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Advice needed: Am I overrecting?

34 replies

Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:06

I've posted here before about my marriage. Long marriage, large family. H financially and emotionally abusive in the past and was physicaly abusive once.

I've become much more assertive, told family and things are starting to change. But I don't know if they really have. This is a long post so apologies.

So, I work part time and completing a course after which I will be a professional in my field; higher earning potential etc. We claim certain benefits because H earnings are low and we have an LO with disability. Previous to this we both worked and claimed. Bear in mind he hasn't fully contributed to family outgoings. His earnings are mostly spent on his family back home or other 'business' expenses. I feel anything he has spent on our family doesn't really count because he then uses the money I earn and benefits we get for other non family related expenses, like the ones I just mentioned. Previously I didn't really pull him up on this and if I was I was shut down by a barrage of abuse that I just went along with the status quo.

Recently he's started a business and has spent all his assets on this; money he has earned and kept aside plus some from the account into which my money and benifits go into.

He now claims he cannot run the business on his own as it is affecting his health (he has heart problems) and he has employed someone else to take on about 70% of the work. He wants to continue to save for the next few months and start another business venture which he says will be less stressful (i disagree).

AIBU to be fed up? This has been going on for years. I have been supportive of him as has he with me doing my course. But I really have had enough.

I have told him that he is not contributing to the family and he needs to start to do this now. That I can no longer support him indefinitly with his projects. That we should be spending family money on just the family: bills, food, clothes kids, LO with disability and her needs and outings which involve them such as.occassional outings and holidays, if any money left. He thinks outings and yearly holidays are frivolous and we shouldnt be spending on these things. My argument; you shouldn't be spending on anything else other than family. Honestly, if any of his ventures were successful or if it benefited us in anyway I would happily continue to support him. The only way round this was to seperate our finances. The family money be used for everything and uf any money left for luxuries. He keeps his money seperate for anything he wants to do.

But it's not working. He continually tells us off for using family money for anything other than the basics and then uses the money for his 'business' ideas.

I feel lost and dejected by his behaviour. Idont earn much currently and the benifits aren't a lot plus we have multiple dcs. But I've learnt to budget really well. kids hand me downs, cook from scratch basically keeping costs down so that we can have the occassional luxury. But it becomes really demoralising when all my hard work counts for nothing when he tells us off and constantly withdraws money.

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category12 · 14/03/2019 21:08

Sorry, why are you staying with him?

WhoKnewBeefStew · 14/03/2019 21:11

Why are you still with him? Surely you’d be better off on your own with your dc

Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:12

I'm trying to give him another chance. Because he's the father of my DCs. Honeslty because I'm scared of doing things on my own and the reaction of people around.

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Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:14

I did say this to him and said I'd be better off financially on my own. His reaction is scowling and giving me the silent treatment.

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category12 · 14/03/2019 21:15

Sorry, but he's still financially and emotionally abusing you, maybe he's changed the ways he's doing it, but it's still ongoing.

Essentially, he's keeping you poor so it's harder for you to leave. His new businesses are all about that, not him trying to make a future.

You really need to find a way out.

Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:16

I've been conditioned to believe that it's my job to support him because it will be beneficial for the family in the long term. But honestly I'm so tired!

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Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:18

Oh God! I'd never think this was abuse because it's so aubtle. But deep down I know it is. Sad

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Quartz2208 · 14/03/2019 21:18

Conditioned by who.

You life would be so much better without him and your kids too

Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:21

I'm currently talking to a women's centre because of abuse in the past. Currently just trying to build my self esteem bit I don't know how I would articulate all of this. It took me ages to get all my thoughts together and write it down

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category12 · 14/03/2019 21:21

It is. He's just got more cunning in the ways he's doing it because you've started to be more assertive and recognise it.

Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:21

family and culture Quartz

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MashedSpud · 14/03/2019 21:24

You’re supporting him, you and dc. He’s a selfish man-child who would rather set up businesses that constantly fail than see you and the dc happy.
I’d budget him out of your life when your ducks are in a row if he won’t change.

Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:24

Yes. He's playing the victim that he's working so hard, despite his ill health, for the family and I'm being unsupportive

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Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:26

whenever I ask him about details about business he gets all exasperated and makes me come across as irritating.

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NotTheFordType · 14/03/2019 21:31

I hate to be prescriptive, but he's West African right?

Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:32

He has my family think that I'm obsessed with money. When we had a talk with my family about our difficulties and I told them about his lack of support he got emotional and begged me to tell everyone where his money went if he wasn't spending it on us. I was dumbfounded and couldn't give an immediate response. I was mortified because now it seems like I've been exaggerating my difficulties and hr came across as someone hard done by

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Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:32

No. But you're not far off

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Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:33

Last post at Notthefordtype

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Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 21:36

I've got assignemnts and things due bit I just can't concentrate with all of this going on

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Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 22:19

Thank you all for your support.
I guess I know what to do but it's a case of how and when I do things without upsetting my dcs too much.

Any advice

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category12 · 14/03/2019 22:58

My advice is kind of counterintuitive - don't wait until you finish your course/find professional job. When you get close to that sort of independence, almost certainly there will be some sort of disaster that he'll cause, either work himself up into a health crisis or something with the business. Guaranteed.

Jump sooner and unexpectedly.

7yo7yo · 14/03/2019 22:59

Get your ducks in a row.

  1. Whose name is the house in?
  2. How old are kids?
Seperate your finances totally. Don’t give him access to your earnings See a solicitor This is of the top of my head. There will be wiser posters along soon I’m sure. He is still avusive by the way, just hiding it better.
sackrifice · 14/03/2019 23:01

There doesn't seem much point to him.

Park it for now, ace your exams then ditch this twat.

Singlenotsingle · 14/03/2019 23:08

Can't you separate the a counts so that he has no access to your money? Really, this is all wrong. No way on God's Earth would I be subsidising his messing around when there are dc who are having to go without! He needs to go out and find a job, and start supporting his family! Not leeching off them.

Lemmeavebru · 14/03/2019 23:09

Thank you all so much.
all advice is good.
This is my plan so far.
a) I'm finding it really difficult to concentrate at the mo so ask for a postponement of some sort from uni because of stress etc.
b) get on some sort of anti depressants. they've helped enormously in the past.
c) ask for a temporary seperation (temporary in his eyes permanent in mine)
d) claim as a single parent and start the divorce procedures

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