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DH, no sex and being horrible

179 replies

WhatToDoNowPlease · 06/12/2018 22:20

I've been debating posting for a while, I have AS so I'm not sure what is usual in a relationship.

Background first as it's relevant, a bit long though so I'm sorry. I will try and condense it.

I met DH at 15, started dating at 16 and we married when I was 29. Since getting married we now have two little boys, aged 2 and 6 months.

Before DS2 was conceived, we were working on our relationship as around 2006 DH's sex drive plummeted and it has been a huge issue. We would talk about it and he always had a reason (tired from driving to uni to see me on weekend, stressed with first job, money worries, etc).

Whenever we talk it ends with him promising to work on things but nothing ever changes. We have been to counselling which I found humiliating (when asked what I found attractive about him I answered. When he was asked he just sat in silence and stared ahead until she dropped the subject) and pointless. Most sex felt like duty sex and not fun at all. We did try out seeing another couple around that time, wasn't for me and DH was put off by having to look at another man, however he was fine with the female half of the couple. She would occasionally come over and he was all for doing stuff when she was there which I found incredibly hurtful. Anyway, we stopped that and are still friends with the couple.

DH broached the idea of getting married, he said that things would be fixed by the time we got married. They were not, he said we would work on things during the honeymoon, Nope. Then said by Christmas. Nope. During this time decided to start trying for DS1 in the January, I guess mistakenly thinking lots of sex would fix things. However we had sex twice and I had a positive pregnancy test less than 2 weeks later. Barely had sex during pregnancy until about 8 months when it was extremely difficult as we had no experience of adapting around the bump so we gave up.

After DS1 was born we slept together 6 weeks pp and then not for a long time. When DS1 was 10 months old I decided enough was enough and threw all of my effort into fixing things. We had a mishap, I took the morning after pill within 24 hours but DS2 was already conceived. DH furious that I was pregnant (I was not happy either, I was still on maternity leave and I was scared) and told me I should terminate the pregnancy. I did not do that as I already felt protective over baby.

I had hyperemesis, no sympathy even when I was hospitalised. He had to be convinced to call 111 and to take me to an appointment as I was too weak. He ignored my vomiting and would keep a conversation going with me while I was throwing up and get cross when I asked him to repeat himself as I couldn't hear him. He was ill towards the end of the pregnancy and tried to stay in bed after throwing up once and was angry when I said no as I was heavily pregnant and needed help with the newly walking toddler and still vomiting multiple times a day.

During pregnancy I found he had been chatting to a friend who was a prostitute and checking on her via FB messenger after her clients had left. He had apparently been friends with her for 5 years and just decided to hide the friendship from me. I was very upset, especially when I saw the conversations where she told him to leave me and that I should have aborted DS2.

During pregnancy DH was increasingly horrible to me. No sex since DS2 was conceived at all. Apparently I don't lose my sex drive even after having babies so it isn't that I've refused. During labour I was woken in the night by mild contractions and asked him to put the TENS on my back and he was cross, told me I wasn't in labour and to shut up as he was tired. Eventually he was convinced into helping me. During the labour I was distracting myself (homebirth, DS1 at nursery) and was browsing on the computer during contractions. He told me to fucking shut up during a contraction which was upsetting. I took myself off into the bathroom and stayed in there until DS2 was about to be born and called him in as I hadn't called the midwife back. He didn't believe me and tried to get me to stand up and go to the pool, swore when I didn't move out of the way quickly enough to let him in and repeatedly told me I was not giving birth until he could see DS2's head. He delivered DS2, called maternity unit and they said to call ambulance to be on the safe side. He did and the ambulance man asked him questions, he didn't know the answer as he had just wandered off and left me and DS2 on the bathroom floor. We were fine.

Since DS2 he has been increasingly horrible. He's called me fat, a bitch, lazy, stupid, selfish, refused to have much to do with DS2 but kept taking DS1 out away from me and wouldn't hold DS2 so I could spend time with DS1.

