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Please help - used and abused by boss at work

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Whydidibuy · 01/07/2019 22:02

Apologies that this may be long. I feel very confused and I am not sure how to behave from here.

I am a single mother and working in a big corporate company in a chief of staff position reporting to the CEO. It was a position I had to fight and work hard for and it is a very competitive environment where there is always someone to replace you. The CEO is a charismatic man and over the last 6 months has both seduced and completely completely confused and upset me with his behaviour. He is divorced with 4 children.

It started with several business trips we had to do together. We travelled extensively with very tight and packed schedules and he made them more like holidays. I opened up to him about my life and he about his. During one of the trips he confessed that he had feelings for me / wanted to “be” with me, as he said it. I was really surprised as there is an age difference (20 years.) I politely and (I thought subtlety and successfully) brushed him off on the trip. Ie saying “but we work together, you’re very nice but it’s not appropriate etc”

But when we came back to the office he was horrible to me. He would unprovoked tell me off and criticise me in emails, cc-ing in 20 people and exclude me from meetings I had previously been part of. It was a total shock to me as when we said goodbye at the airport we had given each other a big hug and were quite emotional, and then to have this 3 hours later.

After this he began to wildly swing between being very nice to me and bringing me in on important company stuff and giving me opportunities, and back to excluding me from meetings and getting angry with me for nothing in front of other employees. If you asked anyone at our company they would say that from what they see he is not very nice to me at all.

When I confronted him about this in private he told me that he was “protecting” me because it might damage my career if people felt that he had a “soft spot” for me. At the same time as devaluing me in public, he was privately giving me a pay rise and other opportunities.

I confided in a friend who had worked in a similar dynamic before. She said that this was a “classic” situation, and people either quit or find a way to make it work, ie to be able to carry on working with someone on a blatant power trip.

The inconsistency and never knowing how I was going to be treated got to the point where I started to think that my life would be easier if I gave him a bit of what he wanted. So i snogged him. Yes, I know, stupid idea. And it just got worse. The swings got more extreme, the contact became more sexual and intense and then with long periods of not being in contact at all where I was wondering if I had done something wrong or where he was or if he was just going to walk in and fire me.

After the snogging incident he sat me down and said he felt “scared” and that was the reason he was behaving erratically. I said why, you don’t have to feel scared. He said I am worried that it will ruin my reputation that I am trying to have a relationship with someone junior to me. I’ve got everything on the line and you could destroy me overnight. I obviously reassured him that would not happen. But he continued to blow hot and cold both with work and personally.

In my position I am having to be in contact with him a lot and act as a filter between him and others, every single day and at the weekend, which means I need to ask a lot of questions and get a lot of feedback from him. Since our contact became more sexual he has now used this as a way to control me - ie either disappearing off the map for days, being “busy” and not giving me answers so I am having to pursue him or wait for him to give me time, or be more sexual and flirtatious in my contact in order to get answers to things.

Talking sexually and being flirtatious soon became the only way to make it work or communicate with him. He insinuated several times that there were other people who could take my job easily and that I was replaceable. I began to feel very insecure and competitive.

I asked to speak to him privately and spent an evening telling him how I felt for the record. I said I didn’t want to feel like I had to sleep with him in order to be successful and I wanted to feel that he cared for me, for my career and thought I was a good employee. I told him that he needed to set a boundary with me between work and personal and not cross it.

He said you’re right you’re right. I have led you on. I am very sorry. From now on it’s just going to be work and I am going to take care of you and make you successful. He also said “I am sorry for rejecting you” (he is deluded. That is the level of his delusion.) I was very relieved about this and felt that I’d finally got through to him and that I could go back to a normal work life and that he at least felt that he had rejected me, so couldn’t blame me or treat me badly.

48 hours later he bombarded me with calls saying he’d made a “big mistake.” That as soon as I walked away he realised that he wanted me and that he would do whatever it would take to have me. This made me depressed.

