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Partner visited Prostitutes for BJ

74 replies

SuzieWong69 · 30/04/2019 14:45

Advise needed and I probably know what your all going to say!
My partner and I have been together for 4 years, but we knew each other a long time before that. We don’t live together, I live with my teenage daughter, who is a bit of a handful and therefore have put off moving in together for a few years!!! We have a very loving relationship, best friends, no issues up until recently!

Late last year, I was a little bit suspicious of his behaviour, late night chats with someone on WhatsApp, doesn’t have a lot of friends. I know it’s really naughty but I looked through is iPad and found he’d been looking at local prostitutes on Adultwork and looking at reviews on a vile site UKPunting, which basically is men grading and commenting on visits to prostitutes! I then found 2 text messages to 2 different prostitutes over 4 days asking to book 15 min sessions. Both prostitues replied and asked him to message next day to confirm a time, which he did, but there was no reply from them??? I confronted him about it and he grovelled and said he had no intention of going, he just got a bit of a kick contacting them? He promised he wouldn’t do it again!! He also said he used the Adultwork site for porn and nothing more???
Beginning of this year, due to the trust in our relationship being damaged, I made up an account on the UKPunting site and took a guess at his username and found several feedback comments, there was about 4 from before we got together and he had told me he had visited prostitutes after a break up from a long term partner, when going through a hard time? Then I found feedback from late last year, when we were together, regarding a visit to a local brothel and what poor service he received and wasn’t very complimentary about the girl!!! I messaged him and finished with him. He blamed it all on me, said I shouldn’t have snooped, I had no right, it was no big deal, it was like popping in for a cup of coffee!!!! He admitted to doing it twice, just a BJ, no sex apparently as this is intimate and he wouldn’t do that to me??!! A few days later he messaged me saying life was shit without me and he’d learnt his lesson, he’d never do it again! He also told me the anti-depressants he’s on are playing havoc with his body and things aren’t working properly, I hadn’t really noticed that much, but he says it has and I don’t understand! This made me think I was to blame and not doing anything for him and that’s why he went elsewhere. He just said he wanted to find out 🤷‍♀️ apparently first time ok, second it wasn’t! I have recently checked his history and he’s still looking at local prostitutes and the review site!

When I put it all down like this, the odds are stacked against us, but he is my best friend, I do love, but I don’t particularly like him at the moment moment, it’s pretty crap! I have been to the doctors and arranged some counselling, but there’s nobody else I can speak to about this!

Sorry for long post!

OP posts:
BlackPrism · 30/04/2019 16:28

How can he be your best friend? Clearly you don't know the first thing about who he really is

SuzieWong69 · 30/04/2019 16:28

Apparently they have killed his sex drive, his excuse for visiting these prostitutes was to try and understand it??? Makes me feel shit, like it’s not working with me, so he’s trying elsewhere! He says I will never understand it, so no point in discussing!

OP posts:
QueenBeex · 30/04/2019 16:39

Don't even listen to what he says, you don't need to hear his excuses. You don't need to hear anything he has to say actually, block him.

Beachbodynowayready · 30/04/2019 16:39

No sex drive would quash his need for his dick sucked then surely?

SpamChaudFroid · 30/04/2019 16:44

Apparently they have killed his sex drive, his excuse for visiting these prostitutes was to try and understand it???

In hindsight he'd have been better off visiting his GP or speaking to a therapist to understand his lack of libido.

FuriousVexation · 30/04/2019 16:46

"He doesn’t think I need counselling, says it’s a waste of time"

Why do you give a shit what he thinks?

Thunderwing · 30/04/2019 16:49

No sex drive would quash his need for his dick sucked then surely?

Indeed. Or is he suggesting that prostitutes have some mystical knowledge of a 'sex-drive on-switch' that can only be found when his flaccid penis is put in their mouths? Hmm

DramaLlama32 · 30/04/2019 16:51

If he is still looking on the websites, then he hasn't learned his lesson? Plus he thinks it's ok to 'review' women.... I would stay away from him

IncrediblySadToo · 30/04/2019 16:56

Best friend?

You clearly need new friends!

He’s a lying, cheating, selfish, fuckwit.

He’s fucking stupid too. Blaming YOU?! WTAF.

...and he has NO common sense either. What a dimwit. He wants to get back with you so he says, essentially, he couldn’t get it up with you, so thought he’d see if another woman would turn him on?!

...prostitutes aside, I couldn’t be with someone so thick.

JapaneseNotWeed · 30/04/2019 17:02

Well, he doesn’t sound very nice does he..?

MsDogLady · 30/04/2019 17:03

Suzie, a loving partner and “best friend” would not treat you with such contempt.

He lies. He cheats. He puts your health in jeopardy. He manipulates by shifting blame to you.

Why are you willing to settle for so little?

Moralitym1n1 · 30/04/2019 17:04

Apparently they have killed his sex drive, his excuse for visiting these prostitutes was to try and understand it???

Boll - ocks.

What's to try and understand? It's common. You go to your go and change dose/try a different one/ come off them and try other ways of dealing with depression. He's trying to use depression and 'poor me' as an excuse.

Even if he had to 'try to understand', which doesn't make any sense, why not with you - his partner, sexual partner etc.?

Besides you said he's done this before - he had an excuse for that too, didn't he. Another excuse that doesn't make any sense/isn't normal.

Moralitym1n1 · 30/04/2019 17:04

*gp

Moralitym1n1 · 30/04/2019 17:07

*He doesn’t think I need counselling, says it’s a waste of time"

Why do you give a shit what he thinks?

Yeah, cause he's clearly such a well adjusted guy. He should definitely be giving others advice.
It's also in his interest for you not to do anything inc. counselling.

