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Why do some men think it is acceptable to treat a 28 week pregnant lady the way he has? (he's the father)

42 replies

SmithBic90 · 28/11/2018 15:21

I'm really emotional at the moment, just looking for a place to rant a little, and hopefully find some support and make sense of it all. I don't believe all men are the same, I know from seeing other people my age having children that most men are fabulous when their partner gets pregnant planned or not.

Basically, I am now 28 weeks pregnant. And the father of my child walked out on me when I was just over 3 months pregnant. He claimed it was because I'm a liar, and he's not the real dad. I even agreed to a paternity test when the baby was born for his peace of mind as he put it, regardless of my absolute certainty of him being the dad.
Since then, it has been nothing but an emotional and mental roller-coaster. So in honestly I think I'm just looking for someone to talk to, someone who will talk me down from my seriously high emotional state, and just be a friend in general.

After the whole drama of him deciding he's not the father, he walked out. But since then, he's been trying to be more involved, then he decides he doesn't want to be, then he does, etc etc. When he first walked out, he told me he wanted nothing to do with us until the baby was born (due in Feb!) and then he'd only step up if the paternity test came back as the baby is his. Duiing this time, he went out of his way to tell everyone he could (people he did and didn't know) especially other girls (most of whom are a lot younger than he is) about the situation, but he twisted things to make himself out to be a completely innocent victim, and went on about how messed up he was not knowing if hewas going to be a dad or not. It got to the point where I was receiving messages of how much of a disgusting person I am and how could anyone put someone they claim to love through stuff like that. His own mother said she wanted to stab me, I even had people telling me they hoped I lost the baby. I'm not sure if he was aware of that happening, but it was awful. He missed the next few scans, including the 20 week scan when I found out what we were having. I couldn't even get hold of him to see if he was interested in knowing, he'd blocked me, and got his friends to find out for him. A few weeks later, I had a message from him asking how me and the baby were, I asked why he suddenly seemed interested, he told me it was because he saw his aunt who had gone through all the dates, spoke to the person he claimed was the actual father of my child, and they all came to the same conclusion, the dates I gave were right and he is, in fact, the dad. Not anyone else like he claimed. He got more involved for a while. He went as far as saying things like he still loves me, he wants us to consider being a family in Feb when the baby is born, that he wants us to consider him moving into my flat with us, so we can be together, raise the baby together, save money etc. I stupidly believed everything. I stupidly believed this was it, and he had realised his mistakes, realised it wasn't all just about him, and we could try to work something out. I was very stupid indeed, because not 2 weeks later, he tells me it's getting too serious and we need to stop seeing each other. And then he stopped talking to me. In between that and now, he's tried to tell me he loves me again, he's wanted me to go over to his (he literally lives down the road from me) but he's been messaging 1 girl who he had a thing with previously, after she said she hopes for his sake the baby isnt his, and he's agreed, and said me too. He tells me he's not fussed either way, and most recently he's been sending messages to another new girl he's never met before, who lives a bit away from us, flirting with her, getting to know her. From what I've gathered, she's a lot younger then the both of us, yet again and has a 6 month old girl herself. He's been sending her money to support her when she's run out of gas, he's been more supportive of a girl he's never met before, then of the woman who is carrying his own child, and it hurts more then I can even imagine. When he comes back wanting to be more involved and telling me he loves me, I get this stupid hope that he's come to terms with things, and we can work it out and then I still find out he's slagging me off behind my back, he's flirting with other girls, he's saying he's really messed up, using it as an opener to chat these girls up and get their sympathy. He hasn't once stepped back and thought about his unborn child or what his actions and words do to me. I've been in touch with the Midwifery Mental health team, but honestly, I just want a friend. I have some fabulous ones, but I feel I can't speak to them about how I really feel, because they get angry with me, tell me to suck it up and deal, and to just sack him off completely and everything else. I know I should, but it's so hard to do. It's getting too hard to pretend it doesn't hurt, or get to me and I'm honestly not sure I can cope anymore.

Anyone been in a similar situation? How did you get through it? Regardless of being pregnant or not? How did you get someone out from under your skin? How did you muster up the courage to eventually turn around and say no to someone you love? And say enough is enough? I don't know how to process it all, and deal with it. I try to focus all my attention on the baby, but sometimes, it all gets too much and just completely explodes!
Super sorry for the ridiculously long post too! 😢🥺😳😖

OP posts:
Jux · 29/11/2018 14:59

Congratulations on your pregnancy, and good luck.

Not sure how these things work, but if you can avoid putting his name on the birth certificate but still able to claim CM that would be good.

SmithBic90 · 01/12/2018 10:01

Hi everyone!

Again, thank you so so so much for all your support!
I'm here to give you an update. I have since cut all contact with father, after we had a huge blow out and he said some incredibly horrible things to me. Who'd have though an almost 30 year old guy could be so cruel?
I have made it clear to him that I am taking his behaviour as his decision to not be involved at all and due to that, he will no longer be informed about any hospital or midwife appointments or when I go into labour and the baby is here. If he wants to know, he has people he knows he can ask himself. I also mentioned to him that the way he treats me could be classed as a type of psychological abuse, and he really did not like that!
I now truly believe that come Feb, he'll be too busy ruining another girls life to care that he has a son, but im learning to accept that it's his decision and it's out of my control, the best thing I can do is focus on the baby by then.

Until he's here, I plan on focusing on making sure I don't waste the last 12 weeks I have being pregnant wollowing in guilt and sadness, and thanks you to unbelievably lovely and supportive people, I'm also learning that I can do it, and I'm strong enough to!

