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Sexless relationship

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thedaybeforetomorrow · 08/11/2018 13:51

This is probably a familiar story, but here goes. So I'm in my mid-forties I've been with my partner for 12 years now, and we have 2 kids (aged 5 and 7), but we're not married. I look after myself and am pretty fit, and take care of my appearance (just in case you were thinking I'd let it all go!). I'm also a supportive partner (I believe) - I do all the cooking, lots of housework, ironing, school runs and lots of activities and homework with the kids etc. and run a successfull business which supports our family in comfort (not being a martyr, just saying I pull my weight). I love my partner dearly and she's a fantastic person and a fab mother to our kids, BUT she has almost no interest in sex. She did when we first met, and we had a happy, if not wildly exciting sex life until kids arrived. However, these days we probably have sex no more than 3-4 times a year, and even then it's brief and unadventurous. I on the other hand have healthy high sex drive, and would like to have sex 2-3 times a week at least, and for it to be more spontaneous and passionate (although I realise spontaneity is hard with kids around). We've talked about it, and she acknowledges the issue, but doesn't seem to think it's a big deal and is not interested in us seeing a therapist, or trying to re-invigorate our sex life. It's just not a priority for her, and I think she's forgotten what it feels like to have sexual desires. For me though it really is a big problem. I've tried to to forget about it (although that's practically impossible), and the lack of intimacy is really getting to me. We've become housemates almost. I don't want to have an affair, and I especially don't want emotional entanglement with another person. The idea that I might break up our otherwise happy family is too scary for words - I adore my wife and kids. So what do I do? Even if she does agree to more regular sex (which is not likely) it would be perfunctory and I would feel like I'm forcing her, which would be awful and a complete turn-off. So this is where it gets controversial... I work away from home (overseas) periodically, and have considered paying for sex (but haven't done it). Would this be morally awful? There would be no emotional entanglement, and provided I was with an older lady who was working voluntarily in "the industry", would this be such a betrayal? What is my alternative - leave the person I love and break up the family, and ruin the best thing in my life? Suppress my urges and lead an unhappy and unfulfilled life? I'm at a loss to know what to do.

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ABeanCalledHopeInAMadTin · 08/11/2018 18:44

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Xmaspost · 08/11/2018 18:59

As you say OP, it's a familiar topic. Your situation is not that uncommon. You can try resolve things (and in all probably waste a lot of time....that was my experience many many years ago), but based on what you've written prepare to move on. Chances are you'll be a lot happier ultimately, and perhaps your wife too. It's tough for kids, but they are very resilient.

fernandoanddenise · 08/11/2018 19:08

Hmmm I have been thinking about this and it resonates with my own marriage. I heard something that helped: (female) sexual desire is basically the opposite of duty and domesticity - something you get a lot of in a marriage with small children. To access desire and sexuality you have to be quite selfish (in a good way!). You have to access a part of yourself that is truly you. It can’t be a duty: feeling that you’re doing it for someone else, that it’s on the ‘must do’ list and is a another donestic chore ‘for the family’ is a complete passion killer. I wonder if your wife masterbates? I bet she does. It would help if you could somehow tap into her sexuality with any ANY thought for your own sexual wants - make it about her using you for pleasure. Also any small resentments chalk up and block desire. You say you help at home etc but I wonder whether there is some imbalance that your wife feels? Is she supported emotionally? Is she loved? Listened to and free to express herself? I know it must be hard but I think to overcome this it can’t be about you. It has to be about her reclaiming we sexual space. Moving away from the mummy years and into a new realm.

bubbles108 · 08/11/2018 19:08

I probably haven't put it as bluntly as that to be honest. Possibly because I might not like the answer...