Moralitym1n1 · 30/04/2019 17:11

there was about 4 from before we got together and he had told me he had visited prostitutes after a break up from a long term partner, when going through a hard time?

Yeah that was the excuse the last time.

All very normal and well adjusted. He seems to default to using prostitutes for quite a few things - dealing with relationship breakdown, prostitutes .. dealing with depression and ed due to antidepressants, prostitutes ...

Have a feeling he was already doing it before the relationship broke down.

SunshineCake · 30/04/2019 17:26

Why do you need counselling?

You're with a disgusting person. You don't need a counsellor to tell you you should know you deserve better.

PlinkPlink · 30/04/2019 17:27

I've been on anti-depressants. They do affect everyone differently but depression is not an excuse to behave like a world class twunt.

He really doesn't sound like your best friend at all. He's lied to you repeatedly, betrayed your trust, then tried to blame his actions on you and then carried on repeating the same action despite him saying he'd 'learnt his lesson'.

This is disgusting behaviour and completely irreparable. Any attempt at starting over has been completely destroyed by his actions.

forumdonkey · 30/04/2019 18:10

The trust has gone, whether he's visiting prostitutes or messaging another woman. Every time he's on his phone you'll be wondering what he's doing. Every time he's late or not with you, you'll be wondering who he's with and where he is.

Trust, honesty and respect is the minimum within a relationship. You can't live your life with doubt and mistrust, it'll drive you insane

w0man · 30/04/2019 18:28

This man would have changed by now if he wanted to and if he cared about you.

His purchasing of women shows he has no respect for them or for you. He's not your best friend and you deserve so much better.

He's lied already so I wouldn't be shocked if he's lying about not purchasing consent for sexual intercourse too.

If he thinks oral sex isn't a big deal he will have no problem with you giving and receiving with other men then? Would he accept anti depressant meds as a reason for you to go out and have men perform oral sex on you to increase your "understanding"

He doesn't need to visit sex workers to understand his body and meds. We have this thing Doctors, Chemists and Google. He could have gotten advice from any of the above without paying a woman to suck his dick.

He's not going to stop from the way you've described things so I guess your choice accept it and stay with him knowing he's purchasing women's bodies or get rid of him. It'll be hard for you but it'll get easier with time. Thanks

Closetbeanmuncher · 30/04/2019 19:10

Wow I think his excuses and justifications are some of the worst I've heard on mumsnet.

Forget the history for a minute and let's summarise....

*Dishonest and untrustworthy
*Refuses to take responsibility for actions
*Has no regard for your sexual health
*Habitual use of prostitutes
*Thinks using prostitutes and compromising your sexual health is "no big deal"

This is not a best friend or compatible life partner.... absolutely nowhere near. Your core values are opposite poles apart, and he has absolutely zero regard or respect for you.

Are you happy to spend the rest of your life with this repulsive specimen?

If you need counselling to see that this is a complete lost cause then I'm seriously concerned for you and your daughter.

Pa1oma · 30/04/2019 19:42

OP how can you even be asking if this is remotely ok?

Nobody in the face if the earth would put up with this for one second.

Block him; delete him from your life and run run run for the hills and never look back.

I find this unbelievable.

Dirtybadger · 30/04/2019 19:54

God what a fucking saddo (him not you).

I don't know how anyone can continue to be attracted someone who pays for sex. Putting aside any cheating or moral issue...even if it's before you met it still just seems desperately embarrassing/pathetic.

Who loses their libido and tries to fix it by paying for sex. Not like he was trialling out some new porn online for free. He left the house and went and paid for it. Hardly a passive or impulsive thing.

I would also be insulted by his effort to justify himself to you. You're better than his bizarre excuses.

Fuck him.

category12 · 30/04/2019 19:55

He's just a punter. He's not trying to find himself or struggling with issues - he likes paying for sex. It pre-dates you and it'll outlast you too.

DBML · 30/04/2019 19:58

Eww 😷! Gross.

Op, he’s a fraud. He’s not your best friend. He a lying, disgusting pig and you can do better.

Moralitym1n1 · 30/04/2019 20:18

Nobody in the face if the earth would put up with this for one second.

Sone people, going by this forum, clearly hzvd/do - however with the ones who do; you can see the effect on their health & happiness. And thevonex who have (but got out,) say it ruined their mental health, self esteem, affected their physical health etc.

Op - if I now understand correctly that his 'excuse' for this time is that he had no sex drive/,couldn't get it up and he thought he would understand it and solve it by getting a blow job off another woman ....

A. Anyone with half a functioning brain know some antidepressants affect libido and that depression does too. If you didn't, a quick Google would tell you that, or z quick look at any meds booklet, or a visit to the gp.

B. Having established that, if you had no libido of couldn't get it up towards your partner; if it were due to depression of ads you would come to the totally reasonable conclusion that if was general or not specific to one person. Especially presuming you were able to get it up with that person before now.

C. Even (which makes no sense bug let's go with it,) you thought it might only be with that person and you shoukd/could test it with someone else ... That thought, for anyone normal/decent - would be immediately quashed by the fact that (prostitute or civvie) you would be cheating on them, betraying them, lying to them, doing something that's not ok in a normal monogamous relationship. There should be a massive red line, boundary, still sign, 'thats not right/that wouldn't be right/ I can't do that' in your head.

But it's not there for him, it'ss missing.

There's something not right with him. No-o e decent/worth a relationship would do that.

I know it's easy for us, we're not experiencing the pain, but seriously the sooner you get out, the sooner you start recovering.

(His excuses are so nonsensical and actually insulting by the way).

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