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Infidelity in the navy.

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FritzDonovan · 17/03/2019 20:39

Would welcome thoughts from anyone connected to the navy in any way, firsthand experience rather than hearsay, please.

H joined the navy after we'd been together nearly a decade, I knew nothing about the life, but trusted him to continue to be faithful. We have never lived on a married patch for any length of time due to already owning our own home when he joined. When we did, it was one small street with lovely middle aged ladies with DC, so nothing overtly going on there.

On a few deployments, h has come back and mentioned colleagues (even with partners) seeing prostitutes, going to strip clubs, or hooking up with locals. But he assured me he didn't do any of that.

I recently found out that in his first few years living away from me, on base, he had a two month sexual affair with a trampy old friend of his who had shown an interest before he went into the navy, but had a bf at that time. As soon as as h found out they'd split, he was in there. He planned on leaving me for her, but changed his mind (after telling me he was leaving). I had to contact her to find this out, he denied it even when I told him I knew. Of course, he said he'd been completely faithful since then, and had told me everything. Except he hadn't. It's very difficult to verify things that happen while he's away, but I know he developed a porn addiction while telling me he didn't use it, had looked at a full dating profile and possibly others (just out of curiosity ), and he more recently admitted to a sex club while abroad (it was the only thing open at the time... Hmm), skinny dipping, and holding hands with a female colleague on a night out (he can't remember how it happened, he'd had a few drinks). There are also a few odd things I would normally suspect, such as a bunch of emails deleted from his secondary email acc (linked to gaming console) just before coming home from deployment, a search for tinder on google play while away, etc. So I'm almost convinced there's more, but he won't admit to anything big because his trampy friend was the only one I'd be able to contact and prove. The colleague whose hand he held didn't admit it, just said it was inappropriate and blocked me. No outright denial, but no admission either. Guess they're all too cowardly to be honest.

Anyway, after years of telling me not all navy personnel are cheats and liars, I've found out that he's exactly that. I'm not after comments about my particular situation, I've posted in the hope of getting an accurate picture of how rampant this behaviour is, from ppl who have been in, or closely associated with the navy. Are they practically all at it at one time or another? Should I expect there's more? Oh, and he went in as an officer too, so they're not any better than the younger rank and file. Specifically interested in the UK Royal Navy and the Australian RAN, if that makes a difference.

Thanks. Sad

OP posts:
ihatemoving · 17/03/2019 23:15

@FritzDonovan I really can't say anything more than what I already have, which is my experience only.

Most nights away people will go out to eat/ drink together because there's not a lot else to do sometimes.

I think rather than looking at the numbers you need to look at what you already know about your DP. The Tinder search is a massive red flag and I think combined with everything else would be enough for me to call it a day Thanks x

Mintypea5 · 17/03/2019 23:15

I work in a civilian environment with all the services. Started off in a Navy department and sadly could count on one hand the number that didn’t cheat or have girlfriends away from home. I’m very good friends with an ex warrant office (he was serving when we met) and his number 1 advice to me as a 20 something women was never trust a matelot.

I even found out recently the one officer I knew who seemed devoted to his wife was actually cheating on her. Made me rather sad

ScarletBitch · 17/03/2019 23:17

Why are you wanting statistics for OP? What are you hoping to get from it?

FritzDonovan · 17/03/2019 23:19

@FritzDonovan I really can't say anything more than what I already have, which is my experience only.

Yes, I'm not trying to badger you, but you said overall you'd estimate 15%, but it would be higher on deployment or whatever because of alcohol, so I was asking about a % estimate for those occasions. Because h has been away so much. So hes in that pool of ppl, not sitting in dome desk job where he goes home every night. Do you see what I mean?

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FritzDonovan · 17/03/2019 23:22

Why are you wanting statistics for OP? What are you hoping to get from it?
As I explained at the start, h always told me it wasn't common to cheat. Yet it turns out he did. Someone who I don't think would have been suspected as a cheat by anyone (outside of the navy, at least) who knew him. So I'm wondering how rife it is, and if that's just another misdirection of his. Which it strongly appears it might be.

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Mintypea5 · 17/03/2019 23:26

@FritzDonovan I wouldn’t go as far tonsay every service man is a cheat but having worked with all 3 branches for 10 years I’d say cheating is very common. It’s not a secret where I work, I used to go on nights out with the navy lads I worked with and they’d opening be picking up women and laughing / joking about their “aunties”. Telling stories about what they’ve been up to on deployment etc.

I don’t mean to be rude but he’s obviousky going to tell you it’s not common.

FritzDonovan · 17/03/2019 23:31

That doesn't surprise me minty, I thought he had more integrity than he did, but turns out he lies about anything if it potentially casts doubt on him.

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pissedonatrain · 18/03/2019 04:56

It's rampant. Peer pressure is strong.
A relative met her DH in the service and they got out completely shortly after their marriage.

Sadiesnakes · 18/03/2019 05:09

Fritz I remember you being so betrayed by his lying and porn usage. This is so much worse. Surely it's enough now to leave? He's tormented you for years now. You deserve so much more.Thanks

mummamaker · 18/03/2019 05:24

This is so depressing , I live next to a large navy base and cheating is constant from what I hear which is why I have always stayed away from navy guys , now my husband has decided to join the raf 🤦‍♀️

A family member used to work in a local florist and it was crazy the amount of men buying 2 bunches of flowers on Valentine's Day , normally expensive ones to the lady on the base and crappy ones to the wife

scattercushion17 · 18/03/2019 06:26

Are you 100% sure he was faithful before he joined up?

Birdie6 · 18/03/2019 06:38

My ex was Army. It was sickening how much infidelity I witnessed. The men cover for each other as a matter of course. I found out after 9 years that ex had been cheating since the month we were married. Your husband sounds like a typical serviceman - sorry but cheating is rampant in the services. It's like a Boys Club with no rules except " never admit anything, and always cover for your mates"

Kelpies · 18/03/2019 06:42

Serving (but not Navy).
I think if you have it in you to cheat then the military gives you more opportunity to do so than you might in an other profession. Being a relatively small demographic in a confined area it ms rife with gossip and people tend to know other peoples business much more so if someone does cheat, then everyone tends to know it which again might be less of an issue in other occupations.
I also think there has been a change in attitude in the last 10yrs where it has slowly become far less accepted (thankfully) to cheat, go to strip clubs etc.

BerrowHarm · 18/03/2019 13:33

When I lived in a naval town and there was an expression "matelots' groudsheets".

Biscuit23 · 30/08/2021 14:08

Oh man that gives me so much anxiety hearing all this. I’ve been with a guy for 4 years and he’s now joining the Royal Marines. I’ve always said I’m not going to date a military man and this I the exact reason why

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