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Am I in a controlling relationship as he states otherwise?

53 replies

monica19 · 28/05/2019 15:41

I really need some advice or help as I can’t seem to come to a conclusion myself on what to do next, I feel so stuck, trapped and suffocated in my relationship. I’ve been in a relationship with my daughter’s father for 5 years. She will be 3 soon. Ever since we had a baby he became a lot more controlling. Initially before we had her he would tell me what I could or could not wear, would tell me to change my clothes if he didn’t like it (he still does this now) he would get angry if I spoke to any other guy whether it was a colleague or friend. Would also dictate who I should speak to or spend my time with and what I can share with my friends and family to the point that I literally have not seen any of my friends in about 2 years.

When I was pregnant he didn’t want me to tell anyone until a certain point and didn’t allow me to decide that for myself. He wouldn’t let me post any photos of me being pregnant as apparently it’s our journey and no one else’s and didn’t care what I had to say. When my daughter was born I was so ecstatic I wanted to message my friends but he wouldn’t let me. Then the real hell began. He started timing when I breastfed, telling me when my daughter had, had enough and scolding me consistently for nearly 6 months on how I breastfeed too much and that he knows better. He only stopped when I told him to do so and stood up for myself. But he made sure to make me feel bad about it. He also wanted to know everywhere we went, my daughter and I and didn’t want me posting any photos of her or sharing photos of her with family or friends. Didn’t want anyone holding the baby and constantly questioned everything I did. His excuse was it was his way of being involved and making sure he’s a part of our life.

To this day he still does all of this and more, constantly disagreeing with me on how to parent as apparently I’m too loving and too soft. He believes in harsh discipline and now my daughter is getting older and having tantrums as young children do he literally gets so angry every time she cries and tells her repeatedly to stop crying rather than comforting or trying to emphasise with her as he says he can’t deal with a crying toddler. He blows up all the time about minuscule random things and I feel like I’m constantly on egg shells. He has no idea how to look after our daughter and when he does watch her his priority is not to feed her but be on his phone most of the time.

He also is adamant about raising our daughter Christian even though I am agnostic and he won’t even let me have a say on her spiritual upbringing as apparently I don’t even have a faith or any spiritual motive so I shouldn’t have a say.

There’s so much more to this but I just don’t know what to do anymore. I don’t trust him with our daughter even though he always says he has her best interest at heart but if we split up he’s adamant he will have her every weekend. I want what’s best for our daughter which is to have a relationship with her dad but not at the cost of me being in a controlling relationship.

OP posts:
twattymctwatterson · 28/05/2019 15:44

Of course he is. You know he is. What he's doing is highly abusive. What do you want to do about it?

MrsDilligaf · 28/05/2019 16:04

He sounds awful. You know his actions are controlling, you know he will not improve his behaviour so please don't underestimate the effect that it will have on both you and your DD.

It doesn't sound like yours is a happy marriage - I hope you can find the strength to do what you need to do to ensure a happy future for you and your DD.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 28/05/2019 16:06

Please keep reaching out and asking for help eg from women's aid.
This sounds like coercive control.

You don't have to live like this.
Your child deserves to know you at your best.

Optimist1 · 28/05/2019 16:10

Reading just the first half of your first paragraph leads me to the same conclusion as PPs - he is controlling you.

floraloctopus · 28/05/2019 16:12

He's way beyond controlling, he's extremely abusive.

AuditAngel · 28/05/2019 16:16

He is so controlling that you doubt your ability to discern if his behaviour is controlling.

It is. Leave him

Magenta82 · 28/05/2019 16:18

You need to leave.
You need to protect yourself and your daughter.
There are some great resources on here for women leaving abusive partners, please make use of them.

Hadalifeonce · 28/05/2019 16:22

This is seriously beyond controlling, please get yourself some support IRL.

CostanzaG · 28/05/2019 16:25

He is very abusive. You need to leave for you and for your daughter.

Pumpkintopf · 28/05/2019 16:26

My goodness. Yes op he absolutely is controlling, and abusive. Do you feel like you need more help IRL to believe that - if so Women's Aid freedom programme or 'Why does he do that' book by Lundy Bancroft both great resources.

Do you have anyone you could talk to about this? I understand he has tried to isolate you from friends and family but do you have anyone who would respond if you reached out?

What would you like to happen?

