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Can we come back from this?

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CoffeeChocolateWine · 12/02/2019 22:03

My DH and I have been together for 14 years, married for 8 and have 3 DC aged 10, 6 and 8 months. I’ve always felt our relationship was strong...we’ve had ups and downs over the years like any relationship but always felt that we had each other’s back, we’re united and generally felt like I’d married one of the really good men out there.

But over the past year he has let me down spectacularly. After making the decision to try for a third child and getting pregnant, he’s had some kind of mid-life crisis. Quite early on in my pregnancy he started making comments that he was ‘struggling to excited’ about having another baby. In my second trimester, it was very clear that I was expecting a very big baby, I was tired, heavy and really suffering with heartburn but really tried to keep upbeat and busy but he told me that he felt that he and the kids were really suffering as a result of me and my pregnancy. A few weeks before I was due to,give birth, he told me that he’d changed his mind, didn’t want another baby and if he could turn back time he would undo it, leaving me understably very upset at a time when I really could have done with his full support.

During the very early weeks after our DD was born, he was largely absent...he threw himself into his work, went to every conference, work jolly and networking event going and I basically felt abandoned to look after the baby (who at that point had undiagnosed CMPA so lots of screaming), a very emotional 5yo who was struggling to adapt to not being the baby of the family anymore, and a 9yo who felt he needed to step up and comfort his little sister because I had my hands full with the baby and my husband just wasn’t there. It was an incredibly hard time and he basically just left me to it and didn’t seem to give a shit. After a few weeks, we had an argument where he said that he didn’t see why his life should have to change at all after having a baby because it was me who wanted the baby not him. He said the words ‘you’ve got what you want now, so now I’m doing what I want’. It also transpired that he had started getting close to a young woman (in her twenties - we are early forties) who he consistently lied to me about by omission and later lied to my face about spending time with. There was no affair but there is no doubt in my mind that it was heading that way had I not found out about. This is a very edited version...there’s too many things that I could write about but it has been a horrible horrible time.

Anyway, fast forward to now. We have had some very long and emotional chats where I’ve told him how much his actions and words have hurt me, I’ve felt completely taken for granted and undervalued, the way he has treated his baby daughter is despicable, I’ve lost trust in him etc etc. He’s shown a lot of genuine, I think, remorse. He has also totally fallen in love with our baby and is making an effort to help and bond with her. He has agreed to counselling and is making a real effort to make things better between us and rebuild the trust.

But, the thing is...after everything that has happened, I don’t feel the same. I never thought he could let me down and treat me as badly as he has. Not only was he unsupportive at a time when I really needed his support, he actually made a challenging time one hell of a lot harder because of his behaviour. When I look back on my DD’s babyhood, I will always remember what a shit time he put me through when I should have been enjoying her. He’s ruined that for me. He is making such an effort now but I feel bitter and resentful. I look at him bonding with our daughter and feel that he doesn’t deserve her. He keeps telling me that he’s ‘struggled to adapt’ to having another baby but that ‘things are getting better now’, but I just think it’s a piss poor excuse and that things aren’t getting better because I’ve seen him in a different light now and things have changed forever. We’re going to go to counselling but I’m starting to wonder if I can ever move on from this. I don’t know what I’m asking really. Has anyone been through this and got through it? Is this salvageable? I would do anything to keep my family together but my husband is not the man I thought he was.

OP posts:
Adora10 · 14/02/2019 11:30

And just for the record, I think you are absolutely marvellous OP, you have basically held your family together, he has done jack shit to take care of you or his kids.

Take your time, tell him he is on probation, yes, seriously, words are cheap, watch his actions from now on and see what he is showing you, you will decide in time if he is worth it or not; you are quite rightly questioning this man's morals and dependability and you are entitled to do so!

CoffeeChocolateWine · 14/02/2019 11:55

Gah! I'm so confused and my head is all over the place. I listen to him and it sounds plausible and then I read comments on here and think I'm being lied to again, I try to see things from his side and realise I'm not without fault, and then come on here and have you all saying he's minimising and reading from a script! I don't know who to believe or what to think Sad

I think I'm not being totally naive here. I know that him having a full on affair with this woman is not beyond the realms of possibility and I've got my eyes open to that. If that does transpire to be true then there is no going back for us. But my gut is telling me that things haven't got that far yet. We've both made some errors in our relationship (him more so) and we are talking about them better than we have in months possibly years. I don't feel ready to jack it all in over him having his head turned at a shitty time in our relationship. If there is even the smallest chance that we could get through this and come out stronger then I want to explore it. We owe our family that. But I won't be treated like shit again. I feel like the fog of the early baby months made me just plough through and get on with things but I am thinking clearly now. I admit the prospect of being a single parent of three is scary but there is a strong woman in me...I haven't seen her for a bit but I know she's there!

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53rdWay · 14/02/2019 12:31

He said that when he told me that he didn't want a third baby that was him trying to reach out and tell me how he was feeling but I shut him down.

But he wasn’t actually telling you how he was feeling, was he, other than telling you he didn’t want another baby? And you were a few weeks off giving birth at the time! Of course you ‘shut him down’ on that, what were you supposed to do, turn back time?

I think his feelings around all of this, including feeling wronged and neglected by you, may be entirely genuine descriptions of how he feels. But to rebuild a relationship he - and you - need to acknowledge that he dealt with his stress incredibly badly, he expected you to be some kind of limitless emotional sponge soaking up his problems without feelings of your own, and that this was not fair of him. Not just “oh well I suppose I could have handled that better”, but “I was entirely wrong to blame you for neglecting my feelings when a) I didn’t tell you about them and b) you were in hospital recovering from birth with our sick newborn at the time.”

If you can’t reach that kind of level then you may be able to re-establish some kind of equilibrium for now, but you’re going to get to a point further down the road where you think “WAIT a bloody minute here!” when the full impact of that all sinks in.

Johjohbee · 20/02/2019 22:02

I have a small idea of what you're going through. DH and I are in our early 40's and have been together for 14 years now too. Found out 6 months ago that he had spent the past year carrying on an online emotional affair with someone 20 years younger. The betrayal is devastating!

A LOT of talking and counseling has gone on since then and I would say we're doing so well now. Not perfect. Counselor says it takes a year or two before I'll start completely trusting him and stop doubting, but we're moving forward.

What sounds so familiar in your post is his awful ability to communicate and then pulling away because of that instead of just talking to you. That was exactly what happened in my relationship.

I really wish you all the best. You're the only one who knows the right choice for you, but you don't have to throw everything away just because he screwed up. It is possible to come out the other side.

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