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Were these good enough reasons to leave my husband?

43 replies

Jkgoober11 · 15/02/2019 23:42

1.We have never once kissed with any passion. I know from past I’m a good kisser, but it is awkward. Our sex life has never been good, he is timid and has never taken off his shirt in the entire time I’ve known him. Does not show interest in pleasing me (has never performed oral, doesn’t touch me for more than 2 seconds, etc)

He calls himself a workaholic. Says he’d work 100% of time if left to his own devices and chose me to force balance into his life. This translates into him barely spending time with me unless I convince him to, and him calling me “needy” for wanting to spend normal amounts of time together on weekends because he doesn’t need nearly as much interaction with me.

Never contributes to joint savings account. Took years off from grad school bc he couldn’t stand others telling him how to spend his time. Has a dozen startup ventures and only half develops any of them before trying to sell them off; has made $0. If I ever gently suggest he focus his efforts he gets oddly angry and tells me I’m not allowed to suggest he limit his work. Once told me he wanted a divorce after I asked some critical questions about a project that he chose to spend our entire vacation morning talking about.

Has a post grad training program he could do pretty much anywhere, 5 years. I moved for him once, to our current city, even though far from my family. Now wants me to move again even though this whole career is his “backup plan” after entrepreneur stuff, he could get good training here, and I (the breadwinner by far) am now very settled with A very difficult to find job in terms of both time off and matching my exact career interests. I’m also pregnant and not interested in starting to work twice as hard elsewhere (which will result in much higher childcare costs) and undergoing stress of new job and move at that time. He says he would have stayed here if I “respected and supported him,” yet the only reason I don’t is because he’s willing to ignore all this and see his baby only on weekends for 5 years! (He blames me for “breaking up the family” by not moving.)

He is kind and gentle and generally agreeable. Though Even my mom feels though he does the right things on paper , there somehow seems to be some emotion lacking, and he’ll do just enough to get by like come on family trip for 1-2 days then say he “has to work”!(self invented projects)

I knew his flaws but married him after convincing myself they shouldn’t matter so much. That good sex isn’t everything (though we barely had mediocre), or his total financial immaturity (he doesn’t even know i pay $ for his health insurance premium) should be overcome by how super frugal and successful financially I am. But the result is no attraction to him

OP posts:
TortoiseLettuce · 15/02/2019 23:43

If you’ve already left isn’t it a moot point?

adayatthebeach · 15/02/2019 23:54

Do you think we would suggest going back to him? I wish you well and a much happier life.

BearFoxBear · 16/02/2019 00:00

Yes, he sounds like a shitty husband.

TinDogTavern · 16/02/2019 00:03

Christ yes. He sounds dreadful.

Yankeesgrl · 16/02/2019 00:11

Where this is coming from is: he generally seemed a very kind and dependable person. Soft, gentle. And knowing he’d always stay loyal to me- even if frankly because he doesn’t want to spend additional time on relationships over working- made me feel like, shouldn’t I be willing to overlook these other things? But they have resulted in me feeling Unattracted to him and like there’s no passion and at age 30 I don’t know if I can really face the rest of my life being without that.

FairyMoppings · 16/02/2019 00:12

It's irrelevant if we think you were right to have left him as you've already done it.

But if I were to put myself in your shoes, I would never have married him. No passion, crap sex, no quality time spent together, terrible with money, emotionally unavailable, self-centred...

All I can think is, wtf did you consider him marriage material? No sex isn't everything, but as far as I can tell he had nothing else to put into a fulfilling relationship anyway

Closetbeanmuncher · 16/02/2019 00:16

Not kissed with any passion and financial immaturity would be enough for me!!

His behaviour is completely unreasonable, and is dragging you down.

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MyKingdomForBrie · 16/02/2019 00:17

That was a bad call, marrying him. Definitely call it quits.

DontCallMeDaisy · 16/02/2019 00:51

Just wanting to leave a relationship is a good enough reason. There were more than enough reasons to want to leave.

You're right, you shouldn't have to move. Pregnant and the main breadwinner, your job and security is rightly your priority.

Stop beating yourself up. You have so much of your life agead of you.

rvby · 16/02/2019 01:33

A shit shag who holds you at arms length for the sake of a career that makes no money. And yet you say "he does the right things on paper".

I'm extremely confused. What was it that you thought he did well? He was sexually bad, emotionally cut off, and didnt contribute financially.... was he really good at housekeeping? Really struggling to come up with anything else that would have made this marriage worthwhile...

Very strange post.

Why are you asking? Are you looking for reassurance that you were right to leave the relationship? If so - yes you were. It's very difficult to imagine why you married him to start with.

altiara · 16/02/2019 12:57

Of course they’re good enough reasons - each one of them on their own, never mind ALL of them together. Go and enjoy life without a man that has you’re not sexually attracted to and can’t manage his money.

