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If you have a lower sex drive please can you help me understand my DP?

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Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 08:58

Namechanged due to the personal nature of this post, I’m often quite lax about identifying features and I know people who know I’m on here. Sorry it’s a bit long I wanted to be clear!
(I’m female, partner is male just for clarification)

I’ve been with my wonderful DP for nearly 7 years, we’re getting married this year, he’s the love my life, an incredible man and partner, and I couldn’t be without him.
The only problem we’ve ever had in our relationship (apart from the usual tiffs) is sex. I have a much higher sex drive, and honestly a very different approach to sex. For me it’s fun, relaxation, a way to burn off energy and connect with him. It’s an enjoyable activity I’d happily through in at any time of the day!

On the other hand he can happily go weeks and weeks without it, when we do get to it he needs to feel very comfortable and safe, not rushed in any way, need to not be going anywhere for a long time after (if we were going out later it would need to be several hours later). If he’s stressed from work it’s a no (which I completely respect but for me it would be ‘here’s a great way to work off the stress’!) he’s often too tired, despite being young and healthy. It’s almost a chore he needs to fit in (though he doesn’t like it when I phrase it that way) He definitely enjoys the sex we have, has no problems getting or maintaining erections, and we have a very loving and tactile relationship with lots of touching and kissing, it just rarely develops into sex. He says he’d like to want more but just doesn’t really have the drive to go for more. We probably average twice a month? Sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less. It’s been less in the past but we’ve found an equalibrium now we’re better at communicating about it.
As an aside - We tried for a baby for a few months before halting for other reasons, and having to have sex so much more was actually a bit of challenge for both of us as so different from the norm, but really helped build that communication of what does and doesn’t work for both of us to feel good/happy/relaxed. We were having sex pretty much every other day over the fertile period. We were both a bit knackered tbh! (just wanted to mention because I know in other similar conversations ‘how will you try for a baby with a man like this’ has come up, and I wanted to say I have no concerns first)

Essentially what we’ve got to over the years is it’s just not as high up on his priority list. It’s something fun for him but not absolutely essential to the day to day running of our relationship. We’ve been through the challenge of me feeling like it’s me, something wrong with me or that he doesn’t fancy me - I know this is simply not true. He definitely fancies me, his body responds to me, intimacy is not an issue. I respect his right to not want sex as much as me and that’s fine, I’m not breaking up a happy relationship over it and when we do have sex it’s great. I think the biggest challenge was overturning my own societally lead notions of male sexuality - men want sex all the time right? If they don’t something must be wrong! These assumptions hurt men and women alike.

The only thing I’m left with which he can’t really articulate, and I wonder if some here might be able to help me, is I just can’t understand why something that feels good, relaxing, enjoyable, WOULDNT be higher up on the list? It doesn’t really make sense to me. Sure some days we’re all too tired and just want to sleep, but I’d take sex over watching the telly, reading a book, whatever it might be, most of the time. I can’t really understand fancying someone and not wanting that physical closeness and pleasure with them so much because it’s so far from my own experience. I respect that he feels differently but I’d like to understand it better.

I’d be grateful to hear from you if you also don’t want to have sex much despite being in a happy relationship and can perhaps understand where my DP is coming from? Thanks in advance.

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SugarMiceInTheRain · 23/02/2019 09:05

I hope you don't mind but I'm following with interest as I have the same problem with DH of 17 years but just further down the line than you. Apart from the first year or two I've been climbing the walls with frustration for most of our marriage. I've mostly stopped making any moves as the rejection hurts so much. But we have 3 DC and he is a brilliant husband and father so leaving over the lack of sex seems like a massive overreaction. Hope you get some answers on here.

saxatablesalt · 23/02/2019 09:07

There's nothing wrong with your DH's sex drive. It's not abnormal to not want sex much, just as its not abnormal to want lots of sex. The issue comes when your sex drives are mismatched, which is sounds like yours are.

My sex drive isn't very high at the moment. I just can't be arsed a lot of the time. If I want an orgasm I can give one to myself in less than two minutes. I do enjoy sex with my DH who I love and am attracted to but it is not high on my list of priorities. I do not count it as a stress reliever because for me it isn't.

There's nothing wrong with your DH. And there's nothing wrong with you. But you are mismatched, and you may find that becomes a big problem.

Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 09:09

Please do follow, I don’t mind at all. I know it can be a strange and lonely place at times, sorry you’re also dealing with it. So often the advice to women here in this situation is ‘leave and find someone else’ but I don’t want anyone else! Women who want less sex are told their partners should respect this, women who’s partners want less sex are told to leave. It’s a horrid double standard. I’d like to just hear a balance from the other side Smile

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saxatablesalt · 23/02/2019 09:11

So often the advice to women here in this situation is ‘leave and find someone else’ but I don’t want anyone else! Women who want less sex are told their partners should respect this, women who’s partners want less sex are told to leave. It’s a horrid double standard

No one's telling you to leave, but the fact of the matter is this is something in your relationship that likely won't change and will also likely get worse after you have DC. So you need to decide if you can live like it long term or not. It's not a double standard, just a fact.

Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 09:12

Thanks for your response tablesalt. I never said there was anything wrong with him, I know there isn’t and we’re just different. I just wanted to better understand why it wouldn’t be higher up on the priority list when it’s fun, relaxing, enjoyable etc and what that feels like. We are mismatched but I’m ok with that, we’ve been through the problem and I love him as he is. Just looking for a little insight.

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feelingsinister · 23/02/2019 09:12

People just have different preferences and if you're sure that there's no other underlying reason for not wanting sex as often I think it really is as simple as that.

My mate loves running, she runs every day and can't understand why everyone doesn't love running. I love crisps and my sofa, not running. We're all different.

I know that sounds flippant but I don't think it can really be explained to you by other people because everyone is different.

I've been in relationships where I've been the one with the lower sex drive and really couldn't be arsed to have sex twice a day but in others I've wanted sex more than my partner. My partner likes morning sex and is always too tired at night. I like random afternoon shags.
The times when it's been a problem is when there is an underlying cause like stress or problems in the relationship or when one person is really feeling unsatisfied. You just have to work out if it's a deal breaker for you.

saxatablesalt · 23/02/2019 09:13

There's no insight to give, he doesn't want it as much as you in the same way my DH enjoys hiking and I hate it.

I'm not being flippant, but it really is that simple.

Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 09:14

I am fine with it staying as it is or even getting less as we age. Tbh I might be happy he’s not a horn dog when I’ve got small children, am breastfeeding and living on 2 hours sleep as life may go that way. I accept our relationship as it is.

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saxatablesalt · 23/02/2019 09:16

Well then there's no issue is there Smile

NotTheFordType · 23/02/2019 09:17

when we do get to it he needs to feel very comfortable and safe, not rushed in any way, need to not be going anywhere for a long time after

This to me would signal some form of sexual trauma from the past. Such as being interrupted by a parent/sibling/friends while having sex and being shamed and/or ridiculed.

It sounds like he needs to mentally prepare himself well ahead of getting down to it, and then time afterwards to process his emotions and any memories that have come up.

If this is the case - and I would caution that you don't just ask him straight out "Do you have a sexual trauma in your past" (I'm sure you're not tactless enough to do this!) - then he is dealing with it in the best way he can, which seems healthy, but does have the side effect that the "work" of mental preparation and then post-processing puts him off wanting it more often. If I personally knew I would need at least 90 minutes to feel safe and comfortable before the act, then at least 3-4 hours afterwards before leaving the house, the sheer impossibility of this happening on a weekday would mean it was weekends only - but weekends can also be busy.

For me personally I would never marry a man who had such a different sex drive to me, unless it was accepted that the marriage would not be monogamous.

Hollylolly28 · 23/02/2019 09:20

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one! I think the hardest part is not blaming yourself and thinking oh he's not attracted to me or whatever. We do have a child together, so it probably will get worse for you as its another excuse

Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 09:21

Notthefordtype I understand how you’ve got to that from how I’ve worded that but it’s definitely not the case. There’s no anxiety or worry. It’s more ‘doesn’t want it on the kitchen floor, we need to go bed or sofa and no one needs to be knocking on the door for at least 2 hours’ kind of comfortable and safe rather than needing support to actually have sex. Apologies if my wording is misleading. I have a complicated sexual history bound up with some mental illness in my youth, we’ve been very open about our sexual pasts and there definitely isn’t an issue of that kind here.

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DoctorManhattan · 23/02/2019 09:21

I’m not really sure if there’s any quantifiable answer that anyone can give you. You can analyse all the things that affect libido - stress, health, age, sexual function, partner, schedules, work, and many more - but the simple fact is there are so many variables which change from day to day and week to week that it’s difficult to answer.

