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OH lost it. Am I overreacting?

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JaneyJimplin · 18/02/2019 20:50

We had a minor misunderstanding this morning. He assumed I was pissed off, but I wasn't, and I assured him of that.

I went out to do some errands. I ended up having a really terrible morning with various things going wrong, and receiving some bad news about a dear friend. So, an emotional morning.

I came home and he starts on me again about this minor disagreement. I simply said "Ive actually had a really awful morning, I've already said I'm not bothered about this morning. I really don't want an argument now, I already feel upset."

And he just blew up. He shouts "I'm trying to talk to you, you've had your say. Listen to me or I swear I'll punch something."

So I held my hands up and calmly repeated I don't want an argument, can he leave me alone. I start walking away and he's going mental at me shouting not to walk away from him. I did walk away, because he was terrifying me. I shut the door and he's shouting "don't you fucking walk away and shut the door when I'm talking."

And then he starts smashing the house up. Threw the shopping I'd bought across the room, kicked the chairs and table over, threw the kitchen stools at wall etc just in a blind rage.

Honestly I was so terrified. He's never been like that, it was so scary. So I ran up the stairs and shut myself in the bathroom and he came up shouting and pushed his way in. I screamed at him to leave me alone and said he was scaring me. The whole time he was just bellowing at me, screaming just random horrible things. I shut him out again and again he pushed his way in, and I screamed at him to get out and screamed that he was being like my dad. And then he stormed off, still shouting random shit about me.

My whole body was shaking, I genuinely feared that he was going to physically attack me because I've never seen him like that it was so out of character. He's obviously a lot bigger and stronger than me. It took me a while to calm down, I think i was in shock. Actually think I still am.

I went down stairs and he's cleaning up the mess he's made.

I told him hed really scared me and id thought he was going to attack me.

He was apologetic that he'd lost his temper, although still trying to argue his point about the morning disagreement. He said of course hed never hit me, but he was a total stranger when he lost it - I think if I'd argued back or wound him up instead of retreating, I could see him lashing out at me. Maybe not, I don't know. It was like he was possessed.

Basically I just don't know how to feel now. I feel really disappointed in him and I don't want to look at him. 20 years I've know him, he's hot headed but he's never scared me before. It was such a horrible feeling.

The thing is, I grew up in a abusive household. So things like shouting and throwing around furniture really, really trigger me. So maybe I'm overreacting? Maybe I overreacted because it felt scarier to me becayse of my childhood?

Right now he's acting all maudlin, and limping because he hurt his foot kicking the furniture. Am I meant to be sympathetic? I don't feel like he's that sorry. He just said he was annoyed because he thought I was wound up about the morning disagreement (even though I think we've established by now that I wasn't!) And also he said he was getting increasingly angry as the morning went on because he was doing a diy project that went wrong. And then he just flipped. He also pointed out that he's upset too, I upset him. And I said, ok but you scared me. You made me feel unsafe but I don't think he fully understands what's it's like to be the woman in these situations. I said "what if the kids had been here and seen that?" But he didn't have an answr.

I just needed to tell someone, can't say this in real life or they'd never look at him the same way.

OP posts:
Mysterycat23 · 19/02/2019 04:01

It annoys him when you cry? He was angry because you didn't stop loading washing to look at him and then you started to cry and he got angrier?

So there's a massive backstory here, an undercurrent of emotional abuse. He has worn you down. You're under reacting. Is there family or friends you could stay with?

cordeliavorkosigan · 19/02/2019 04:46

His behaviour is absolutely appalling. Totally unacceptable even once. How scary. And the undercurrent of how it was your fault because of the minutiae of your behaviour is chilling. So is his spent complete lack of remorse and continued attempts to blame you.

Shoxfordian · 19/02/2019 05:12

He's abusive and you need to leave him
No other option

Coyoacan · 19/02/2019 05:40

I was not abused as a child, no shouting at all in my home, and I was terrified reading your account. I think you are in fact minimising this situation, certainly not overreacting.

I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

catzrulz · 19/02/2019 05:56

Oh OP, I hope you are safe now. You mentioned a health issue with one of your DC, where were they when this happened?
Please, please think about your and DC's future. How would you feel if this happened to one of your DC? What would you be telling them to do? Do you have DC that live at home, if you do it must be obvious to them something happened earlier today, please, please think of yourself and ask him to leave, even if you have to have someone round while you do that in case he reacts badly.
You say your Mum won't be much help, do you want to be like her in another 20 years?
Sending strength your way, you must know what you have yo do.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 19/02/2019 06:23

I think if you’re too embarrassed to tell your friends, then you already know he’s crossed a line

JaneyJimplin · 19/02/2019 07:12

Novel, Thank you.