Anyway fast forward to now, I have done some more sexual stuff with him ( we haven’t slept together) I am attracted to him, yes, but he is blatantly, obviously, not a nice person at all. I feel like I’ve been pulled into a web where I don’t even know what my own feelings are anymore. Work has taken over my life and I am consumed with his business, his diary. his movements and his communication. He makes plans at the last minute and I have to fit in around them. We were supposed to go on a business trip last week and at the last minute (I was at the airport) he decided to take someone else and has not spoken to me until day when he called asking very patronisingly if I was okay and telling me, all very condescendingly that he is grateful for what I do for him.

Nothing he says adds up. Sometimes he cracks and calls me and leaves voice messages confessing that he is a “terrible person.” Other times he says he is a “pillar of the community.” He is constantly saying that he wants external validation from people and that half of my job is to “keep (his) ego feeling good.”

My self esteem is rock bottom. I feel empty and like he’s taken everything I had to give.

Aside from the obvious “talk to HR” which I am considering. How would you act around him to stop this? Or to at least preserve some dignity? It’s almost like he’s twisted it and made it seem like I was the one who seduced him. Do you think he sounds like he has a personality disorder?

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TeaForTheWin · 02/07/2019 00:52

There is nothing you can do to get him to behave normal or fair towards you as he is not a normal person. He is quite clearly disordered. A narcissist or even a psychopath.

You need to break free of this web and the ONLY way to do this is to leave the job and cut all contact with him. He is going to destroy you if you stay, mentally and professionally.

Cut all contact with any other work colleagues too or he'll only use them to spy on you.

SwordofGryffindor · 02/07/2019 02:00

Dont you dare leave take this to HR

dragonway · 02/07/2019 02:19

He’s the CEO. How on Earth is taking this to HR going to work!! He’s their boss too! Right? He’s in charge of everybody there. It shouldn’t be that way and their are laws but this is the real world. Start applying for other jobs ASAP. Take a few days sick with flu. Get your cv up to date and start pinging it everywhere he doesn’t know anybody. Do not send it anywhere he has friends. You need a new job before he destroys your reputation. When you’ve got some interest be clever. Speak to him and play nice guy. Say you would like to be able to see him but you can’t while working together so you’ll get a new job and then the coast is clear. So give me a fab reference. Only do that when you’ve got a job offer. Once you’re out, cut all contact. When the new company (at interview) ask why you’re looking say that you feel it’s time you spread your wings and are looking for a new opportunity to grow professionally. Do not breathe a word of any issues.

Tinkobell · 02/07/2019 03:03

Yes, I absolutely DO think he has a personality disorder! Extremely self absorbed, self pleasure seeking and narcissistic. No end of therapy sessions could possibly straighten this man out.
I also thinks he wants you simply as a sexual conquest. Shame you got drawn into his stupid game, but you have. He HAS abused his power over you grossly so. However, you are not a kid. You are a grown woman who has become engaged in a consensual sexual relationship with him. If you don't like the stress, you don't like what the future holds.....just quit. Get out quickly before he steals your soul.

Beautiful3 · 02/07/2019 03:12

I would look for another job before you hit rock bottom.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 02/07/2019 03:24

*I just looked up grooming. You are right picsinred, I’ve been groomed

What do I do now?*

Errrr, look for a new job. Now.

Scott72 · 02/07/2019 04:44

The term "grooming" has become inextricably linked with pedofilia hasn't it? It probably isn't appropriate here. This crap is just unacceptable. Even though he's the CEO you still could have gone to the board of directors, perhaps some kind of industry ombudsman? Now you've apparently reciprocated his affections that's going to be much harder. I've heard that many women do find narcissistic men attractive. Probably you're best bet is to find another job.

category12 · 02/07/2019 04:53

If her company has a HR, then she can put them as the referee details (as requests for references would usually end up with them anyway) and no need to involve him at all, surely?

She gets new job, she gives notice, she keeps head down until leaving date and she's gone and free of all this. (I note op has not responded to get a new job as an option.)

Twoody1 · 02/07/2019 04:58

I think the best deterrent for a man like this is to name him and shame him

visitorthedog · 02/07/2019 05:06

You need to take copies of whatever you have, make as many notes as possible and see a solicitor before doing anything at all.

category12 · 02/07/2019 05:09

But basically he's set up a situation where op has been sending him sexual messages/doing sexual things in order to get him to respond to her. So his story will be she's been chasing him and he's been rejecting her and trying to keep it professional, and she's kicking off because of the rejection. He's probably done this before.

