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What am I doing wrong?

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PleaseDontTakeMySunshineAway · 02/06/2019 15:02

I'm mid 40s. Single for around 8 years apart from a few short flings and content to stay that way, although I would like to see myself in a relationship with someone one day.

The problem I find, repeatedly, is this.

I'm just not what men are looking for. I know, I know, men aren't a homogenous group; I don't need to find hundreds of men who are 'looking for' me, just the one; beauty comes from the inside and all that but I keep having the same recurring issue. They seem to like and be attracted to 'me' but equally seem to be embarrassed to be seen with me and don't seem to find me physically attractive. I've only ever been with one man who I genuinely believed was attracted to me, physically as well as mentally, and it showed.

My relationships have all failed because they've 'struggled' with this and I've got too much self respect to hang around until they manage to come to terms with being with me so I end them.

I feel I'm on a journey to becoming the 'best version of me' and have been on it for the past 8 years. I'm almost unrecognisable from the person I was a decade ago for the better.

In that time, I've met and dated a few men. One of them was very recently. All of them have really liked 'me' but there have been 'tells' that something wasn't quite right.

From suggesting I lose weight even when well within the 'healthy' range; to refusing to introduce me to friends; to not wanting to be seen with me in public locally to their home; to keeping their eyes closed throughout sex (presumably to think of someone else, I don't know!); to avoiding us being seen together by ex gfs; to not being easily sexually aroused when with me; to walking 6 feet in front of me when we were out and not speaking to me; to avoiding all forms of affection in public when I know that they are not generally averse to it.

I so often read on here women reassuring each other that it's what's on the inside that counts but my fragile confidence is being constantly hit by these experiences and I just don't know what I'm doing wrong.

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waterrat · 03/06/2019 21:16

oh and I should add - this is not your fault! You are carrying a huge burden around from your childhood - but therapy really does work. I was able to completely change my thinking in relationships and find a man I trusted and actually trust him. It saved me/ changed my life. Truly.

rememberatime · 03/06/2019 22:12

Your body sounds very much like mine. Size 18 bum, short legs and a size 14 elsewhere. I always hated my bum and no matter how much weight I lost I was perpetually pear shaped.

As I got older I started to appreciate it more. I learned that a pear shaped is more fertile, we are less likely to suffer with period problems, we carry our weight in a safer place compared to on our stomach and around our organs.

I am aware that my bum stands out a mile, but Iv'e learned to embrace it in the way I dress. I wear fitted tops with nipped in waist and curvy bottoms. Fact is all bottoms will fit me tightly.

I bring it up with new men very early - often before we meet. I talk about my arse as if it is the best thing about me. I get them to the stage they are desperate to see it (let alone touch it). I've been told I have a magnificent arse on more than one occasion and it's the first thing a man will grab if I allow him to get close to me :)

Ive weeded out the ones who dislike a curvy woman before they even get to the dating stage (this is why online dating can be good - you can chat to them for a while before meeting).

Small breasts and waist and huge bummer and thighs is a thing. It's less common than other shapes, but it's a good shape to be and trust me, men love it.

rememberatime · 03/06/2019 22:13

*bum... obvs

PleaseDontTakeMySunshineAway · 04/06/2019 07:51

You need someone who loves you, respects you, who treats you with kindness, laughs with you, who has your back, who supports you when you are down and who will accept your reasonable support in return

See, I thought this most recent man was this. He ticked all of those things. I think he really liked me. I just don't think he was attracted to me physically as much as I would like someone to be. He didn't criticise my body at all but he didn't make me feel like he desired me particularly either. But I think he considered this to be respectful - he wanted me to know that sex wasn't all he was interested in me for.

You don't sound harsh minmooch I think I'm going to look at counselling but I find it hard to see how that's going to change the way I see myself. I have had counselling in the past but not in recent years and not for this - I think I just accepted it as a sad truth tbh.

Emerald Only one man has ever fancied me "like crazy" Grin so I don't think there's much chance of that happening! Thanks for the suggestion but I really can't think of anything less appealling than online dating. I did it for a while a few years ago and hated the whole thing.

Thank you Namastbae Flowers

waterrat Thanks. Your post made a lot of sense. I know that in the past I have made poor choices in men for precisely the reasons you give. I think that is what I am struggling about with this most recent man.

