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TRIGGER WARNING SEXUAL ABUSE. My mum stayed with my stepdad after finding out about abuse - an update!

62 replies

GunpowderGelatine · 27/01/2019 14:02

Firstly, sorry for the essay. Some of you will be familiar with my story as I’ve posted about it for some time on MN, and have been given amazing support and advice. I have always said I'll check back in and and I have an update.

To recap a little - my mum married my stepdad when I was 4, and on a few occasions as a child he touched and rubbed my private parts and once tried to put his penis in my mouth. I was six years old at the time. There are a few other memories of sexual abuse I have.

Then when I was 16 until I was 19 and left for Uni, he sexually harassed me on a daily basis. This includes:
⁃ exposing himself to me regularly
⁃ Standing naked masturbating in the hallway when I came out my the bathroom (he must have been listening for when the shower went off)
⁃ Talking “dirty” to me through the walls of my room
⁃ Putting the adult channels on my tv so they were there when I turned it on
⁃ Offering me money for sex and leaving sex toys in my room

Some of the above even happened when my mum was in the house, and is only a tiny proportion of what he did. I cant begin to express how utterly terrified I was for 3 years in my own home. I was rarely in the house, I spent a lot of time with friends. And I never told anyone for fear of being hurt by him or not being believed.

One day my mum told me she knew what was going on. She’d seen him grab my bum in the kitchen one day and saw me look upset. She confronted him and he confessed to the harassment (but played it down and lied about how long it was going on for). She said she was going to leave him, that it was over etc. It wasn’t, she stayed, and it was never spoken about for years (but the harassment did stop) and after I left for Uni they moved abroad.

In the years following she really tried to push a father/daughter relationship on to me WRT stepdad. She even forced me to let him give me away on my wedding day, which ruined the day for me, I can’t even look at pictures. She emotionally blackmailed me into buying him birthday and Christmas presents. It’s like the abuse never happened.

Then I had my DD. And my mum sent personalised presents with “gran and grandad” and talked about how SD was so excited to meet ‘his granddaughter’. It turned my stomach, and when DD was a few weeks old (she had met her by then, he hadn’t) I emailed her to say that he will never ever meet my daughter, under any circumstances, and that I’m furious at both of them for the abuse and the minimising and pretending it never happened. She replied to say she understood and still thought about it but doesn’t like to talk about it. The next day she was hospitalised with a “heart episode” and I felt terrible as I felt I caused that. But I’ve stuck to my word he has never met DD nor my DS who came along 3 years later.

A few years later when I was pregnant with DS she left him and moved back to the UK - not because of what he did to me but because he said she was turning into her mother, that was apparently the final straw Hmm when she came back, i had grown a lot more confident and realised none of the abuse was my fault, and my mum staying with him doesn’t mean that what he did was no big deal. So I started talking about it with her, I wanted answers and explanations. She kind of spoke about it with me but would often throw her hands to her face and say “I just can’t speak about it it’s too much” despite me practically begging her to engage with me on this. I told her about the abuse in child hood (she never knew before, she only thought I was harassed as a teenager) and told her everything that I remember he did in later years.

After living back in the UK for about 4 months (he was begging her to return BTW) she went to visit a friend down south and took her dog (this is relevant). her friend who lived abroad called her to say that her (the friend’s) husband had died suddenly. Mum booked a ferry back to attend the funeral and rang us to ask if we’d come and collect her dog and watch him til she got back. We said no - I was heavily pregnant with a very high risk pregnancy and it would have been a 6 hour round trip. Plus DD was only 3 and the dog was old and didn’t like children and had a tendency to bite. She refused to put him in kennels So she took the dog back - and never returned. Went back to her husband (though insisted at the time they weren’t together, she was just there to help sell the house).

We basically after this went back to square one - stopped talking about the abuse, pretending it didn’t happen again and never mentioning it. She talks about him all the time like it’s normal to be with a man you know is a paedophile. It sounds stupid but my mum intimidates me and it’s not as easy to confront her on issues as you might think.

I started counselling after this, and realised I needed, if not closure, at least answers, explanations and apologies. For the first time I considered going to the police.

Well she went back to him 2 years ago now, and she just visited this week. I mustered up the courage on her last night to say “I NEED and deserve answers from you both, I will not spend the rest of my life in distress because you two would rather pretend it didn’t happen, you both owe me this”. After about 30 seconds she dropped the bombshell that, abut 18 months ago, she tried to kill herself in her garage using the car and exhaust. And of course hero stepdad came to the rescue, pulled her out and gave her a good talking to 🙄 I did suspect that like the “heart episode”, she would have something saved for me which is another way of saying “you can’t be too mean to me because then I’ll hurt myself/have a heart attack/kill myself.”

I repeatedly pulled the conversation back to the abuse, and she just circled round to make it about her every single time. Seriously should could win an Olympic gold medal in narcissism. For example at one point she said “it’s all my fault it happened I should have known what he was doing”, I replied that I didn’t think I’d be believed so didn’t tell anyone and that isn’t her fault - and mentioned that maybe if it happened now, what with #metoo and Time’s Up etc I would probably have the bravery to speak out. She said “well yes it’s a bit like me as a teenager my mother was so nasty to me, these days kids can speak up say something” then started to talk about her mum and how awful she was Hmm. Then when I said I can’t believe she could go back to a paedophile, how can someone do that she said “I know, I often wonder how someone could kill themselves but I tried to” Shock. Every single sentence was rebutted with a “me me poor me” statement.

I finally pinned her down and asked “why did you go back to him, how can you do that to me?” and she was crying and saying “I just can’t explain, I’m not good with words” and other vague answers.