In an ideal world, she'd name and shame him and win a HR dispute. Realistically she needs to get herself out of the situation and into another job.

RantyAnty · 02/07/2019 06:22

This story seems familiar. Did you post about this a couple of months ago?

roundbottomflask · 02/07/2019 06:39

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ukgift2016 · 02/07/2019 06:47

Lot of these CEO are power mad and sociopaths.

OP just find another job, this man has his claws sunk into you and if you free yourself from him, he will try to end your career for good. I wouldn't play games with someone of his character.

funnylittlefloozie · 02/07/2019 06:52

If you are actually in a senior, "chief of staff" position, walk away. You will be snapped up for another job in no time. Then, sue your boss for constructive dismissal.

OR.... fight back (this may not be good advice). Get him alone, tell him to give you a massive pay rise and a board position... or you tell his wife EVERYTHING, plus you go to tribunal. Obviously this is blackmail, and you need to be VERY sure of yourself before you go down this route. Its more appealing than bleating about being "groomed", when you are an adult in a consensual sexual relationship, though.

Isleepinahedgefund · 02/07/2019 07:23

Good lord get yourself away from the whole thing. You will never win against someone like that - preserve your sanity and get another job ASAP.

Isleepinahedgefund · 02/07/2019 07:27

Oh and don't even think about appealing to his better nature, because he hasn't got one.

I seem to recall a post very similar a couple of months ago - if that was you then go back and read your other post. You will see that he is escalating his behaviour. He probably won't stop until either you get so far away from him that he has no choice, or he breaks you completely.

You've rejected him, inflicted a narcissist injury and he won't let it go.

Can you see why he is divorced?!!

Piersorgan · 02/07/2019 07:55

Senior heads of staff don't resign for other jobs, they negotiate their exit. It sounds as though you have more than enough to start that process to give you a financial cushion to decide your next career moves.

Need to take learnings though. Get to know your own moral and professional standards compass and understand when that's being approached and develop strategies of handling. Good luck.

NK1cf53daaX127805d4fd5 · 02/07/2019 08:13

What a mess.

Get a new job and start working on your personal and professional boundaries.

Whywonttheyletmeusemyusername · 02/07/2019 08:40

Dragonway and Sonata have it spot on. Sonatas post is exactly what happened to the woman before me.

SparklyMagpie · 02/07/2019 09:04

Crikey! I don't know what to suggest apart from another job. If he has messages, e-mails whatever from you of a sexual nature, then surely he'd use them if you were to go against him

It's not fair he's allowed to get away with this, but I can't see how this will play out in your favour?

IdblowJonSnow · 02/07/2019 09:13

You will drive yourself mad with this op if you stay.
For your own sanity get another job asap. Then when you're safe you could consider reporting him?

cjloveske · 02/07/2019 09:36

Stand up to bullies. I wish I had done so. I was betrayed by a person who had been a personal friend and I ended up resigning. I wish now that I had not been emotional about it, but had kept evidence and gone to HR. I left a year ago and my life is happier and I would not ever want to be back in that place. The important thing is that whatever you decide to do, you learn from the experience.

Arealhumanbeing · 02/07/2019 10:17

Its more appealing than bleating about being "groomed", when you are an adult in a consensual sexual relationship, though

Fucking idiot. Nice use of the word ‘bleating’ too. Aren’t you clever.

OP ignore this post and others like it. You were groomed and coerced into the sexual “relationship”.

Not your fault. It’s very common in the workplace and it happened to me too. I left (with a pay off) and got therapy and a new job.

Also my new employer is in full possession of the facts relating to why I left my old job and yes, it is in the same industry. It happens, they get that it happens and they wanted me for my skills and experience.

You will survive this and move on from it. Therapy will help you to sort through the experience and let go of any self blame.

Sending love and wishing you the best OP.

Snog · 02/07/2019 10:42

You need to move on from this job OP and find yourself some RL professional support and advice.

HR will not be of any use except to your boss, they are not a neutral party they are very much on his side. The most senior manager always wins, it's unfair yes but thems the rules. You need to negotiate the best departure you can and you will definitely need professional help to do this. What is your industry?