Obviously if someone’s libido suddenly drops or peaks and it’s unusual, you can narrow it down to a recent change, but if your partner has always been this way you may just have to accept that this is the way he is. I’m a male and would be content with a couple of times per week. For others, their libido is higher and they want it every night.

Whilst you list all the positive things about sex and on paper we should all want it as often as possible, the reality is that it does take time and effort and energy, so for most of us there’s a balance between our natural desire/libido and our energy levels.

Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 09:23

If he’s in the right mood we can go for it the minute we get in the door sometimes - we’d jsut go to bed rather than on the hall floor or against a wall! That’s what I mean by comfortable

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Scott72 · 23/02/2019 09:23

I think that with lower libido can come reduced sexual sensation. It feels good, but the reduced pleasure reduces the impetus for all the effort sex takes.

vdbfamily · 23/02/2019 09:24

I am someone who really enjoys sex when it happens and often ask why we don't do it more often but I think that is both being in the right mood at the same time just does not happen that regularly. We started well matched and usually made love daily when first married(possibly because we were both virgins and had waited a long time!!) but after several years and several children, once a week is enough for both of us. If you do have children, you may well find you are happy with twice a month due to general exhaustion but will have to hope the same does not happen to him.
We used to find that a goodnight cuddle used to turn into more most of the time. What happens if you initiate a good night cuddle?!

DoctorManhattan · 23/02/2019 09:25

Also, with regards to your partners need for total relaxation, it does sound a little strange (quickies can be just as fun and exciting) - from my male viewpoint, I would question if he has had some erectile disfunction or performance issues in the past (even if he seems fine now) and is worried he can’t perform if he feels any inkling of pressure for time etc.

Iggly · 23/02/2019 09:26

I wonder if some here might be able to help me, is I just can’t understand why something that feels good, relaxing, enjoyable, WOULDNT be higher up on the list

This sounds my dh. Sex is enjoyable yes but to get to the enjoyable place, I have to put aside all of my tiredness, stress and other mental niggles in order to enjoy it.

I can’t just switch off and have sex.

My dh can, even if we’ve had an argument which isn’t unresolved.

I have to hold part of me back if I’m not 100% happy, and that’s quite a mental hurdle for me.

saxatablesalt · 23/02/2019 09:27

it probably will get worse for you as its another excuse

It's not an "excuse". Hmm

CaptainCallisto · 23/02/2019 09:28

I'm the one with the lower sex drive in our relationship - love cuddles and snuggling up but very seldom feel I want sex. I love it when we have it, I just don't often want it. It doesn't mean I don't love or trust DH, it just means I don't need full blown sex to feel intimate with him.

I'm often touched out by the kids and my brain is fried from constant stress and interaction at work, so by the time we get to the kids being in bed and having time when we could...I just can't face the idea of it. It's like sensory overload - I just need headspace and time to relax and recharge.

Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 09:30

VBD there’s lots of good night cuddles they just don’t usually evolve into anything more. By the time we’re in bed it’s usually late and sleep time, I’ve tried often to encourage earlier nights to facilitate sex but if doesn’t usually make a difference. He has to be in the mood to want to go to bed earlier.

To others - no physical performance issues that would cause a problem. We’ve been together since early twenties. But possibly some concern about wider performance if pressed for time, which is actually fine and just means we only have sex when we have that time. We do have the odd quickies, but they’re not likely to be regular occurrence. He’s also circumsized which I think may have reduced physical sensation.

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Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 09:33

Iggly that makes a lot of sense. I can switch of an argument or work annoyance pretty easily, whereas he takes much longer. I could go from a full blown shouting row to having sex in five minutes, he’d need at least a day

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Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 09:35

As you’re saying he definitely needs to have complete headspace from any other crap, whereas for me the sex would create the headspace, IYSWIM?

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Quickchangeinthewings · 23/02/2019 09:50

Pondering in the shower I think the goal of trying to understand is more to help me know better when he might be open to me initiating and it be a relaxed thing rather than him feeling bad for saying no and me feeling bad he’s said no. If I could read the signs better I could approach it better.

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bigsister951 · 23/02/2019 10:18

One thing I would say is it tends to get worse over time too, especially when children come along so you need to be aware of this. There is a good chance that this will frustrate you the whole of your married life.