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Husband reads my messages

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Fizzypop2 · 23/03/2019 21:16

So my husband can be a lovely lovely man, supportive, kind, wonderful dad etc etc. But sometimes he can be awful... I’m a sahm and I constantly get accused of being lazy/doing nothing all day etc. He is an angry/aggressive man by nature, just the way he is, compared to me who is placid and won’t say boo to a goose. Sometimes he gets very angry and ‘dark’. As you can imagine this is hard to live with, and although he has his many many good qualities, sometimes I need an outlet.. sometimes I need to talk to my girlfriends about his behaviour. However, he reads my phone.. he reads every message to every friend or acquaintance. I’m careful not to leave my phone where he can access it, but I know he reads it when I’m asleep, or any chance he gets really... if he stumbles across any messages where I’ve talked to someone about his behaviour, he goes nuts. Telling me I’m not respecting him by “slutting him off to everyone”. If he’s discovered I’ve talked to someone he knows, told them what he’s said/done he gets angry because I’ve “slutted him off and made him look bad so that I look better”. If he’s discovered I’ve talked to someone he doesn’t know then I’m “slutting him off to people he doesn’t even know”.

I don’t know what to do. He says I’m wrong to talk to people about him (he says it’s only to make me look better), but not talking to anyone would just, I don’t know, contain the situation...I guess I feel I need to reach outside the marriage sometimes, or I’ll get lost in what’s acceptable and what’s not.

Am I so bad to talk to friends about bad times? I thought that’s what all girlfriends did?

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DpWm · 23/03/2019 21:50

"Slutting me off"...
Is he Australian?
He's a horrible person OP. You're with a
wrong'un.

HollowTalk · 23/03/2019 21:51

Start to make plans, OP. If you're scared, report the thread to MNHQ and ask them to delete it. You can always create another when he's not around. But put yourself and the children first - this man shouldn't be in your future.

PlasticPatty · 23/03/2019 22:24

thing is his ‘dark side’ is maybe 25% of him
How much 'dark side' does it take to kill someone? I had a husband, once. He tried to strangle me. His eyes were glazed, his humanity was 'absent' and he was trying with all his might to kill me. No-one would have said he had a 'dark side'.
Please, quietly, silently, make other arrangements for your life.

peekyboo · 23/03/2019 22:33

I bet that 75% is your version of normal. If you compared the 75% to other people's relationships, I expect it would plummet. Like his mood every time he sees you getting support and friendship with normal people who don't abuse you.

BollocksToBrexit · 23/03/2019 22:45

What do you fear will happen if he sees this?

looondonn · 23/03/2019 23:01

Get out quick
This is not ok
It will not end well

I have been in your shoes

VallarMorghulis · 23/03/2019 23:05

OP I haven't read the full thread, I haven't even finished reading your first paragraph and I can tell you that this man is not a wonderful father or husband, he's an abuser. I'm sure I'm not the first one to say this. You must make plans to leave. We'll support you.

Catren · 23/03/2019 23:07

This all sounds hideous and is Not Okay. Password protect your phone and if he wants to read your texts tell him it's none of his bloody business. I can't imagine my dh trying this on and either of us keeping a straight face. The power dynamic is all wrong here. I think he's a controlling bully and you need to LTB. You deserve better!

VallarMorghulis · 23/03/2019 23:09

Op, would you drink a cup of coffee if I told you it contained 25% of shit? Or even 1%? I bet you wouldn't. But the other 99% is coffee though...

It's the same with your husband. Why should you accept to be treated like shot 25% of the time?

VallarMorghulis · 23/03/2019 23:10

*shit

ScarletBitch · 23/03/2019 23:11

So he is an abusive controlling twat? Put 2 layer security on your phone, get your ducks in a row and leave him.

Catren · 23/03/2019 23:16

dpwm why would he be australian? Do you think we all speak like that down under? 🙄

Dodie66 · 23/03/2019 23:22

Delete messages then he can’t read them

SandyY2K · 24/03/2019 09:11

You shouldn't be badmouthing him to others. I'm sure you wouldn't like it the other way round.

It seems you're talking about him to people he knows and people he doesn't know.

Deal with your issues by talking to him, not telling all.and sundry about your issues, as that is not going to help one little bit.

It's interesting that he doesn't actually deny the behaviour though, so he's fully aware that it's wrong. Perhaps you both could consider professional support in the form of counselling.

xpc316e · 24/03/2019 09:11

Putting a password on your phone is going to stop him from reading your texts, but it will not stop him from wanting to read them, or indeed control any and all aspects of your life.

This is a corrosive relationship that will eat away at you until there is nothing left. Either he needs to become a completely different person (and I don't need to tell you the likelihood of that), or you need to start a new life without him in it. He is definitely not a 'lovely man'.

DrinkSangriaInThePark · 24/03/2019 09:14

You're married to an abuser. You're giving us the classic lines about him being almost perfect... Except when he's frightening the living daylights out of you.

He's an abuser.

Shoxfordian · 24/03/2019 09:18

He sounds abusive
He's controlling and he shouldn't be reading your messages. Lock your phone down so he can't look anymore

PurpleFlower1983 · 24/03/2019 09:20

You’re in an abusive relationship with a controlling arsehole. Unfortunately he won’t change. You need to decide if you can cope with his shitty behaviour. You definitely deserve better and should not have to put up with this shit!

burritofan · 24/03/2019 09:22

OP, please please don't go to counselling with this man as Sandy suggested! Counselling is not appropriate for abusive relationships. If you're able to go alone, great, but it doesn't seem as though he would react well to this.

Sandy, she's not "bad mouthing him to all and sundry". She wants to have private conversations with friends about her husband's abusive behaviour, FFS!

GoldenHour · 24/03/2019 09:25

Firstly, I don't actually think it's acceptable to bitch about your husband via text message to friends. I'd be quite upset to hear if my husband had done that, I think it's different to having a heart to heart for support with friends in person. I hope you're addressing the issues with him that you mention to friends?

However, that said, he should NOT be reading your messages and that's appalling behaviour. He sounds miserable to live with and reading messages is usually just one sign of controlling behaviour where I'm sure he's doing much more.

TowelNumber42 · 24/03/2019 09:26

Keep talking to your friends. Do not let yourself be isolated. Abuse needs silence and dark corners to thrive. That's why he's so scared of you letting people know.

He is not lovely. He is abusive.

Do you believe he would get violent if you stopped him accessing your phone?

sackrifice · 24/03/2019 09:28

Stopping you from talking about him to your friends is part of the isolation tactic of abusers.

Husband reads my messages
MumsyJ · 24/03/2019 09:38

You're living in fear and he's 75% perfect? 🤔

Andrea1234567 · 24/03/2019 09:39

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Fizzypop2 · 24/03/2019 10:07

I don’t mean to be badmouthing or bitching about him to others... but if I don’t talk to a friend or someone when his behaviour becomes dark, then I find I lose power, I don’t trust my own judgement that it’s not ok. Sometimes he is absolutely vile, shockingly so, but if he reads that someone knows, he turns it around on me.. me being the bad one for telling anyone. I don’t know. Maybe I am.

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