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Best friends secretary always rude to me.

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Toddlerteaplease · 16/06/2019 15:10

We've been friends for years. He was promoted and moved to another city about 5 years ago. He inherited a secretary who has been in the role since the 1950's. I've always been nice to her. But recently shoes stated being really rude to me when I go to visit. Bother their offices are in his home so she makes me feel very unwelcome. It was his birthday the other day and he invited me to something he does each week. And she was complaining to him about me being there.
He usually will stick up for me, and he did but it really spoiled the day. They are friends but as his secretary I think she's massively overstepping the boundaries. How do I deal with it, without being petty.

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SleepingStandingUp · 16/06/2019 17:12

You said your much younger than her. How old is he? Perhaps she thinks you're fwb and it's inappropriate given the age gap / job role.

Also how often are you round? If you're going in and she's having to rearrange work stuff etc I can see it being annoying. Also if she's having to run around after you - surely it isn't the 90 yo secretary's job to answer the door too??

Toddlerteaplease · 16/06/2019 17:19

It's not at all a one sided friendship at all. Hopefully she'll retire soon.

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Toddlerteaplease · 16/06/2019 17:22

I don't go up that often and I definitely come second to the job and work commitments are not affected and that s hoe it should be. That must always come first. She does answer the door as her office is next to it. There is definitely nothing going on!

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Toddlerteaplease · 16/06/2019 17:22

I don't expect her to run around after me. I make my own cups of tea and offer her one too.

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poopypants · 16/06/2019 22:00

Enquire after her health. Keep telling her she looks unwell and that you are concerned. Shower her with faux care Grin

Toddlerteaplease · 16/06/2019 22:31

Good idea!

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burnyburny · 16/06/2019 22:35

I wouldn't. She's 80 years old. You said this has only been a recent thing. Somethings changed. Maybe there is a a reason she is acting like she is.

123rd · 16/06/2019 22:44

When I say 'kill ' her with kindness I don't mean it literally Wink but every time you have contact with her just be so so sweet. She will hate it

Cilleen · 16/06/2019 22:59

She’s not ‘working him too hard’ — he’s the boss! Ignore her. She’s just staff.

LoeweMulberry · 16/06/2019 23:32

Yeh'd I"d ignore it. Say ''can I have a cup of tea please''. But just contact him on his mobile. Are you popping in to his office all the time?

CanBlondesWearMustard · 16/06/2019 23:38

Priest and housekeeper?

Just be ever so sweet to her. I presume she's not actually stopping you going into the house? Make peace with the idea that she doesn't have to like you and her opinion on you doesn't matter.

springydaff · 17/06/2019 00:49

You offer her a cup of tea? I can see why she may be pissed off with you - it's her domain and it's for her to offer you tea, not you her.

Know your place kind of thing. Perhaps she finds it challenging that you seem to have your feet under the table when she's been running the show for ever. Doesn't take kindly to a whippersnapper usurping her role.

RantyAnty · 17/06/2019 02:59

Maybe that is what is wrong. You're supposed to wait for her to offer you copious amounts of tea, cake, and sandwiches to which you say no; and then she says go on, go on, go on, and then you accept. Grin

Toddlerteaplease · 17/06/2019 06:45

I like drinking out of a pint mug. Good job she's not clocked that the huge mug in the cupboard is actually mine!

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eddielizzard · 17/06/2019 07:05

I'd let it go tbh. She obvs doesn't like you swanning in like you belong there. She feels she belongs there more than you, and I can see why. I'd carry on ignoring...

TitianaTitsling · 17/06/2019 07:41

@RubberTreePlant also has shades of Rutshire!

maslinpan · 17/06/2019 07:57

You are obviously there an awful lot if you have your own mug in the cupboard! I am beginning to see that she might feel a bit fed up with your constant social visits.

Toddlerteaplease · 17/06/2019 08:01

I'm there probably once a month on average. Usually at weekends when she's not around. So she doesn't see me that often. I think I'll just have to ignore her as I'm not going anywhere! Feel better for having a rant though.

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Toddlerteaplease · 17/06/2019 08:02

He needs friends around him. As he has little support up there.

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Toddlerteaplease · 17/06/2019 08:09

My visits are always pre arranged. I would never turn up unannounced.

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HarryHenderson · 17/06/2019 08:35

@RantyAnty 😂 exactly what I was picturing!

Cilleen · 17/06/2019 08:54

Honestly, the dynamic you're describing sounds a bit like a dominating mother and a girlfriend fighting over who takes better care of some guy... Priests (male ones) have a weird effect on some women, who seem to have an urge to 'look after' them. I have never once seen this with a female priest.

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 17/06/2019 09:16

Is it not more likely that she's annoyed that you turn up often and mess up the schedules she's made because he doesn't give her any idea of what's going on? I can't see why she'd be jealous from what you've said.

She's elderly, still working and presumably trying to keep your friend on track. It would be frustrating for anyone to have someone keep messing up the schedules; and it probably means she has to keep rearranging things and recreating schedules. Again this is more his fault than yours, but if you've now decided that she must be jealous and the atmosphere is hostile, you're probably both rather unhappy.

If I'm honest, I'd consider whether he's really putting an equal amount of effort in here before I asked him to talk to her, because from what you've said, this has become rather one-sided in terms of effort (not necessarily friendship) and that may be feeding into this weird fighting-over-him dynamic that's been created.

If he is, try rolling back that dynamic and the atmosphere first, turn up smiley and talkative, don't expect a response, be very friendly and see if you can win her over with kindness for his sake. If that doesn't work, he can talk to her - you can't - and see what the issue is.

Toddlerteaplease · 17/06/2019 09:30

I think you are both right. Although I never mess up his schedule. I fit round it. As The job has to come first and thats how it's been ever since I've known him. I'll just carry on being nice to her and just ignore any comments.

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Nesssie · 17/06/2019 09:34

Why is everyone saying she should have retired by now? What if she enjoys the job and wants to stay active?

And @Dippypippy1980 can you explain why working in the same job for 65 years (presumably one she enjoys and fits in with her life) makes her a 'poor woman'?

Utterly bizarre responses.

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