But in the end she revealed: it’s MY fault! When she was back in the UK, she didn’t feel she saw us much (we went round once a week) and she was disappointed because she asked numerous times if she could babysit DD and we always said no (I don’t let my kids be looked after by paedophile apologists thanks, thought that was obvious). Then she WOULD have come back to the UK had we looked after her dog, but the journey back was so hard on him she couldn’t face driving back so she HAD to stay. So if I had been a better daughter she wouldn’t be with him now, she’d still be in the UK.

I said actually I think we both know you were always going to go back, you’d done it before. She said when she found out the first time what he was doing she didn’t realise it was that bad, she thought he was just “being a bit letchy” with me. I said you should STILL leave a man if he’s being letchy with your daughter. She cried some more and said when she gone she’s going to have to call her therapist again as she can’t handle all this.

So my mum stays with my abuser because we didn’t look after her fucking dog.

She also said being with him means she doesn’t have to work but can buy what she wants - I said I can’t believe any pair of shoes of material lifestyle is worth being with a man like that and there are plenty on non-paedophiles who would work while she didn’t.

I’m broken, and hurt. Despite me saying I wanted an apology, she didn’t give me one. I told her my therapist said how strong i have been through this whole thing and that really seemed to piss her off, that I’d been paid a compliment. She just said “hmm ok”. I never ever went to the police because I knew it would destroy my mother to see her husband arrested and questioned. I just couldn’t do it to her. Now I’m thinking who the fuck am I even protecting by keeping it quiet? Two people who don’t give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves.

DH says he will drop the kids off at his mums and take me to the police station today to file a report and will hold my hand throughout. I have written down years ago a document of all the abuse I suffered (it took me ages to even acknowledge it was abuse and not him “just frightening” me which is what my mum calls it). I don’t know what I expected when I asked her for an explanation. But I feel even worse than ever.

OP posts:
BrainWormsWontWin · 28/01/2019 21:33

I have a mother like this, similar circumstances. I feel your pain and have similar decisions to make. PM me if you want to chat

pumpastrotter · 29/01/2019 14:37

I could've written most of your post, OP. I'm sorry you've gone through what you have whilst your mother and that creep swan about. I told my mother what happened and she laughed and said it was just messing about. I am NC with my mother and have no intention of ever changing that, she spent her life choosing despicable men over her children then excusing herself whenever challenged because 'her mother was no mother' (Gran was selfish but certainly nothing on her and every sibling has a different recalling of their childhood to her....). You cannot change these people, they don't want to change. Your mother has made her choice loud and clear. I hope the police take action and they both get what they deserve, do not fall for her guilt trips. If she wants to harm herself let her, she never minded you being harmed.

AwdBovril · 29/01/2019 14:53

You poor thing. Your mother sounds like a weak willed, selfish, narcissistic cow. At the very least, I'd go low contact, even if you can't fully cut her off. I have, in fact, gone LC with my own family, for far lesser reasons than you would have.

Stand strong with regards to protecting your DCs from her. She has proven time & again that she has almost zero boundaries, & will always take the easy way out.

Don't feel pressured to go to the police - by all means, go, but only if & when you feel ready. Bear in mind that after such a long period of time has elapsed, the chances of a conviction drop significantly, so if you want to do it, do it for you. Your DH sounds lovely & you sound really strong to have coped so well so far. Keep up with the counselling if you feel it's helping.

Lozzerbmc · 29/01/2019 23:00

OP how truly awful for you and devastating that your mother stood by and will not acknowledge what happened. Whatever you decide you must think of yourself and not her. You sound an amazing person, so strong and you are a zillion billion times better a mother to your DCs than she ever was to you. Your DH sounds wonderfully supportive too. Wishing you the very best

Xenadog · 29/01/2019 23:11

The woman who gave birth to you is an absolute piece of shit. You owe her nothing.

Whatever you decide to do, know you have made a success of your life and you didn’t deserve any of this awfulness. You sound amazingly strong and I’m so sorry you have had to go through this.

Gruzinkerbell1 · 30/01/2019 00:06

You are an absolute credit to your own strength OP. I'm in awe of you. You are so strong and brave. Wishing you nothing but happiness and good things.

cheeseislife8 · 30/01/2019 00:24

Your mother should be ashamed of the way she's treated you. Not only monumental narcissism and denial but actually suggesting that it's your fault she's back with him due to the dog.

Your strength does you credit OP, you are who you are in spite of them and deserve to be proud of that

Abcdefghii · 30/01/2019 00:33

I hope years from now when she's on her death bed the realisation of what they have done to you tortures her in her final moments.

What an utterly deplorable, self serving evil witch she really is.

You have a strength they'll never know and yours and your DCs lives will be far better without that paedophile and his sympathizer in it.

The fact she gave birth to you means nothing in these circumstances, she has forfeited the right to call herself your mother and deserves no place in your life or heart.

Whatebee you decide to do RE the police just know this. You are a strong, resilient and remarkable woman and above all you are the mother she could have only wished to be.

Livingoncake · 30/01/2019 07:41

She is no mother. She has done nothing to warrant that title.

I really hope you go to the police, and let both of those monsters get what’s coming to them.

Any time you start to feel guilty or sorry for her, remember this: She wanted to hand YOUR DAUGHTER over to her paedophile husband.

Don’t worry about what happens to her. She has never given a single shit about what happens to you. She deserves nothing from you except your eternal contempt.

Sending strength and good wishes. I really hope you get the closure you need. Xx

Renarde1975 · 30/01/2019 14:57

@Hells

Fuck me my love, you poor woman Flowers
That poor fucking step daughter....every day? Fuck.

Hangings too good for them.

Renarde1975 · 30/01/2019 15:03

OP How are you today? Flowers

picklemepopcorn · 30/01/2019 15:21

I'm so sorry. It's all so classic, but that's no comfort when it is your mother.

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