I was aware when we met that he was not the sort of man I'd have looked at even 2 years ago. I'd have dismissed him outright as being 'too good' for me. When we met and started seeing each other, I didn't feel he was too good for me; I felt that he was a good man who I deserved.

I don't think he was habitually eyeing up other women - like I say, I only noticed it happening twice and he wasn't overt or trying to catch their attention - it was purely a glance and he did apologise rather than tell me it was normal and I had a problem for example. But it made me realise that he was noticing in them what I lack in myself and that was just too much for me. Even when I mentioned to him, he responded, mostly, in the way I would have wanted/expected him to but it was enough for me to accept that he wasn't sufficiently attracted to me and 'switch off'.

He didn't say crass things; he was very respectful in many ways. He ticked a lot of my boxes. He did show 'love' and was very attentive. I just don't think he fancied me. I think he was probably just a bit disappointed by how I look.

I can see where the other men I have dated in recent years were a bit shoddy and, as soon as I realised, I ended it at the time. But this last one, I really thought I had found a good, honest, trustworthy man and I believe he is those things tbh - obviously I can't give every detail here. I just don't think the way he felt about me phyiscally matched the way he felt about me emotionally and mentally. It got harder towards the end because I was withdrawing from him and he was still trying but I just couldn't do it.

remember That sounds like you've had pretty amazing experiences!! I would say that I'm currently a 12/14 - depending on where I shop. I tend to wear stretchy, jersey wrap dress type things because they are just most comfortable. From the front, I appear to have almost an hour glass figure - my hips are about the same width as my shoulders and, since putting on a bit of weight, I look more in proportion. But I do carry a bit of extra weight on my thighs and my bum is definitely round rather than 'just' big. I'm just generally a bit fat too at the moment tbh.

I think I would like to one day believe that I have a 'magnificent arse'! You are definitely getting something right!! Grin

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minmooch · 04/06/2019 08:16

I think you may have been too harsh on your last man. I am with a wonderful man now, love him to bits etc but that doesn't mean I don't find any other man attractive. I choose not to act on it because my love and loyalties lie with my partner. I can also appreciate the beauty of a woman and would not expect my partner to be blind to it. He chooses to be with me though.

I would not accept overt ogling and flirting but an appreciation of someone else wouldn't bother me.

I think counselling would help you. It gives you private safe space to talk about and explore why you feel these things with a professional who can help guide you to a healthier opinion of yourself.

Divinelyuninspired · 04/06/2019 09:01

You know no one has a perfect body don’t you? Unless you are a supermodel dating other models, this is real life.

Like a pp said, we all make compromises when we couple up with someone. I remember meeting a new colleague and thinking what tiny eyes he had and how I could never be attracted to him. I ended up in a year long relationship with him. He also had a huge scar across his chest from open heart surgery. When I knew him, it didn’t matter.

I also think you were harsh about your last man.

PleaseDontTakeMySunshineAway · 04/06/2019 23:39

Sad Maybe I was.

I'm going to look into counselling this week and see what I can find.

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minmooch · 05/06/2019 12:40

Hope you find a good counsellor @PleaseDontTakeMySunshineAway. I'm sure you will find it very helpful.

Keep posting here for support.

Sosayi · 05/06/2019 19:01

I have to ask Is your ass like KK 😂.

Big asses are a thing right now ,woman have implants to make there bums bigger as I’m sure you know .

Honestly I think you need therapy of some sort not just for the ass issues but to get back your self esteem

I have a big ass and a small waist and big thighs I used to hate it when I was younger now I love it and don’t even think about it

My DH is always grabbing it and touching my ass even after 20 plus years of marriage
He happily admits that my ass and the shape of it was what attracted him to me first and this was years ago
It was a bonus that I have a pretty face 😂😂 I think he would have still married me just for my ass 😂

PleaseDontTakeMySunshineAway · 07/06/2019 20:55

Not quite... Sosayi

It's just common or garden round and fleshy Sad

It's not enormous.

But big enough.

I just don't feel attractive or sexy. Largely because, although I personally don't feel too badly about it, I'm aware that men just don't find it attractive.

I don't even have a pretty face Grin

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