a new job. Then end it with him.

BTW do you have a nanny? Because I’m wondering who cares for your children while you go on these frequent, last minute, overseas trips.

PicsInRed · 01/07/2019 22:24

You were groomed, he is a predator.
This isn't your fault, he has used psychological techniques to push your boundaries and shoehorn you into a relationship with him in a way that resulted in you not knowing your own feelings anymore.

He has exploited something vulnerable in you and I think that you might benefit from the Freedom Programme - to help make this less likely - unfortunately, being abused and exploited does change us in little ways which provide a "tell" to the next abuser, causing a cascade of targeting and subsequent abusive relationships. Hopefully the information you gain in the Freedom Programme can prevent this happening again.

I'm afraid the only realistic solution is to find a new job. I'm so sorry. Flowers

SignedUpJust4This · 01/07/2019 22:27

The only person whose job is at stake here is his and he knows it.

bluebell34567 · 01/07/2019 22:29

your title is correct he has been abusing and messing with you.
he sounds sick in the head.
you cant continue like that, you will become very ill.
you have to have all your evidence, voice messages, etc. keep a very good diary.

category12 · 01/07/2019 22:30

You need a new job. The time to talk to HR is long gone.

bluebell34567 · 01/07/2019 22:33

he isnt deluded, thats what he will say to other people.

Lemoneeza · 01/07/2019 22:38

been in similar position. the only favourable outcome for you is to leave asap.
good luck Flowers

namechanger0064 · 01/07/2019 22:40

I disagree with everyone. Gather proof and take to HR. He is abusing his position and comprising you both. Whether you stay or go this should be escalated.

Goodnightchristopherrobin · 01/07/2019 22:41

Something very similar happened to me! I got a new job! Flowers

Whydidibuy · 01/07/2019 22:46

Thank you for your replies.

There is a vulnerable part of me that does feel rejected. But then the adult part of me with DC who has been through this before in different ways (past abusive relationships) I know on some level that he is doing this to me because of that.

I feel embarrassed to have fallen for the same dynamic again, just as I thought I was getting my life back together by going back to work and making my own money.

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Whatisthisfuckery · 01/07/2019 22:49

what you have on your hands I’m afraid, is a narcissist, and the only way to deal with a narcissist is to get as far away as possible. Unfortunately senior management is full of them. Whatever you do you will lose, He can’t be reasoned with and you can’t beat him at his own game, you just need to find a new job.

fussygalore118 · 01/07/2019 22:52

Honestly I think you need a new job.

Musti · 01/07/2019 22:53

It sounds awful. I would look for a new job asap. Have you still got all or a lot of his messages? If you do then I would also definitely go to HR. Hugs lovely and hope it gets sorted out xx

Twoody1 · 01/07/2019 22:53

He sounds like he is on drugs .

tinyvulture · 01/07/2019 22:59

My arse, does OP have to resign.... This man has extorted sexual contact out of her, using his power in the work place. OP, none of this is your fault! And it’s an old, old story. But there are laws in place to protect you, should you choose to invoke them. Of course, you may feel you don’t have the emotional energy for that..... But if you choose to stay, of course speak to HR, and tell them exactly what you have told us..... I repeat, NONE of this is your fault. It is the fault of the bullying cunt who is abusing you. Good luck!

TalkinAboutManetManet · 01/07/2019 22:59

BTW do you have a nanny? Because I’m wondering who cares for your children while you go on these frequent, last minute, overseas trips

Are you equally curious about who is caring for his children while he’s away?

OP, speaking to HR is an idea but you will have to formally do so, and following the company policy in terms of raising a complaint of harassment. It’s worth having a think about what you hope to achieve. Sadly, making a complaint against someone like you’ve described could be very tough on you.

Whydidibuy · 01/07/2019 23:00

I just looked up grooming. You are right picsinred, I’ve been groomed

What do I do now?

OP posts:
category12 · 01/07/2019 23:04

If you've been initiating sexual/flirty talk in order to get his responses, then it's going to be hard to prove he's manipulated you.

You need a new job.

Whywonttheyletmeusemyusername · 01/07/2019 23:05

This is really familiar to me....I know a man just like this. And its almost word for word. The situation is difficult....if you're in the kind of industry where your reputation precedes you, he won't think twice about wrecking it.

FuriousVexation · 01/07/2019 23:10

Find a solicitor, because this is one of the most open and shut cases of sexual harassment I've heard of.

Keep EVERY message from text/mail from him.

Understand that many career paths are controlled by misogynistic men and therefore speaking up for yourself may retard your career prospects but massively enhance your self worth

SonataDentata · 02/07/2019 00:41

Some of you are very naive. I’ve seen a situation where a junior member of staff was raped by someone much more senior, with the police involved. She was paid off with a compromise agreement and he stayed. The more senior person almost always wins, and to preserve your dignity and sanity it’s often better to remove yourself from the situation. I know it’s fucking shit but it’s the reality, unfortunately.

SonataDentata · 02/07/2019 00:42

(Having said that, I agree with the advice to keep copies of all messages etc as it could be useful leverage)