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Am I in a controlling relationship as he states otherwise?

53 replies

monica19 · 28/05/2019 15:41

I really need some advice or help as I can’t seem to come to a conclusion myself on what to do next, I feel so stuck, trapped and suffocated in my relationship. I’ve been in a relationship with my daughter’s father for 5 years. She will be 3 soon. Ever since we had a baby he became a lot more controlling. Initially before we had her he would tell me what I could or could not wear, would tell me to change my clothes if he didn’t like it (he still does this now) he would get angry if I spoke to any other guy whether it was a colleague or friend. Would also dictate who I should speak to or spend my time with and what I can share with my friends and family to the point that I literally have not seen any of my friends in about 2 years.

When I was pregnant he didn’t want me to tell anyone until a certain point and didn’t allow me to decide that for myself. He wouldn’t let me post any photos of me being pregnant as apparently it’s our journey and no one else’s and didn’t care what I had to say. When my daughter was born I was so ecstatic I wanted to message my friends but he wouldn’t let me. Then the real hell began. He started timing when I breastfed, telling me when my daughter had, had enough and scolding me consistently for nearly 6 months on how I breastfeed too much and that he knows better. He only stopped when I told him to do so and stood up for myself. But he made sure to make me feel bad about it. He also wanted to know everywhere we went, my daughter and I and didn’t want me posting any photos of her or sharing photos of her with family or friends. Didn’t want anyone holding the baby and constantly questioned everything I did. His excuse was it was his way of being involved and making sure he’s a part of our life.

To this day he still does all of this and more, constantly disagreeing with me on how to parent as apparently I’m too loving and too soft. He believes in harsh discipline and now my daughter is getting older and having tantrums as young children do he literally gets so angry every time she cries and tells her repeatedly to stop crying rather than comforting or trying to emphasise with her as he says he can’t deal with a crying toddler. He blows up all the time about minuscule random things and I feel like I’m constantly on egg shells. He has no idea how to look after our daughter and when he does watch her his priority is not to feed her but be on his phone most of the time.

He also is adamant about raising our daughter Christian even though I am agnostic and he won’t even let me have a say on her spiritual upbringing as apparently I don’t even have a faith or any spiritual motive so I shouldn’t have a say.

There’s so much more to this but I just don’t know what to do anymore. I don’t trust him with our daughter even though he always says he has her best interest at heart but if we split up he’s adamant he will have her every weekend. I want what’s best for our daughter which is to have a relationship with her dad but not at the cost of me being in a controlling relationship.

OP posts:
gottastopeatingchocolate · 28/05/2019 17:00

He probably will try to get full custody of your daughter.
He probably will get significant contact with her.
Are you married? Is he on the birth certificate?

PP have given you details for Women's Aid. They, or a local support organisation (google to find one) will support you to get out - and not pressure or rush you (I first contacted my local agency more than a year before I actually made it out).

I am not going to lie - having a child with a controlling person is not fun. Build a strong support network to help you through. BUT - and you have to trust me on this - it is proven that it is better for the child to be with that controlling person part time and to have a "normal" stable parent the rest of the time than for you to stay together so you don't have to leave her with him. I know how hard that is - first hand - but it is important to get her - and you - out.

gottastopeatingchocolate · 28/05/2019 17:02

On a practical level, too - speak to a domestic abuse agency. You can ask your GP to refer you. This will provide evidence to support a claim for legal aid (it is also means tested, so depends on income).

Troels · 28/05/2019 17:06

Yes he's abusive, and now he's starting on your daughter. Call the number you've been given, they will help you and your Dd.
The usual abusive man will say he's going to take the kids, and have custody, it's a threat to get you to behave and do as he says. Just call and get it over with. Protect yoourself and your Dd.

Hidingtonothing · 28/05/2019 18:12

He won't get full custody OP, he'll threaten it but he won't get it. The more documented evidence you have of his abuse the better so now would be a good time to start seeking some support so it's all on file when you need it. Women's Aid, your GP, any health visitors or support workers you have access to, tell them what's happening so you can start to build up a picture. If the court can see that he's abusive it will give you a much better chance of them agreeing to any requests you have such as supervised access or prohibited steps orders so laying the ground work now is a really good idea.

It takes strength to leave and the best way of gaining that strength is to get some support in place and start quietly making plans. The threats he will no doubt make when he realises he's losing control of you will seem much less scary if you're prepared and have a plan in place and it will bolster your confidence if you've already thought 10 steps ahead of him.

It might not feel like it now but there will be a way out of this for you and the best way to find it is to pull in as much support as you can. So start asking, people will want to help Flowers

MrMagooo · 28/05/2019 18:17

If you have a good relationship with your parents....Tell them.

Annasgirl · 28/05/2019 18:23

OP Please leave this man. A family member was in a marriage like this with a harshly abusive fundamentalist Christian and he violently abused all of their daughters. Many lives were ruined and all of the children and the now former wife having lasting mental health issues.

AnotherExWife · 28/05/2019 18:36

OP Please delete your browser history so he can't find this thread.

He is definitely abusive. Trying to control how much breast milk your daughter can have is disgusting and abusive towards her. As she grows older her behaviour will grow more challenging - toddlers are hard work! How do you think he will treat her then? Do you trust him not to hurt her?

Please contact women's aid or your local domestic abuse service. They can help you make a plan to leave if that's what you want. I was in a similar situation and my local domestic abuse charity were literally a life saver.

He may threaten you with going for 100% custody, he can try but he won't get it. The starting point is 50/50 custody but I'd doubt this is what he actually wants and is saying it to intimidate you into staying.

