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Human punching bag

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humanpunchbag · 05/05/2019 16:20

As the title and my username suggests, it would seem that the sole purpose I was put on this earth is to be used as a punchbag for angry men. Emotionally, physically and sexually. I’m not even joking when I say that almost every man I’ve met has either hit me, raped me or at the very list been extremely verbally abusive to me.

It starts with my own dad, who is an alcoholic. He used to whack me a lot as a kid - especially when coming down from a few drinks. We are on civil terms now but my childhood was sometimes scary to the point when even now, if I accidentally spill a drink I flinch even though I haven’t lived with him for 2 decades. I was then sexually abused by a different male relative (extended family) for years - that was all swept under the carpet and that side of the family no longer speaks to me (and make snide comments to other family members about me). Even though what I told them was admitted by my abuser, they still chose to side with him and I have been shunned from family events ever since. Don’t even know if I’ll be invited to my Nan’s funeral when she goes. I guess he had more “worth” or currency within the family than me so he’s still head of the table.

I then went on to be quite promiscuous as a teenager (textbook apparently). This led to me being taken advantage of and eventually gang raped at 15 (during a period of homelessness). I then met the father of my oldest DC at 16 and we had a volatile relationship which culminated in me having DS1 at age 18. I split from his dad 5 months later as he was being violent with me, although no sexually abuse in that relationship. I actually stepped up and became quite a good little mum, despite circumstances, I was besotted with my DS and did pretty well. DS1’s dad was never properly bonded with DS and has always done the bare minimum for him, but his parents were decent.

Shortly after, I met the father of my younger two DC’s. I thought he was the real deal and he was great with my oldest son. Although we didn’t live together for a long time, so my son was still primarily raised be me. We were together many years and after a decade and eventually setting up home, had two more children together. But he became verbally abusive towards me. He then became addicted to drink and drugs so I left him in 2014/15. He randomly beat me up 6 months ago (after already being split up for a few years) - luckily none of the children witnessed this - but he was arrested and barred from my house. He still sees them, but supervised by his mum.

Since then, having been single 4/5 years now, I’ve had a couple of brief relationships. One stalked me and threatened me.The other raped me. Again. So I’m celibate by choice and it’s staying that way. I should point out that my kids never met these men nor did they even know of their existence. They never witnessed any abuse from any of my relationships. And I ended all relationships almost immediately after the bad behaviour started or straight after an “incident” took place. So I did the right thing each time.

This brings me to today; my DS1 is now in year 12, studying for Alevels. He was always a lovely boy - shy, sweet and a straight A student. I’ve always been very proud of him. But recently, his school work has dropped off, he’s become more angry and reclusive, addicted to his phone and to top it off, has started being aggressive with me and the younger kids. Pushing, shoving - small hits. He stood above me whilst I was in bed on Friday night, looming over me (he’s 6ft 3”) and threatening to beat me up, calling me a cunt and worthless/incompetent - screaming at me to shut up, etc. I was so scared. He eventually went to his room and slammed the door. The next morning he wasn’t even remorseful and told me that I deserved it (for moving 2 of his coins that I had just given him myself)! He said it took everything in him not to punch me in the face because he hates me so much. He then went off to his nan’s for the weekend for a prearranged event. He’s not back yet.

The younger kids were (still are) thankfully at their dads this weekend so didn’t witness it (although he has pushed and shoved them a couple of times recently for being “too noisy”). But this obviously can’t continue - it’s just next to impossible to access help when it’s your own kid abusing you rather than an ex partner. I have been to the doctors with him 7 weeks ago to talk about referring him to CAHMS or other services as I felt he needed support. The doctor said we’d be receiving a referral letter in a fortnight but I’ve had nothing off them yet. Getting him to agree to go back is going to be very hard - especially as they clearly don’t want to know.