He went out to lunch with a new friend of mine and didn't tell me. When I had evidence he just denied it, then got angry with me for 'snooping'. Her car has been outside the soft play place he went with DS1 so he knows this would have badly upset me. He also took her to A&E to help her for an entire day, when he has never done that for me without complaining about the inconvenience to him. He was surprised that I didn't fancy him taking DS1 out to a theme park with her for a day without me.

Given the background above, would you think that the sex situation could ever be salvaged or have all the other issues completely eclipsed that issue and mean there's no coming back from this? I just think that if the sex situation was resolved then other issues would become minor.

Yes, I know I shouldn't have married him, I did because I loved him and wanted to be with him and believed him.

OP posts:
Sally2791 · 07/12/2018 07:54

This is appalling reading. Please get counselling for yourself, you cannot seriously believe that if this vile man has sex with you,all will be well! If he didn't want another child that much he should have left. He has seemingly taken pleasure in neglecting you and endangering your life .Please seek help from womens aid /friends in RL. Feel so sorry for you, but you you need to leave.

WhoWants2Know · 07/12/2018 07:54

OP, I'm sad to say it, but it's damaging to your kids to see their father treat their mother this way.

Think about what you will say when your youngest gets older and asks about the day he was born. Which is worse, the fact that you will have to describe horrific abuse or the idea of having to lie to him about his origins?

Singlenotsingle · 07/12/2018 07:57

You got together far too young and neither of you had a chance to sow your wild oats. Now he's bored and stuck with a woman he doesn't want and a baby he doesn't want. He doesn't love you and you'd be much better off on your own.

Are you prepared to carry on like this for another 40 or 50 years OP? If the answer is no, do something about it now, rather than waiting and waiting. The older the DC are, the more difficult it will be.

Djnoun · 07/12/2018 07:59

Having AS can make you want to cling on because you are frightened of change. It can also make you want to solve the mystery of other people's irregular behaviour. But you'll have more peace of mind if you stop trying to figure him out. Yoga and meditation can help with that. And I know splitting up with him would be a frightening change, but once you are used to it, you'll feel much happier.

fadehead · 07/12/2018 08:06

I’ve been on MN for years and this is one of the worst things I’ve ever read on here. Please seek some counselling for yourself and find the strength to leave. You can’t keep living like this! I don’t know him but I actually hate him. The way he treated you in labour...oh my Sad

WhatToDoNowPlease · 07/12/2018 08:19

Why does he not want to separate if he doesn't like me? I've suggested it before we were even married and got the same response so it can't just be because of the children.

OP posts:
tempname111 · 07/12/2018 08:26

Because he still wants you around to do the lions share of parenting. And to make you feel like shit.

Singlenotsingle · 07/12/2018 08:27

Because it's easier not to, OP. It would be inconvenient and hard work to move out and find somewhere else to live. He'd face awkward questions from family and friends and it could be embarrassing. He'd have to look after himself and do his own housework. That's why!

category12 · 07/12/2018 08:30

Maybe he's afraid of being alone. There are significant advantages to being in a relationship, especially as a man.

Maybe he's used to the status quo and not unhappy enough to end it despite everything. lnertia is hard to break. A lot of people stay in objectively bad relationships until there's a catalyst like an affair or something 'big' to make them make the break.

He can bully you and speak to you like dirt and take out his anger on you: maybe he's quite happy doing that.

You're the one who is miserable and being treated badly.

MaryPoppinsUmberellaHandle · 07/12/2018 08:41

Another autistic woman here. I can only agree with everything @MattBerrysHair has said.

I'm also horrified how you were treated during your labour.

Please please please, get some advice and support for yourself.

Aaaahfuck · 07/12/2018 08:41

This was actually quite upsetting to read I can't imagine what it's like to go through.
As many pp's have said I really don't think sex is the issue here. He's treated you horribly possibly even abusively.

Regardless of the reasons, whether it's an unplanned pregnancy or lack of sex that's not ok. Even if things were magically ok again and he started treating you well how would you forgive him for every thing and aactually want to have sex with him? I know separation is hard but living in this way will grind you down.