Which do you want more - to stay with her as a family with little sex? Or get more sex, but elsewhere?

fernandoanddenise · 08/11/2018 19:09

Apologies for the spelling - spell check wanted Master Bates rather than masturbates Grin

crunchymommy · 08/11/2018 19:20

Havent read all previous replys but I was the wife in this too. Were still young. 20s but with 3 kids 9 and under and married. Ive struggled with a yet undiagnosed chronic illness for a year and my youngest just wears me out. I just have no thoughts of sex or energy or desire. I do really want to change this though because I love ny husband dearly and I know he has a high sex drive. My point to this post was to say maybe she does want things to change but just can't find the motivation or energy within herself to make it happen.

pudding21 · 08/11/2018 19:20

You know, having gone through a painful split and see some friends with happy marriages, and many that have split, the most important thing in a successful relationship is your ability to talk.

Talk openly and honestly, if you can’t do that or she won’t do that it’s time to reasses. Being able to communicate, feeling the ability to be able to be honest is my ultimate relationship goal. Talk to her and if she is reluctant, or won’t you’ve got your answer in my opinion. There might be a solution, you might be able to reconnect or not. You need to think what you’d do if it’s the latter. You’ve both lives to live, and they shouldn’t be unfulfilled.

bionicnemonic · 08/11/2018 19:24

I’ve not read the full thread but your comment about her feeling she has put in weight may have a bearing...could you get fit together...exercise and muscle building will help her testosterone levels too...or look into adaptogens (herbal supplements) that may boost her testosterone too, (or a private hormone doctor) but be careful. It’s important that she wants this too, not that she feels ‘broken’ and that you’re trying to fix her

Butterfly44 · 08/11/2018 19:31

This is all too common OP. Absolutely understand you love your wife and family. It's what many in this position feel also, they have built a family life and do t want to lose it. Anything else is scary!
So rather than communicate how they feel they may have affairs, or go down the route you suggested...neither which is great because it's not a long term solution.
After many years you take your partner for granted, you don't believe they would ever leave so you feel comfortable saying no sex for example, thinking it's not important as other aspects in a relationship.
And this is where it goes wrong. There is an elephant in the room that doesn't get talked about. You have to communicate...you have to let her know how serious this is...that you can't live a sexless life for the rest of your days. And yes, if she's not willing to attend counselling with you, then where is she showing her care about how you feel? You would do the same for her because the marriage is that important. You will end up resenting her with all the put downs about the subject as soon as you try to broach it.
But it's more than just sex here...you mention hugging, cuddles and affection - this is all part of intimacy and showing love. It's soul destroying not to have it, to not feel wanted.
Sit down and have that honest conversation. Ask her to tell you honestly what the reasons are...even if it's not nice to hear. One of my avoids sex as she doesn't fancy her husband but still loves him dearly. They muddle along. But your kids will get older and need you less. Where will that leave you.

Penny1976 · 08/11/2018 21:31

@thedaybeforetomorrow sorry just able to come back to the thread.

Honestly I'm bored of sex. I know exactly how it's going to go. We've been together 30 years and I cba anymore. It's like going to a restaurant you've been to so many times you know what the meal will taste like before you eat it.

Nothing really to do with my partner. Although certain things he does do turn me off. He has never been loving or held my hand so I know if he comes over being affectionate he's only after one thing.

Lozzerbmc · 08/11/2018 22:42

Think you need to understand why she is not interested in sex or any physical contact. Could her sexuality really be the issue? It is difficult when you’re a mum if u are working, looking after child, doing all of chores at home and sometimes all you want to do is fall into bed at night and sleep (if u can!) Could she be pre-menopausal? I’m 49 and just got over menopause now and had no interest in sex though it is returning. And absolutely agree with the poster that desire for women starts in the brain. Women liked to be wooed! Sadly my partner is thinking of leaving as our sex life diminished so much and we’re struggling to revive it.

Believeitornot · 08/11/2018 22:46

My husband would probably write the same OP.

However my sex Drive hasn’t diminished. He just doesn’t quite listen to me, thinks about pleasuring me for his pleasure rather than mine. I’m bored of sex with him.

Not sure what to do!

LadyMofMtsensk · 08/11/2018 23:05

Find a woman in the same situation as you.

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