CodenameVillanelle · 28/05/2019 16:27

He's an abusive partner and bordering on an abusive father. If you can't get away for yourself then do it for your daughter. He will ruin her life if you don't.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 28/05/2019 16:31

What the other respondents have written. He is out and out abusive and is saying and doing all the usual things such abusers do to keep you and in turn his child in line. He does not give a fig for his child; he is using the threat of having her every weekend because he knows she is your achilles heel. He will use your child to punish you.

He will ruin both your lives if you do not leave this man. He is not a fit person to be around either you or your child because of his abuse of you and in turn she. Neither of you are safe around this man and you need a refuge place.

Your daughter cannot afford to grow up thinking this is how men treat women.

Atalune · 28/05/2019 16:34

Call Woman’s Aid.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 28/05/2019 16:38

Their number is 0808 2000 247.

monica19 · 28/05/2019 16:42

Thanks for all your input and advice. I have never shared any of this with anyone including family so it’s somewhat comforting to know that I’m not the only one who thinks he is controlling as I felt like I was going crazy and in denial due to him constantly telling me that he is not being controlling and simply doing what is best. How do I go about leaving him and how do I know he won’t try to get full custody of our daughter? I’m so scared at how separation will over complicate an already complicated relationship.

OP posts:
Kittypillar · 28/05/2019 16:43

Absolutely he is controlling and abusive. You and your daughter deserve a much better life than that. Flowers

81Byerley · 28/05/2019 16:43

You have a choice. Your little girl does not. Please leave before he causes permanent damage to her.

81Byerley · 28/05/2019 16:44

Call Womens Aid.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 28/05/2019 16:47

He is 100% controlling. this link tells you what control is in the eyes of the law - three out of the first four bullets are things he does to you, and I'd bet he controls your money too.

How you get out is with support. Contact Woman's Aid as a first port of call, they will have seen it all and will have advice to keep you safe while you make a plan. He won't get custody of your daughter (though he will tell you over and over again that he will, that no-one will believe you and that the courts will give her to him), but it's very important that you have a 'paper trail' of the way he behaves so he doesn't get away with lying at a later court date.

Keep safe. Delete your search history so he can't see this thread. Get help.

Atalune · 28/05/2019 16:49

Call them now. You can leave but get some solid advice before you do.

ComeAndDance · 28/05/2019 16:51

It took me only the first paragraph to know he is controlling. Obviously it has got even worse since your dd was born.

Contact Women Aid for some help in how to leave in a safe manner. Talk to your ur parents and family. Tell them what has been going on. Tell your friends too. And get RL support.

Walkamileinmyshoesbeforeujudge · 28/05/2019 16:52

You have posted before. You claimed he was a good df. I replied that a good df wouldn't starve his baby.
He is nuts and you need to leave. Preferably without him knowing or finding out where you are....

RuffleCrow · 28/05/2019 16:52

Really important to go to Womens aid and your local domestic abuse service. Tell your health visitor. Confide in all the professionals you feel comfortable confiding in. This is essential for two reasons: a) it's support for you as they will all have training in how to help you and b) it creates a vital evidence trail. You will need this to access legal aid if you're on a low income and the solicitor you choose will then be able to compile this evidence to present a strong case in the family courts as to why he should not have unsupervised access.

You should also be aware that what he is doing to you is now a criminal offence (coercive control) and hopefully the other agencies mentioned will support you to speak to them. When it comes to care of your daughter the family courts will put particular weight on any court and or social services involvement due to domestic or child abuse so it is in your interests and your daughter's to speak to both and tell them what he's doing. Sadly, a woman's testimony alone is never enough - you will absolutely need these agencies backing you up.

Whatever you do, cover your tracks and DO NOT TELL HIM ANYTHING. Your only loyalty now is to yourself and your daughter and statistically this is now the most dangerous time for you both.

Lemoneeza · 28/05/2019 16:55

Another saying this is definitely abusive behaviour. Please contact womens aid when it is safe to do so. Good luck. You and your daughter deserve a full happy life free from fear and they can help you get there x

floraloctopus · 28/05/2019 16:55

Collect all the financial paperwork you can, get your important ID together and your daughter's birth certificate, passports etc. Get together any money in the house, if you have your own bank account change all the passwords. If you can put money from the joint account into your account do so. Make sure you have your bank cards to access your money.
See a solicitor, women's aid can advise you on this.

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