I know partially why my son is behaving like this; he and his father had a terrible argument 13 months ago that has resulted in his dad ignoring him pretty much since then. He only sees him at family parties which there’s been about 4 of since then. They are civil in front of family but don’t talk in between times. He sees more of his grandparents which is nice, but that all goes through me instead. His dad has 3 more kids with his current partner (who is lovely) that he dotes on and treats a lot better. By comparison, my DS was never given a key to their house when they moved locally and now he no longer has a room there anymore. He missed DS1’s entire exams last year, his prom and his birthday because he wasn’t speaking to him, horrible man. DS1 must feel so rejected it breaks my heart. His dad blames me (even though I wasn’t there for the original argument and have always encouraged contact with them). The man hates my guts and calls me all sorts of shit. So I can understand why my DS is torn - he doesn’t like his dads behaviour, but also doesn’t get why both my long-term partners despised me so much that they’ve gone to lengths they have against me. He brings this up a lot, mocking me for being single and saying “you can’t keep a relationship - there’s something wrong with you”. So even though I treat my son well, he is suspicious of why men treat me so badly - so much so that he’s decided to throw his lot in with them and treat me the same way. And he’s got a point hasn’t he? Why does every man in my life treat me with violence and contempt? What’s wrong with ME? It can’t just be sheer bad luck after all this time - I’m the common denominator!!!

The problem MUST be me. I just don’t know why. If I did I would fix it. I’m a kind person - patient, don’t easily lose my rag much. Will stand up for things if I think that are very wrong though. But not so opinionated that I’m winding people up. I seem to annoy men just by breathing! Even after being hurt by them, some have admitted that I didn’t do anything specifically wrong - they just hate me. And now my wonderful son is becoming just like them. Despite never witnessing it outright because of my quick action!!! Is it in his DNA? I’m totally broken by all this - I really do think that I’d be better off binning my car into a tree and ending it all, as I don’t have the capacity to fix this. And let’s face it, with my history - it’s not looking good for the future for me or my kids is it? How long before my younger two start behaving this way? Or ending up with others that do?

I wish I could help them but I don’t know how. I feel so sad and scared for their future. I didn’t set out to raise yet another violent misogynist and did everything I could to avoid it. But somehow, because of the men’s bad behaviour it’s happened anyway. And there’s nothing I can do to control it. I also feel so utterly betrayed by my oldest son. I’ve raised him and done everything in my power for him to have a good life where his dad hasn’t bothered much. And whilst he knows his dad is a tosser, he’s decided to take it all out on me anyway. Just like everybody else. 😞

Like I said before: human punching bag.

Sorry for the endless rant and feeling sorry for myself - I don’t have enough energy left in me to have hope any more - it’s all getting too much. Having very dodgy thoughts of “shall I just end it?” or at the very least handing my kids over to someone else so they at least stand half a chance.

OP posts:
AsleepAllDay · 05/05/2019 19:48

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Stillme1 · 05/05/2019 20:06

I think we all have to be aware that we should not allow anyone to abuse us in any way whatsoever.
It does not matter what the relationship is a person abusing another in any way is an abuser and we do not have to tolerate it. It does not matter which is male and female or both of the same sex, child or parent there is never any excuse for abuse.
As OP said if it had been a husband/boyfriend she would have ended the relationship there and then. It is the right thing to do. Many of her partners (or any of our partners) will not be 6 feet 3 in height. It is very threatening/bullying to tower over anyone and threaten to punch them. It must have been scary, all the more so as this is her child!
Do NOT let your son away with this. This could be the thin edge of the wedge. I could not believe it when my DC started with the shouting, criticising, complaining, changing history. That was bad enough. Then the physical violence started. I stuck it out through all of that even gave a second chance after the violence then something not so bad happened but showed I was only useful. I have left that scene. I will not tolerate an abusive DC of any age or description.
You have to protect yourself and the younger DC. SS will be all over you if you have a violent member of the household.
He picked the fight lets see how he likes the consequences. Report it and be safe

PracticallySpeaking · 05/05/2019 21:02

OP your post made me cry. I’m so sorry for everything you’ve had to deal with in your life. You’ve done so amazingly well given everything that has been thrown at you - you should be proud of that.

You sound like an amazing mum and it must be heartbreaking to feel like your son doesn’t love you anymore and is turning into an abuser (that must be terrifying in fact given your past experiences of abuse). I think he does love you. I think he’s angry, sad and acting out. The way he is acting out is extreme and inappropriate and abusive (and must be stopped) and it’s probably come from him seeing his dad act like that and talk about you in a horrible manner. This isn’t your fault that he’s witnessed that - like you said he continued to see his dad after you split.

I can see how you feel like you’re weak and a natural punching bag to men and like it’s your fault, like you trigger something in them, but it’s NOT you, it’s them. There’s nothing wrong with you. You’ve ended up with the wrong partners because of things that happened to you in childhood that you had no way to control.

