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Dealing with procrastination in a OH (without nagging)

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beesgobzzz · 08/04/2019 09:07

First off, I'd like to say that my DH is a good man, a great father who loves our little DS to bits. He is good at some things like managing our finances and helping with cooking and cleaning of the kitchen (we alternate who does this each evening).

However he is a terrible procrastinator and I am finding it increasingly difficult to deal with.

Yesterday we had a massive fight over him doing the laundry.

Friday evening I asked him if he could do a couple loads of laundry on Sat as he was home with DS whilst I was out at a hen do.

He then decided to go out on Sat with DS and "didn't have time". I only left the house at 12:45pm and know that he spent most of the morning on the sofa, before going out with DS at around 2pm.

Sunday morning he still didn't make a start on the laundry, so I reminded him. He put one load in. Once it was complete he just left it in the washer for a good hour or more before I asked him to please go hang the laundry up and put the next load in. Which he very reluctantly did. That load finished and was left on bottom step for an hour until the next load was finished. The two loads then sat there for god knows how long. Eventually at about 6:30pm he went upstairs and started hanging them up and folding the dry laundry. At 7:20pm I asked him to come downstairs and put DS to bed whilst I got on with dinner.

He was STILL hanging the laundry. And furious at me because he can do nothing right and he was only doing what I asked and now I am interrupting him to sort out DS.

My point is that if he had just done it more efficiently or done atleast some of it on Saturday when he was home in the morning, he wouldn't have had so much to do Sunday evening.

I hate nagging him to do things, but if I don't he just does half a job and then leaves it. Or doesn't do the job at all. The laundry could have been done in 3 hours but he spread it over an entire day.

Some historical examples.

  • We assembled DS nursery furniture when I was pregnant. The bookshelf, chest of drawers and wardrobe needed to be attached to the wall but he didn't have the right fittings at the time. He then bought the correct fittings. I asked him over and over again, for almost a year before it got done. And he didn't even do it himself, a visiting relative helped us out.
  • The year before our wedding he admitted to me that he had £4000 worth of unclaimed work expenses that he 'hadn't gotten around to' dealing with. That's for £4000 of our personal money that he had spent on travel, hotel, etc and not claimed back from work. I was fuming. He was lucky his finance department agreed to pay it back, as it's was a years worth all at once. Most companies won't go back further than 3 months.
  • We currently live in a new build that doesn't need much in the way of home repairs, but he want's to buy a larger property that is "more of a project" that has more space for DS. This terrifies me because he can't even get basic jobs done around our current home.

Sorry this is such a long post, but I am just trying to illustrate that this is a problem that causes issues both at home and at work.

I hate that my son hears me constantly on at his father. He is only 15 months but soon he is going to start understanding what we're saying and I don't want him to be affected by us bickering.

Does anyone have any advice on dealing with procrastination in a partner? How can I motivate him to do things without nagging him? I hate the way I sound when I do. I am generally quite a relaxed person, who is not at all a neat freak or needs to have a spotlessly clean house. But we both work and I don't see why he can't just see something needs doing and do it without me having to go on about it.

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MrDrummer · 08/04/2019 14:16

@snowball28

The point is that I know what housework is and I definitely don't consider it women's work. I have done plenty of it. You projected that I believe its woman's work onto me, based on your own misandry. Take your vindictive prejudices away.

The root of my logic is that I am of belief that everyone is responsible for their own happiness. The tl;dr is that if you are not happy with your partner's behaviour, then split up, because you are wasting your time trying to change someone. Doesn't matter what behaviour we are talking about here and it doesn't matter which partner we are talking about.

Do you really think going on about how the "OP's DH needs to be less lazy" is helping? Is it even bring any comfort to the OP? I doubt it in either case. She is quite frustrated and rightfully so. The post says "what I can I do about?" But all the answers apart from mine are about what he needs to do!

I might be saying something that nobody wants to hear, but at least it is constructive about what the OP can do for herself!

MrDrummer · 08/04/2019 14:20

The only person at fault here is OP’s husband for being a lazy arse and not prioritising his duties as a member of that household. It’s really very simple. OP is not at fault here though I’m sure you’ll carry on inferring she is anyway.

Nobody is at fault. Why does there need to be fault, when it is a difference in expectations? If he wants to wear stinking unwashed clothes, that's his lookout.

Shoxfordian · 08/04/2019 14:27

Do you think it's reasonable to compromise though Mr Drummer? My dh is the tidy one and I'm quite messy naturally but I make an effort to tidy up when I've been working from home so he doesn't come in and feel he has to. It's a compromise I choose to make and it seems like the op husband doesn't want to do the same but maybe he could do.

Shazafied · 08/04/2019 14:28

My DH is like this. He has improved a bit since we got together, but will fall back into old ways easily. He has problems with attention, remembering that I’ve asked him to do something and finishing jobs.

I send him VERY SPECIFIC lists of what’s to be done (usually over a weekend). For example I wouldn’t just say “do the laundry”, I’d say “do these three loads and set your timer for 45 mins and hang each one up immediately” then I’d put “fold and put away all dry laundry by end of day”.

^just an example as he never actually does the laundry. It’s exhausting but if I write things down with specific instructions, time scales to do it by and also tell him to set reminders on his phone it does help.

He does moan and me for nagging - but I’ve told him it’s either me nah/send lists, or do everything myself which would ultimately destroy our relationship. I’m not going to lie I have lost my shit with him many, many times for not following through with larger tasks (diy) ot things that impact on the safety of our DC (eg fitting stairgates).

My husband also says silly things like “why should we pay someone to repoint the house - I’ll just do it?!” , when he can’t even unload the dishwasher unprompted. I fell for this a few times but now i just shut it down immediately and book firms to do things. Now we have DC, and my DH does work long hours, I do not mess about with larger tasks that need doing. I get a few quotes and tell him it’s getting done and when the person is coming !!

