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Affair? Not affair? Help me please

70 replies

Barneybibblebottom · 08/05/2019 12:41

Last week OH was behaving very out of character, due I think to unusual stresses at work, he went out all day (7 hours) alone without telling me ( we were supposed to spend the day together) stayed out all night at a mutual male friends and came home at 6.45 am.
Due to this, when I saw he left his phone in the bathroom, I had a look (wrong I know)
He’d recieved a text from a woman he works with that was suggestive and saying when’s he’s free can they talk.
He unlocked the bathroom door from the outside at that point and came in, something he would never do, Possibly because he realised he’d left his phone in there with me?
I asked him about the message, he said that’s what’s she’s like to everyone, but denied any knowledge of her fancying him .
So, I still felt very uncomfortable about this, so found his phone bill and looked through it, I can see that he has text her regularly, 11 texts at 1am onwards on one occasion and most days , morning and evening during Feb, not much lately but of course I wouldn’t know if he was using whatsapp . he admitted last night that he did know she fancied him, that others at work had told him, I asked him about all the text messages this morning and he was very angry and went off to work refusing to talk about it.
I feel like I’m going crazy here, he told me I’m paranoid, am I??

OP posts:
Barneybibblebottom · 09/05/2019 18:28

Thank you Tryingtocope, that’s very kind of you.
He went off to work this morning and wouldn’t talk to me, the tension in the house is awful, I’m trying to keep calm and act normally for the kids
and trying not to wind myself up with anger .

OP posts:
xJune88 · 09/05/2019 18:36

Hes done wrong and now you're getting the silent treatment? Not on at all. I know what I'd do! X

MrsGrannyWeatherwax · 09/05/2019 18:48

I think you don’t want to accept this as a possibility that he’s cheating on you as it would ruin your current setup and it’s scary to think of a future apart. Your children’s happiness is important to you, and you think that it would be better together for them. But you’re suspicious, he’s denying it and there is an atmosphere already as he’s ignoring it and you’re raging. Can you really swallow this anger (and id be feeling bitter) at his assumed deception? Time to think about it all will help you come to a decision, and you might yet catch him out fully.

It’s a horrible situation for you, and it’s tough to leave but perhaps tougher to stay? I personally would be looking to leave as I couldn’t take the suspicion, jealousy and anger BUT that’s because I’d become petty and vindictive which would be a toxic atmosphere for children.

Sending best wishes and I hope you’re okay

ScreamingLadySutch · 09/05/2019 20:59

Up with this, I will not put - Winston Churchill

He was doing it for grammar (split infinitives)

  • but as a boundary? IT CANNOT BE BEAT
Yellowshirt · 09/05/2019 22:35

Get rid of him I'm afraid. Feel lucky you found the text messages so you no he is a cheating liar. It took me years to finally find the proof you have as my wife hid her phone and kept it securely locked yet my phone was always just chucked on the side for my daughter to mess around with the games etc....

PJ67 · 09/05/2019 22:46

Can't believe he went out of the house this morning and wouldn't talk to you. He's trying to turn this round and make you feel that you're being paranoid or unreasonable in some way. If there is any way you're going to be able to get through this and stay together he is going to ha e to be honest. It will be very difficult to do but I agree with the others, you should ask him to leave, at least until he's willing to be honest with you.

TryingToCope101 · 09/05/2019 23:28

How did he behave when he came home this evening, OP? X

WhatOnPlanetEarth · 09/05/2019 23:32

He has all the control here doesn’t he? Giving YOU the silent treatment.

crispsforsupper · 09/05/2019 23:34

I'm going to go against the grain and say you can both save this if you both want to. Affairs (emotional and physical) happen for all sorts of reasons. Maybe time for you both (him certain and maybe you if you think it's appropriate) to go for counselling (individual and as a couple?) to look at what's going on.

Flowers
Graphista · 09/05/2019 23:55

You are not crazy!

Typical cheaters script bollocks I'm afraid.

Issues with phone
Out of character time away from you
Dismissing your concerns
Gaslighting you
Denying unless irrefutable proof and then only admitting to what's been proven

You don't NEED to prove it to act.

Do you want to stay with him or would you definitely leave if you had proof of his cheating?

"He was definitely at our male friends house on Friday night, I trust this man and he confirmed it" except that's HIS friend who's allegiance if made to choose would be to HIM plus, he could be telling the truth and still covering for an affair if she was also there.

"and I owe it to them to try to get past this with their dad" why? How is their having a miserable, betrayed mum good for them?

"Do your children deserve a toxic home where their father demeans and disregards their mother? Is this the model you want for their future relationships?" Exactly, there are threads on here by now adults who were the children in this situation and most of them say they wish their parents had split or split sooner than they did.

My ex cheating was also "completely out of character" to the point his friends and family queried a possible medical cause - there wasn't one.

"I’m sorry to say this, but you need to get an STI test" yes afraid so. Not pleasant but definitely necessary.

NowWhatUsernameShallIHave · 10/05/2019 00:06

Sorry OP

I was in exactly the same position 5 months ago.
My STBXH would take his phone everywhere, delete texts when thought I was asleep and all of a sudden had a busy socially life,
I could go into plenty more but the crux of it is he was sleeping with her and was trying to get me to break up with him. According to him he didn’t want to look like the bad guy and call it a day.

We have a DS together. Move on it’s hard but you don’t deserve to be treated like this.

KennyCalmIt · 10/05/2019 01:13

Do not let him make you feel as if you’re in the wrong. You aren’t, he is

At the very least he’s having an emotional affair or trying to secure a shag off this woman

You deserve better.

ISpeakJive · 10/05/2019 06:20

Of course he isn’t talking to you. Aside from the fact that his reaction smacks of guilt, he also has the perfect excuse not to talk to you or explain where he is going or doing.

Tell him to fuck off.

Windmillwhirl · 10/05/2019 06:32

I'm so sorry. He won't admit be sure there is no way back in his mind from that, i.e. you have grounds to leave or could throw it back in his face for eternity

He will never admit what he did and it's clear as day he cheated on you and us reacting with anger and blame because you caught him out.

Is the friend he stayed with his friend also? I know of men who have lied to cover their friends infidelity because they don't want t to be the bearer of bad news. Don't be so quick to believe. If he wasn't texting her when he was away it could be because he was with her.

I hope you realise you and your children deserve better than this liar and bully

Closetbeanmuncher · 10/05/2019 21:48

As you haven't answered the question I asked I'm going to assume you are the same poster....

You don't need to waste your life on this, there are men who would cherish and respect you.

Learned helplessness op...

Please seek some help or if you don't feel ready for that at least do some reading.

Learned helplessness
Codependency
Gaslighting
Stonewalling

You ARE NOT crazy, you are lost. His actions don't match the words because he is false.

Please do the reading 💐

BumbleBeee69 · 10/05/2019 22:11

As you haven't answered the question I asked I'm going to assume you are the same poster...

I agree it's the same Poster.. this guy is a DICK Flowers

Oohgossip · 11/05/2019 00:38

The text at 8.30 in the morning would be a ‘I’m on my way’ text and the one at 5.30 (when she had to go home to her family?) a ‘I miss you already’ text Sad

MsDogLady · 11/05/2019 03:00

How is it going now, OP?

Weenurse · 11/05/2019 05:14

Sorry 💐

waterrat · 11/05/2019 06:39

If they are really just friends why can't you see the messages ?

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