I honestly cannot thank you all enough!

OP posts:
Jux · 01/12/2018 13:18

Well done 👏👏👏👏

If you find yourself weakening at any time you can reread this thread and remind yourself of the reality. Anyone who behaves as he has towards their pg spouse is a callous seriously nasty person, and they'll not change, only put on a mask long enough to reel you back in, so don't be fooled if he tries it. Ignore and block his flying monkeys too.

You have family and good friends. You are strong and resourceful. You will manage this, through good and bad times, but all will be better for the lack of this jerk.

You are a Star

BlancheM · 01/12/2018 16:44

I've just seen your OP and was raging by the time I was half way through it, then saw your update. All I can say is well done and I hope for your sake and DS' you stick with it.
I have similar experience, when I look back on that pregnancy I feel sad that the whole time was blighted by stress and uncertainly and feel lucky that DD came out of it unharmed. The father was meeting other women and promising them they would be the stepmother to my child and raising her together. I honestly don't think the experience comes close to what you've been through with that man though. Trying to understand him will send you round the twist. There's no rationalising his motives. Some people are just utter cunts.
Again, please do yourselves a favour and completely cut him off so he can't access you for his twisted fun anymore Thanks

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 03/12/2018 10:40

Well done @SmithBic90 - welcome to the rest of your life!!! You and baby will be fabulous. Flowers

Conventicle · 03/12/2018 11:23

I hand on heart love the guy to pieces, truly thought that we'd be able to get through it, we'd be stronger and closer than ever, even through the difficulties of having our first baby

This is the single most alarming bit of any of your posts, OP. Well done on cutting contact, but ask yourself why you put up with such appalling treatment for so long, in the face of every possible demonstration of his absolute appallingness, and have much firmer boundaries in place before you embark on any future relationships. And, if you weaken, talk to your friends, who are angry on your behalf -- they are a good thing.

Bluerussian · 03/12/2018 11:27

He is vile and immature. He's panicking about the impending responsibility.

Well done you for cutting off contact. I hope when your lovely baby arrives, she or he is the spitting image of him! Serves him right. He's the loser here, in time he will realise that.

Flowers
Jux · 04/12/2018 09:56

Conventicle makes a good point about your boundaries, and why you got into a relationship with someone who treats you like that. I beleive the Freedom Programme would help you there very much. Look it up and see if there's one running near you, it'll definitely be worth doing.

inlectorecumbit · 04/12/2018 10:15

Please please when the baby is born put in a claim to the CMS.
No way is this twat going to give any money for his son's upkeep until he is forced to do so.
Flowers

Seaweed42 · 04/12/2018 10:48

He has been playing you like a puppet. Only because he's a user and a manipulator and you are a nice person doing your best. You were 100% right when you said it was psychological abuse.
Also notice the chunk of this relationship that has been happening in your head.
You were texting him dates of appointments etc even though he walked out on you, showed no interest and was abusive towards you.
Maybe that was you creating your part of this story and filling in the horrible gaps he left you with.
You literally were letting him off the hook, while you blame yourself, and then created a 'nicer' him in your mind to wallpaper over his bad behaviour.
This allowed you to excuse him and paint a rosy picture of him while in reality, his actual behaviour in real life is not respectful to another human being, esp not to an ex partner expecting his child.
Some part of you might find it hard to let go of this ideal perfect picture in your head, especially if he uses emotional means to try to get power over you again by using phrases in texts etc that feed into this picture. That's why blocking contact is important.
This is why you found yourself rushing to make excuses for him when friends of yours rightly tell you he's a shit. Your mind wants to make it all lovely - so you find yourself disagreeing with your friends over him, avoiding friends in case they say bad things about him or hiding the truth from them. But it's yourself you were hiding the truth from.
Create a new story of your future life that is you and your lovely baby, being supported by family and friends that love you.
The father has a very minor role/or no role at all and that is dictated by you. Best of luck hope it all goes lovely and that you have people in your life to support you.

PlinkPlink · 04/12/2018 11:49

How is it all going OP? You staying strong? Smile

SmithBic90 · 05/12/2018 17:06

Update!

Thank you all for your sontinued support! You are amazing people, and it blows me away so much.

I've still not had much contact from him, bar when he was drunk and emailed me. Thankfully I found the will power in what you lovely people, as well as my family and friends have said and I deleted it, without even reading it. He's not since bothered to try to get in contact again since.
I won't lie, it's hard, but I'm determined to stay strong and prove to myself that I can be a strong woman and mother for my boy when he's here! He's the most important thing and his wellbeing is far more important, and if that means the fatherstays out of our lives as much as we can help it, then so be it. He doesn't been a dad who comes and goes when it suits him.

Again, thank you all so much. You are fabulous, wonderful people! I cannot thank you all enough for your words and support!

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 05/12/2018 17:29

Great update @SmithBic90, we're proud of you.

PlinkPlink · 05/12/2018 19:11

Yes this is wonderful news!! Well done OP!!! Stay strong for your little one!

6demandingchildren · 05/12/2018 19:25

He would be a terrible role model for your son.
Think about how much you love your baby now and when he is born that love multiples by thousands, he is the only man you need.
Ex had many chances at being a father and his mum had a chance of being a grandmother but they fucked up, they can only blame themselves as they will be missing out on something amazing.

Jux · 05/12/2018 21:36

Well done again!!! You are doing really, really well.

letsdolunch321 · 05/12/2018 21:49

Let him crack on with his low life friends. He will still be the same idiot when he is 40

You have family and friends who you can rely on. Concentrate on keeping well and stress free for yourself and your baby boy.

Good luck 💐

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