Dirtybadger · 07/12/2018 09:02

He wants you around because it's convenient. He presumably likes access to DC1, which will be more limited if you split. Like you he will have less money if you split. He will also have more housework to do and have to find somewhere new, plus the actual divorce. He wants to stay for some of the same reasons as you. It doesn't sound like caring about you or loving you are part of the reasons though. Perhaps when faced with splitting he does realise he cares, just not enough to remember a few days later....Sad

Whocansay · 07/12/2018 09:06

He refused to get you medical help when you needed it. That decision could have been disastrous for you and your baby. You were very lucky. He is an abusive cunt.

He doesn't want to split because he likes the status quo. You let him have sex with other women, but he won't have sex with you. I think he enjoys torturing you. He sounds like a right sadistic bastard, from what you've said. I would get the hell away from him.

EllaDownTheLane · 07/12/2018 09:23

This post is the saddest thing I’ve ever read here. OP you are thirty three with young children. Life is beautiful and far too short, you could be so much happier. Relationships and marriages are about friendship and respect, he clearly doesn’t respect you and your relationship sounds so sad and toxic. You and your children are worth so much more.

BlueJava · 07/12/2018 09:29

What you describe is not a normal relationship. I'm sorry OP but it's been going on for a long time and you've tried several things. I don't see it getting better.

MattBerrysHair · 07/12/2018 09:34

Why does he not want to separate if he doesn't like me? I've suggested it before we were even married and got the same response so it can't just be because of the children.

His motivations and desires are irrelevant. The only relevant thing to base your decisions on is his behaviour, which is dangerously abusive. Please stop trying to understand him and what he wants as it is getting in the way of you making decisions and acting on them.

WhatToDoNowPlease · 07/12/2018 09:38

He did get me medical help, but just wandered off to another room as he likes privacy for phone calls. He did call the maternity unit when he realised ds2 was being born but we were in a queue and ds2 had been born by the time they answered. That was when he left the room. He then called an ambulance as directed but was in another room when they were asking him about us.

I agree it was dangerous as I could have started bleeding or passed out. I was busy looking at ds2 and wrapping him in a towel so I wasn't worried about myself at the time.

To pp, yes I do still want to sleep with him. I still fancy him and he used to make me feel so safe and happy and cared for. I've not looked at anyone else.

I don't think I would want to live with anyone else while the children are small. My mum made horrendous choices that have been rather damaging.

Is it not worth even one last chance?

OP posts:
Wordthe · 07/12/2018 09:42

This man is poisonous he enjoys punishing you and the children things will never get any better he will always be trying to score a hit on you
you must leave you must get out of this situation
you can make a plan and do it carefully and minimise the damage to you and your children but you are putting you and them in harms way if you stay with this horrible man

Kristingle · 07/12/2018 09:43

All the chances in the world will not make him into a kind or decent person.

acornfed · 07/12/2018 09:44

You sound like you are sometimes trying to justify his behaviour.
This is part of how you've been affected by this abusive relationship.
You need to leave him

Wordthe · 07/12/2018 09:45

I would suggest watching some of these videos, you will recognise the behaviour of your husband, HG Tudor may be a bit over the top but he does help you to understand the Minds of people with narcissistic abusive traits
www.youtube.com/channel/UCge1h5fEmC4sU1fN6TgevIA/featured?disable_polymer=1

Branleuse · 07/12/2018 09:46

i think youve given him loads of chances.
If someone is treating you like this, they KNOW what theyre doing. You dont have to EXPLAIN to somebody not to abuse or neglect their partner. If you love a person, you cant help but act like you love them. There is not going to be something you can think of, thats going to make him change in any significant way.
You need to decide if this is how you want your life to be. Whether the good outweighs the bad.
Just remember, you dont get another shot in life. Dont waste it on some deadbeat dickhead who treats you like shit

WildFlower2018 · 07/12/2018 09:47

OP,

Would you like your sons to treat their wives as you've been treated?

MattBerrysHair · 07/12/2018 09:47

Op, why aren't you outraged at his treatment of you? If you had a friend or sibling in this situation what would you be telling them?

notapizzaeater · 07/12/2018 09:47

You've given him chances and opportunities to change. He's being a abusive to you. If someone was treating your daughter like this what would you be telling her