DH occasionally has a hissy fit about being nagged/not always getting to do jobs himself - but I just don’t engage !

snowball28 · 08/04/2019 14:36

Gosh you’re utterly laughable, if you want to tell yourself people (not just me on this thread) are projecting misandrist views go ahead, you’re the only person that believes your twaddle.

Actually yes to answer your question, I do believe bringing validity to OP’s thoughts on this matter is helping a damn sight more than inferring she is the problem at that she needs to put up or shut up in order to take control of her own happiness. You have a seriously skewed abusive take on what constitutes a healthy relationship, it’s not that nobody wants to hear it it’s that it’s a completely unfair shaming thought process where you’re choosing to lump the problem at OP’s feet therefore perpetuating the stereotype of cleaning being her job. It’s not, he is a functioning and culpable member of that relationship so he needs to pull his weight it’s that simple, it’s not about letting him wear his own dirty clothes as OP said he didn’t like when she tried to leave his responsibility for him and just do her own, it’s about respect for your partner and your home.

You are oversimplifying this and laying the blame at OP’s feet, the blame is at his feet for choosing to shirk his responsibilities. Though again I genuinely don’t expect you to comprehend this as your views are extreme and unhealthy.

Bbang · 08/04/2019 14:42

Well look at this we all appear to have a similar problem with our DH/DP etc . .

Not sure why clearly none of us are doing our job according to Mr Drummer of taking control of our happiness and ignoring this lazy, unfair behaviour. What silly Billy’s we all are.

OP ignore that tripe, your feeling if frustration and upset are valid and important.

Make him a list of everything you do compared to what he does and sit him down for a come to Jesus talk, he’s one half of your partnership so needs to be putting in 50% of the effort to keep the shared mess, jobs and areas in order. And frankly you have every right to insist on this!

MrDrummer · 08/04/2019 15:18

@snowball28 I am absolutely not suggesting that OP should just do all the cleaning.

he didn’t like when she tried to leave his responsibility for him and just do her own,

Let him not f'king like it then! Why are we trying to please him?

@Bbang Absolutely did not say ignore his behaviour. That is 100% the exact opposite. OP should tell him to get out or say she is leaving because her expectations are different:

Her expectations: He does his share of the laundry in a timely manner.

His expectations: he does the laundry when he feels like and doesn't care if that means him or the OP doesn't have any clean clothes.

Here's the problem: In a free world, nobody can say either it right or wrong, they are just different. Would I want this kind of partner, as him, well, I kind of done it and no I would not want to do that again.

As I already said, these are the views expressed in "The Chimp Paradox" by world renowned psychologist Professor Peter Stevens.

Shazafied · 08/04/2019 17:09

OP should tell him to get out or say she is leaving because her expectations are different

I think it’s safe to assume the OP is asking for advice / ways forward which don’t involve ending the relationship.

TheLastNigel · 08/04/2019 17:23

I have a touch of this with my dp. In fairness to him he has never lived with anyone before me and doesn't have his own kids. Therefore it's a steep learning curve for him.
That said he's been painting our kitchen for three weeks. He is about half way through. I was going to take the kids to their sport on Saturday then going to work.
I asked if he would be finishing the painting because we want it done for Easter ideally. He said 'but I've got the laundry to do'. Yes, one load of laundry. Which unless he was doing with a wash board and mangle would take approx 15 mins to put in the machine, take out and fold when done.
I asked him what he was planning to for for the other 11 hours I would be out for.
He got the point.
It's just different life experience in our case. I've always worked and had two kids and a house to sort-so I just crack on and I find it infuriating that he struggles to do that sometimes.
OP's h doesn't have the same excuse but the reaction is the same-it's not acceptable and he needs to stop cocking about. The idea of the list of things you both do all week is a good one. A good visual map of who has done what should surely shame him into action?

FrenchyQ · 08/04/2019 17:33

My husband is the king of procrastination....I used to make excuses for him as he worked a ridiculous amount of hours but he resigned from his job 3 weeks ago...and in that time hasn't done an awful lot. I have to prompt him to do anything....it is driving me insane!

I'm going to sit down and draw up some kind of rota this evening to see if that helps

MrDrummer · 08/04/2019 17:43

I think it’s safe to assume the OP is asking for advice / ways forward which don’t involve ending the relationship.

It really depends on his engagement, but by the looks of it he isn't willing to engage. I was in a miserable marriage where I was getting constantly complained at because I wasn't the person that my DW wanted me to be (same sort of stuff, I don't do enough around the house, etc). It just pushed me away. I wish I had gotten out sooner, or better still not gone into in the first place. We were very unsuitable for it, but neither of us had the gumption to own the situation. And a lot of misery ensued.

Shazafied · 08/04/2019 19:04

That’s sad @MrDrummer but doesn’t have to apply to everyone. My DH and I are otherwise very happy and have found a system whereby I don’t verbally nag him repeatedly
(I send a message he can refer to later) and he pulls his socks up somewhat.

He still doesn’t do his share around the house and often I need to finish the last 10% of a task.....but I can see has different (lower) standards yet tries to do what I’ve asked, and we have compromised.

And our relationship is still going and is generally happy !

beesgobzzz · 08/04/2019 20:36

Thanks everyone for your responses and advice, I have taken it all on board.

Though I am not looking to leave my husband, just find a way of approaching the household chores/admin that works for both of us.

He isn't completely useless around the house, just seems to get a wall up about certain tasks.

We don't have any plans this weekend, so I think it is a good opportunity to sit down, go through expectations, draw up a list and a schedule.

Hopefully that will set us on a better path.

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