You and your daughter deserve a life free from abuse, free from walking on egg shells x

lifegoes · 28/05/2019 18:43

YES

RandomMess · 28/05/2019 18:48

This is the sort of person that going via a refuge with WA is your best option in order to protect DD from further abuse.

Thanks
HelenUrth · 28/05/2019 18:51

"I have never shared any of this with anyone including family so it’s somewhat comforting to know that I’m not the only one who thinks he is controlling as I felt like I was going crazy and in denial due to him constantly telling me that he is not being controlling and simply doing what is best."

Let them know. This sort of abuse - and you are being seriously abused along with your daughter - thrives in secrecy. Tell everyone how he is behaving towards you and your little one. Don't be ashamed, the shame is all on him.

Denying food to a baby? And claiming to be a "Christian"? The man is scum. As your daughter gets older he will get worse and worse and worse. Do you want this for her?

DoctorDread · 29/05/2019 07:10

Oh god OP. Please leave him. From what you say he sounds like a danger to you and your child. Please remember that if you choose to leave and things get bad enough that you need to keep him away from you legally, you can also apply for a non molestation order. I got one because of coercive control against my ex.

He is incredibly controlling and the way he is starting to behave towards your daughter is raising massive alarm bells.

Please speak to women's aid as a matter of urgency and do the freedom program. I did and it gave me the courage to take my ex to court and see him prosecuted for stalking and harassment. Wishing you all the best.

MrsMozartMkII · 29/05/2019 07:19

Bloody hell lass!

That's no way to live a life. Would you be happy if it were your DD's relationship?

Definitely time to get out.

Happynow001 · 29/05/2019 07:32

OP take a read of this thread
All the things I/you can now once free from EA ?
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/thirtydaysonly/3590435-all-the-things-i-you-can-now-once-free-from-eaa_

Read what these posters are now able to do now they are free of their abusive partners and decide to break free from yours.

Get your finances sorted. speak to family/close friends/Women's Aid www.womensaid.org.uk/what-we-do/

And/Or Citizens Advice to see what your options are if you decide to leave. Also look at the website www.entitledto.co.uk to see what benefits you might be entitled to do.

Cover your tracks when doing web searches so clear out your browsing history immediately after each session. Also log out of MN whenever you are not using it - thus is your safe place to vent and get advice. Good luck. 🌷

Mrsmummy90 · 29/05/2019 07:38

He would tell you when to stop feeding your child? That's vile! Your poor little girl!!

He is not just controlling, he is highly abusive as well!
Please please leave. If not for yourself, for your daughter. Growing up with him in the house will cause many emotional scars to her. Please don't let that happen.

Moralitym1n1 · 29/05/2019 07:43

and bordering on an abusive father.

He's not bordering on - he is.

He was dictating when the baby had fed for long enough; that was for the baby to indicate, she could have still been hungry - or not settled - at times.

Tinyteatime · 29/05/2019 07:47

Yes he’s an abuser. What he’s doing is now thankfully illegal. Please find a way to get away from him.

Moondancer73 · 29/05/2019 07:47

Please call women's aid and make a plan to leave - I would not want my daughter growing up thinking that it was ok for a man to treat a woman that way, you need to leave while she is small.

LIVIA999 · 29/05/2019 07:50

This is horrific. You poor poor thing. You've got to get help now especially for your little girl, she can't be round this every day it's appalling.
You've shared it once so you can share it again. Maybe just show this message to someone you trust. Maybe even reach out to one of your old friends?
I want to tell you to get a bag and run home to family but I've no idea how feasible that is and also maybe leaving the family home isn't the right thing to do.
Also as a Pp has said, delete all your internet history Incase he does check.

Moralitym1n1 · 29/05/2019 07:56

I had him at grade A psycho controlling abuser until you started describing his behaviour after your child was born, then I upgraded to grade A psycho controlling abuser with 5 stars ...

You need to get away from him before he really starts affecting your daughter.

And then there's your mental health, no-one could live like this, it's torture.

CheesecakeAddict · 29/05/2019 08:03

All the abuse alarms are going off. Get out of there!! Call womens aid or sometimes councils have their own dv hub and go make a homeless application at the council. Think about what effect this will have on your daughter of she grows up with that.

Moralitym1n1 · 29/05/2019 08:15

My sister knows a woman who was married, with a daughter, to a man like this. (Their daughters were friends, that was the connection). In fact I'd say he wasn't even as bad as your partner (from what I know).

As the daughter grew up he became fixated on her diet and restricting her food; quantity and good types. She was underweight and hungry a lot; my sister used to feed her up as soon as she was alone with them because she felt so sorry for her. He abused her in other ways too (physical though not sexual).

It took the mum 15 years to get away from him, after she did he did things like destroy the healthy family dog because he knew it would upset her and esp the daughter badly.

I won't say what happened to him but his mental issues (which is what your partner has too) became clearer and clearer.

Moralitym1n1 · 29/05/2019 08:16

The mum is now happy with another partner and councils people about domestic abuse.

The daughter is better but will probably never truly recover from her childhood and youth; that's the fundamental issue.

RedPink · 29/05/2019 08:34

Are you in the UK?

Moralitym1n1 · 29/05/2019 09:06

Also "he states otherwise" ..

"You're right in controlling, extremely unreasonable, abusive - and I need to change. There's no excuse for this, this is my fault, not yours" - no controller or abusive said EVER.

(Well they might day it if they're in court ordered therapy - but they don't mean it, and I have yet to hear if one who changed).

They fundamentally believe they're right.

Moralitym1n1 · 29/05/2019 09:07

*I'm

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