Yankeesgrl · 16/02/2019 13:21

Thank you all. I married him bc I reasoned w myself that I’m at an age where I should settle down and look for stability, not passion, and that my super responsible nature and great job would compensate for his financial irresponsibility. But him being a workaholic and defensive to the point that me asking critical questions about a project resulted in him asking for a divorce the week after I found out I was pregnant, started to kill any desire I had for him more and more, feeling like a second priority. And he has barely even come to a single doctors appt the whole pregnancy and never makes comments that my friends make, such as “we’ll get to take the baby out here after she’s born” or “I can help you even in the middle of the night!” He just talks about how we should hire a night nanny (we = me since he has no money) since he’s not getting up when he’s in his training program.

Lucked · 16/02/2019 13:26

You only get one life. It sounds like there are no children to consider and you are unhappy. It as a mistake to marry him and maybe you should apologise for that but you can’t stay with him because of it.

PlinkPlink · 16/02/2019 13:27

The lack of passion would be enough for me.

Been there. Struggled through a 10 year relationship. 4 years were ok. 6 were just awful.

No passion. Emotional abuser. Lack of empathy. Narcissistic to a point.

Just awful.

I vowed NEVER to stay in a relationship where I was unhappy. I vowed NEVER to stay in a relationship with a fucking boring sex life.

Don't underestimate the importance of sex. It's intimacy. It's passion. It's love. If that's fucking boring even after trying, then I'd say to anyone to move on...

Lucked · 16/02/2019 13:28

Cross post, see you are pregnant but I still think what I wrote above applies, in fact even more so as he appears completely disinterested in your child and does not sound like he will be a good father, although I hope he rises to the challenge and surprises you but I suspect he will be very low contact.

starzig · 16/02/2019 13:34

If kids are involved then no.
If you have no kids then fine if you are happy to be tagged as a divorcee.
Divorce should be a last resort if you are in danger from your husband.

Madratlady · 16/02/2019 13:45

Ignoring Starzig who appears to have time travelled from the 1950s.....

Yes, those reasons make him sound very hard work to be married to and as if you didn’t get any consideration in return. Realistically if something is making you unhappy enough to leave and he won’t make an effort to address the issue it’s a good enough reason.

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 16/02/2019 13:57

Simply not wanting to be with your husband is a valid enough reason.

zippey · 16/02/2019 15:08

You both sound as bad as each other. Split up and hope you both find happiness with other people. You both want different things and sounds like he just isn’t into you either!

Sometimes things don’t work out.

Anniegetyourgun · 16/02/2019 15:53

You both sound as bad as each other

No they don't! Not even close. Although it's fair to say the H doesn't sound like a horrible person - just not one suited for marriage and children. He needs a woman who doesn't like sex and will happily fund him and tag all over the country after his hobby, which he euphemistically calls work. I really can't see the point of a workaholic who doesn't earn any money, unless you like your partner being out of the house a lot. Some do.

As for this one... "tagged as a divorcee"? What does that even mean?

Yankeesgrl · 16/02/2019 22:00

Thanks everyone! I struggle thinking I should just settle, as I can have a reasonably nice time with him and he comes to some family events (just always limits it on account of “work”) and that way we’lll be together for the baby. I’m most depressed thinking about never having a good sex life or passion, even passion for seeing him or being around him or feeling attracted.

Middersweekly · 17/02/2019 10:49

From what I can gather you are two completely different people. You are the financially dependable and reliable person and he is a daydreamer with a child like thought process. There is nothing wrong with either in essence, but he is taking financial risks that are not paying off and you’re baring the brunt of the financial burden. This would be ok if for example he was willing to be a stay at home parent while you worked but...it doesn’t sound like he wants this responsibility and quite frankly he is getting way more out of this marriage than you are. The lack of intimacy is another issue and it sounds like you’re lacking that side of the relationship also. If I were you I would cut my losses. My mum has just divorced after 22 years to a man who spent his life mismanaging money and who acted like a child frivolously spending whilst she worked hard to ensure they had a roof over their head. Needless to say he’s just walked away with half the proceeds of her house (bought and paid for entirely by her). Get out now while you’re young and able to move on with your life!

AgentJohnson · 17/02/2019 11:09

Wrong question! Why weren’t the many incompatibilities that existed from the very beginning, enough not to marry him in the first place.

Yankeesgrl · 18/02/2019 05:09

I’m torn. If I could somehow just get myself to respect him & the fact that he spends endless hours we could’ve been together on “work” which is running around from 1 entrepreneur idea to another only half finishing any of them, and making $0 after 3 years of this... he is still going through w the training program that will ultimately net him a high salary after 7 years, though now he’s severely delayed it... why can I not just make peace with all this? It just kills my attraction to him, that he has no grasp on finances and even paid a laundry service before we moved in together “because my
Time is way better spent working, my companies will be far more profitable than what the service costs”- again they’ve made $0. I feel he’s sweet and innocent but I have no sexual attraction to him and never really did bc it was always awkward, he would never be assertive and voice what he wanted, never spent time exploring or asking what I wanted (and didn’t really act on it when I told him), etc. but sex isn’t everything and can’t I just ignore his flaws for the sake of having a simple non divorced life? I mean he is good to me otherwise...

LellyMcKelly · 18/02/2019 05:18

You only need one reason to leave - because you want to.