Peeky, I think you're right there actually. Normally I would placate him, but I'd just had enough already and couldn't. I do think I manage his behaviour somewhat, in the same way I do to head off my children having tantrums!

Steeve - a lot of that link definitely sounds like my dad, I'm not sure about OH. Maybe.

OP posts:
JaneyJimplin · 19/02/2019 07:15

Catz, no they weren't here. I want to think he wouldn't have got that angry if they were here. But then... if he could have controlled himself in front of them, why not with me? Or, if he couldn't have controlled it, then the kids would've seen and that's unacceptable. I won't have them growing up feeling the fear I felt/feel.

Whoknew - he's, hes definitely crossed a line

OP posts:
GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 19/02/2019 10:15

That sounds like a terrifying situation to be in.

And unacceptable.

Does he acknowledge that he has these rages? I would say that this was serious enough to warrant a 'Get some anger management counselling or get out' conversation.

He can't undo what he did.

And you can't live in fear of him doing it again.

He has irrevocably changed everything.

Have you spoken this morning?

JaneyJimplin · 19/02/2019 10:43

He left for work before I woke, which is normal. I haven't spoken to him. He made usual small talk with the kids at dinner last night. I don't know if hes hoping to just sweep it under the carpet. I don't know what to say to him, I don't really want to be in the same room as him tbh. I feel like there's been a shift.

OP posts:
IvanaPee · 19/02/2019 11:04

Seriously. Tell him to leave.

If this was an anomaly instead of the start of or escalation of his behaviour he’d have been killed apologising last night instead of sitting on his arse watching football, and he’d have offered to leave to give you space.

Tell him to leave, OP. Even for a while.

DirtyNumbAngel · 19/02/2019 11:07

Hi OP,
Flowers
First of all you are completely blameless in this it is totally on your husband. It doesn't matter how many years he hasn't done this. It's terrible how he's acted and his behaviour since both ring many alarm bells with me. I bet if you scrutinised past behaviour you would see subtle abuse acts.

Secondly My EA narc Ex did this. they are spoiling for a fight and will use the 'why are you being weird? what are you in a mood about?' thing as a way to start off a row

I know its not always easy to LTB but he's shown you who he really can be. BELIEVE HIM!

Good luck OP xx

Beelzebop · 19/02/2019 11:17

OP, I am in a similar situation, but I forgave it. Which was a mistake. Now everything is such a mess. He will do this again. The main effect that I've found is that it's never, ever the same. Our perfect peach of a relationship started rotting when he first got angry. Now, it's unsalvageable because frankly I don't think deep down I can ever forgive him or trust him. He's spoilt it and he needs to go, for your mental well-being. I just wish I could take my own advice. Good luck.

timeisnotaline · 19/02/2019 13:17

message him op - say you are scared of him and don’t want him to come home tonight.
See how you feel, I bet you will feel much better for having said it but also frightened of how he will react. Because he’s violent and frightening, it’s another sign that leaving is the right thing to do.

timeisnotaline · 19/02/2019 13:17

And call the police if he appears.

Asta19 · 19/02/2019 15:21

I feel like there's been a shift

That's because there has. This is a pivotal moment. Let him sweep it under the carpet this time and we can all promise you it will be worse next time. Either ask him to leave or you and the kids leave. Even if it ends up not being permanent. I understand the desire not to rock the boat once things are calm but if you don't take a stand now, you will struggle to get any power back in this relationship. So many of us have been there and made all the mistakes. If you excuse this episode, then you will make an excuse for the next one and the one after that. By that point you will be so weak and scared that you won't have the strength to take any action. This is exactly how abusers get their victims right where they want them.

Please understand, a non abusive man would be horrified to have acted that way and would have been seeking help immediately. An abusive man minimises, blames the victim, and sweeps things under the rug.

peekyboo · 19/02/2019 17:20

It worries me that your kids seeing this would have been a step too far, but that him doing it to you was not a step too far. Do you see how bad that is, how much you undervalue yourself?

It is a step too far, that's all, whether or not your kids were there.

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