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This is shit, right? Actually I know it is!

212 replies

CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 27/12/2018 00:50

Hi.
I have been with my partner for almost 15 years, we are not married. We have 2 children together and I have 2 from a previous relationship, dd1 is 21, ds1 is 17, ds2 is 13 and dd2 is 8.

Dd1 is at uni, so only comes home for holidays and ds1 spends most of his time at his girlfriends, so is hardly home. Neither of them like to be around too long because of him, and that makes me sad.

My partner has always been loud and swears quite a bit, but I have made excuses for him, he had a rough upbringing etc, etc. But he is 39 and should know how to behave!
I don't like to go out with him because he will get wound up by someone or something and express it and quite frankly I feel so embarrassed by him.

He has never been violent but does shout and swear at me when we row and to my shame I have thrown back the sweary insults. He also takes the mick out of me, like when he says something I said, but in a winey voice. I have asked him to stop, he does for a while, but then does it again.

Things will be good for a few months, we will both do the housework, even though I will still do most of it, but he gets the hump if I don't lavish him with praise that he folded up some washing, or put a wash on. (Don't get me wrong I do say thank you regularly, but no one thanks me continuously for feeding them or ironing their clothes.) We will laugh together like we used to and I will think, oh maybe everything will be fine

I think the thing that upsets me the most is that he has to compare everything that someone has achieved or said to himself, e.g. ds2 will tell him that he got to the next level on a computer game, partner will then say something like "well I did it quicker". Ds then looks deflated, and I point that out, later, and tell dp that he is an arse and everything isn't about him. This has happened many many times over the years with all of the dcs.

Today when he woke up and came downstairs I asked him not have the TV too loud as I had a bit of a headache and he mumbled something about he wasn't doing Christmas next year and has been sulking all day upstairs.
He doesn't really like Christmas, so I feel I have to put a huge front on.
Dd1 went to a friend's house as he just makes the atmosphere horrible.

I'm the one who sorts out all the bills, (he is useless with money), do the school run, sorts out childcare and all appointments for the dcs, we both work.

Our youngest has a medical condition that she needs to take tablets for and has regular hospital appointments, yet I have done every single appointment, even when he was off work.

I've come to realise that I'm just sad most of the time and I think be is only here because I can go out without taking the dcs everywhere with me.
I'm happier when I'm at work and have other adults to talk to and I find I'm sharing my success' with them more than dp.

I know there are relationships that are in worst shape, so thank you if you have managed to read this far.

Or maybe it's me that is defective?

OP posts:
Newyearbollocks · 29/12/2018 11:40

I've just written a post similar and I'm now waiting for him to leave today. I won't put my kids through it any longer. Feel free to PM. Mine too had a bad upbringing. It's not an excuse to behave like this.

Newyearbollocks · 29/12/2018 11:43

Also like yours, he has no family that will take him and a couple of friends that no exactly what he is like so are reluctant to take him in. I have learnt this is now not my issue.

AgentJohnson · 29/12/2018 11:59

Man children can’t be man children without some woman being a substitute mother. The sad truth is you’ve prioritised and continue to prioritise being in a relationship with this man at your children’s expense.

This is who he is!

GreenTulips · 29/12/2018 12:48

My mother left my father for similar reasons when we were little

Best thing she did!

And I’m still grateful she made that tough decision all those years ago

Gfplux · 29/12/2018 12:49

The reason he has few friends is because he is an arse and others have done what you need to do

Happierwithouthim · 29/12/2018 13:10

Focus on the future and in no time at all you'll wonder why did I not make the break years ago.

Seeing my db and his wife and my friends interact in their marriages and relationships highlighted the flaws of mine to me.

CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 29/12/2018 13:27

Newyear I just read your thread, well done for just doing it!

I will be telling him to leave, I just need to have some things in place first.

happier that is my plan.

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PawneeParksDept · 29/12/2018 13:34

This is like reading my DM over 20 years ago.

Her only regret about divorcing is that she didn't go sooner so that the eldest, who had gone to uni, had had some of their childhood in peace

Sibling who had gone to uni basically lived with friends in our town one summer rather than live with our father

You have to think, when they are older and married with children do you think they'll want Christmas with you or choose any option but and act accordingly

CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 29/12/2018 13:38

Pawnee, I am planning on telling him to leave.
It will just take a bit of time

OP posts:
CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 30/12/2018 13:27

Walking with dinosaurs was really good yesterday.
P was mostly ok

OP posts:
Thetruthwillout80 · 31/12/2018 12:13

How are the kids?

CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 31/12/2018 13:49

@Thetruthwillout80, the kids are fine, they don't know yet, even p doesn't know.
I just need some things in place first

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Thetruthwillout80 · 31/12/2018 20:18

OP, I hope it all goes well. I know it can't be easy. Are you frightened of being alone?

CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 31/12/2018 20:29

Truth, thank you. No I'm not frightened of being alone.
I know it will be an adjustment, not being able to just say "oh I'm popping out for a bit" and having that freedom, but I can't carry on like this.

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Thetruthwillout80 · 01/01/2019 01:26

It will work out for the best, that I'm sure of Smile

Happierwithouthim · 06/01/2019 07:18

How are things now curvy in limbo?

CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 06/01/2019 13:36

Hi happier, yes in limbo, have sorted a few more things though, just playing along really, which is hard.
But back to work and school tomorrow so won't have to see him the whole time, will be glad of the normal routine!

The thing is, if a row starts I won't be able to hold my tounge.
I keep running things in my head, which isn't good because then I doubt myself and start thinking how much the 2 younger DCs will hate me etc, etc...

But then I realise that it is the best thing to do and I will see it through.

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dullclothesbrightmind · 06/01/2019 13:45

Maybe you should think about how you both communicate and if it's working for you

No, No, No, No NO. This is the sort of absolute shit advice floating around that makes women stay in awful relationships in which they are unhappy, because they believe if only they can find the right words, their partner will finally understand and everything will get better.
Its not about how OP communicates. Its about the fact that he isn't really interested in anything she says or feels.

Happierwithouthim · 07/01/2019 06:22

It's hard but you've got to keep things together until you've everything ready.

Is this relationship a good example to your younger two? That was one of my primary reasons for ending my marriage.

CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 07/01/2019 06:30

Yes I know, I will, hopefully.

No it's not a great example really. They both say things like "well let's not upset dad" and from the older one "dad don't get angry, but this happened". So, at times they both manage their behaviour, so they don't upset him, which isnt really healthy.

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Happierwithouthim · 07/01/2019 09:25

Had exactly that conversation with dm yesterday when she was reflecting on my decision and she had no idea how poor his behaviour was on such a regular basis.

I could see dd changing stuff to avoid angering her father, and ds imitating him and knew it had to stop, plus he didn't care if he 'told me off' in front of them or pushed me or shouted at me so it wasn't a situation that could continue.

Are you happy to have made the decision to leave him or hesitant?

What age are your older dc, could you confide in them or a friend or sister?

I confided a lot in a work colleague prior to making my decision but I never discussed my decision once I made it with anyone, I started a thread on here and vented and discussed my feelings there instead.

CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 08/01/2019 22:03

Hi happier, sorry didn't reply sooner. First day back at work yesterday and had a very busy day and lots of new information, came home and went to bed early has had a migraine coming on.

I'm think I'm mostly happy with the decision to leave and as shallow as this sounds I don't want to be "the one who told daddy to go away".
But I will cross that bridge when it comes to it.
I don't really want to tell my elder DCs, DD1 is 21 and away at uni, so would worry a lot, plus she is on antidepressants, so I will not add any more stress to her plate.
DS1 is 17, and well he would probably go all protective over me, plus he is working and is an apprentice so I want him to concentrate on him.

I have told my best friend irl and she asks how I'm doing regularly and has my back and I can just turn up, plus she lives very close.

I am thinking of telling one of my close work colleagues, and I think she will understand.
Plus at work we have family support workers and one of them is trained in DV, but I don't know if I have the courage to tell her everything.

Just tonight DS2, 13, was talking and said he wishes that his dad didn't get angry, especially over small things, e.g. if the remote is on the other chair or if he can't find something and blames others (when he (his dad) was the one who put it somewhere in the first place), and swears. DS2 then said that he gets angry and upset with his dad and swears at him in his head.

This then confirms, to me, even more that I need to do this.

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Happierwithouthim · 09/01/2019 08:52

curvy you're right not to tell your dd so she's got enough on her plate, maybe in time ds1 would be a good support for you though? You know your children best.

It's funny things that your dc will say over the next few months will confirm your decision being correct over and over again.

It's hard to believe now that a year ago I hadn't made my decision at all and that in two months time it'll be a year since I told H.

Do you own or are you renting or mortgaged?

CurvyInAllTheWrongPlaces · 09/01/2019 17:23

It's rented and in my name

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Adora10 · 09/01/2019 18:22

He reverts to type because he’s incapable as he’s basically a horrible angry person.

Your kids will grow into angry and entitled adults if you continue in this environment.

Wishing you strength to cut the habit, you’ve a much better life ahead without him and the satisfaction of helping your kids