Please don’t think your children would be better off without you - they need you.

My dad was abusive to my mum and on one occasion I genuinely thought she was going to die. I never experienced sexual abuse thankfully. It stuck with me and my exH was psychologically abusive - I thought I’d broken the cycle and that he was a good guy because he was never physically violent (how ridiculous is that, I thought all a good man had to do was not be violent towards me! - my expectations and self-worth were non-existent which attracts abusive predators. I finally found my amazing DH - he showed me so much genuine love and acceptance that at first I didn’t know what to do with it.

But anyway, my point is that I can imagine that if we had a DS your DS’s age my DH would put him straight if he ever tried that shit. Since your son doesn’t have a positive father figure in his life (not your fault!) only a negative one, that makes it difficult for you to keep him on the right path. I would just say don’t blame yourself and try to reach out to any external help you can get from the school/doctors/mental health professionals etc. I wonder if there are any activities (sports, church, etc) he could get involved in where he would have the opportunity to interact with positive male role models. It must be hard for him to have such a horrible father. Have you ever shared with him your experiences with your own horrible father?

PracticallySpeaking · 05/05/2019 21:19

And you don’t “bring out the worst in others” like you said. Don’t be so harsh on yourself. He’s taking it out on you because you are his safe place. I’m not saying it’s acceptable for him to do it at all - but I think that’s why it gets taken out on you. When my DS first started primary school she found it hard because she’d left all her friends from nursery behind and it was all so new, and she would release all her upset on to me when I came to pick her up from school - she kept it in all day because she didn’t feel safe and comfortable there yet and as soon as she saw me it was full on meltdown as I was the closest person to her.

I know a toddler and a violent nearly adult son are two completely different things but my point is just that you need to stop blaming yourself. Believe that you are a good mum and you deserve help from others to help you deal with your son behaviour which stems from his violent father NOT from you

LexMitior · 05/05/2019 21:23

I really disagree with the safe space analogy for 17 year old. That’s not what is happening here.

This is domestic violence, whereas a toddler who kicks off because he cannot have a biscuit or feels frustration is a totally different thing.

The safe space is where you get punched without any consequences for the person who did it. That’s the sort of love and dependency these cruel people feed on,

AhhhHereItGoes · 05/05/2019 21:43

Oh OP I'm sorry you are in this position.

You are an incredibly strong woman. Instead of putting up with the shit you've been handed, you have dumped those vile twats.

Not only that but deep down you know you don't deserve it which is why you will never put up with that kind of thing again.

If you are anything like me you are a people pleaser who hates others to feel sad, so you provide an almost rescuer persona. Unfortunately, if you are rescuing there's normally a very good reason.

Practically every male i have had any real bond with since 13 has sexually assaulted or been inappropriate with me.

I know deep down I don't deserve it but like you, I felt once it's been so many it cannot just be coincidence.

But the important thing is for your son to understand what will happen if he does act this way. Make it clear if he does attack you, the police will be called. He's not a tiny child anymore, he needs to realise if he does something wrong he will have real world consequences.

He's angry because he doesn't have a close bond with his father and as it's not safe for him to take it out on him, he's doing that on you. But physical violence is not acceptable and it's a lesson he will need to learn.

You have done nothing wrong here - but what you need to do now is be clear and if he does assault you - do call the police.

Yes, it's sad it would always be on his record and yes it's sad he's had a turbulent relationship with his father but, he still needs to act like a decent human being.

I don't think other posters are right when they say he no longer loves you. I think he does love you but he does not respect you.

daisychain01 · 06/05/2019 05:30

@Human the scenario you gave upthread of your partner at the time "being round looking at jobs on the computer" ... made me think, when you have a partner do you give them a key to your house, and do they have free rein to come and go from your home?

If so, then any future relationship you have, can you be determined not to give them a key and not allow them to think they can just come and go when they choose.

Set those boundaries both emotionally and physically.

Don't allow them to invade your space too soon. Keep control, don't make life so easy for them. They need to earn your trust.

daisychain01 · 06/05/2019 05:34

Your username is very telling.

Don't be the victim.

It's been a very long painful road for you, therapy can help you gain self-respect and love of self. Put yourself first, it isn't selfish, it will be your armoury against anyone Male or Female who tries to wrong you.

Love of self is a life skill for every type of relationship you have in future. The past is done. Think 'here and now', and future.

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