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Complicated and strange situation! Please help!

57 replies

Anon1996 · 07/11/2018 00:32

Ok, going to try to keep it short. Had a bf when I was 19-21. Thought he was the “one” which was stupid because he turned out to be a controller and emotionally abusive. Following him met the father of my kids. Split with Dad after 3 years we are on good terms.
Over this time period I had been chatting with a very close friend of the abusive bf. We would talk for a while, not speak and catch up. I had met him in person a few times and we got on well. Then, in 2015 we started to talk more often- we lived far away from each other. We would text daily, sometimes all day and night. One day he confessed he fancied me when I was with abuser. This made me think .. oh! Ok.. and I started to see him in a different way. Then finally he confessed on NYE he wanted to come and see me. It was all a bit weird for me because it was over text, I tried to convince myself I was being stupid. Then, all of a sudden he pulls back. He says it’s “taboo” to date a friends ex. We should be “just friends”. I was hurt but understood where he was coming from. Then we didn’t talk for a while, got on with life. A few weeks go by and he pops up in my inbox, calling me his “friend”. Talks to me about dates with other women etc. I still have my weird feelings but push it down. Then I move closer to him (we are from the same area) to go to uni. Me and the kids move down, and me and the guy arrange to meet. He cancels on me. I tell him “There is no point being friends with someone you don’t see -fuck off.” He says sorry, I ignore him and then he asks to meet up and promises not to cancel. So we meet. We get on just as well in person as we do over text and I 100% fancy him. I felt so happy going home after meeting him, like literally skipping. I then go on holiday for my birthday at the same time he goes away with a mate. He texts me saying he likes me and wants to date me but “doesn’t know what to do about it.” I say we should go out, he agrees and we are going to meet when we both get back. Day of the date I don’t hear from him- I get an uneasy feeling he’s going to cancel or not message I don’t know why. I then send “are we still on for today?” And he doesn’t say anything. I snap. Enough bullshit. I write out a message like “sick of your crap and tired of excuses, get a grip”(a longer version) and block his number. I then just move on and date others. I get with a guy I really like but screw it up one night by getting drunk and acting like a mess. Guess who’s number I unblock? The guy. He then says to “stop dating the guy and start dating him” and I say no. The next day I get a message, “I’ve decided I want to be only your friend nothing more.” We talk a lot, start phoning each other more etc I still have that feeling in the back of my mind but forget it. He then phoned me on Xmas saying he has feelings but the very next day takes it back. I’m like wtf at this point and date other people. Then I start thinking - maybe I’m holding on to this guy because of unresolved issues with my ex ? So I stupidly message the ex. My mate/ crush says not to get involved, I don’t listen. We continue as mates talking about our dating lives etc. One day I meet the abusive ex, we end up in bed together, feelings resurface and he says he changed. Like a mug I believe him. Me and crush/mate meet up and we still get on well, I have a flicker of “This is the one you like” but think no, he doesn’t like me back. Then my being with the abusive ex once more causes us all to fall out. Me and the guy stop talking altogether and he blocks me on everything. The abuser guy has a go at him for not telling him about my boyfriends etc which was weird. Then the mate/crush thinks I’m causing drama. So we don’t talk. Abuser is still the same (shock) and we end it. I move on, continue uni, work, kids etc and then a month or so out of the blue mate/crush texts me. We go to our old ways of fairly frequent communication and my feelings are very much still there. I have an inkling he might feel the same but I’m not sure. He speaks about other women, tinder etc so I mostly think he wants to be a mate. But he spends a lot of time talking to me and I just have a feeling .... I just don’t know. SO what do I do? Keep going as “mates” /confess and get burned?/he confesses and we are happy/ there’s too much water under the bridge?

We get on really well and I’m attracted to him and honestly? We just have a laugh. So I don’t know where to take it or what to feel. I know I messed up by going back to an ex but he’s been up and down too :/ my family say if he wanted me he would have made a move. What do you think?

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Hazyhayz · 07/11/2018 00:45

Read back your story and you have your anwser. Its very clear you need to move on and stop going back to someone unavailable. Your wasting your time. Your better than that and worth more.

maximumcarnage · 07/11/2018 02:22

What a mess. It’s like watching a human pinball machine. You’re all over the shop. You seek to be gravitating back to this guy over and over but he keeps blowing hot and cold. It’s ridiculous. Based off of what you’ve written I’d walk away. None of these guys seem to have a shred of respect for you. Agree with the other poster, you can do better.

Peridot1 · 07/11/2018 02:55

It’s not at all complicated or strange. He’s stringing you along.

DonkeyPlease · 07/11/2018 02:55

Please stop dating until you grow up a bit and have more stable mental health. None of this is normal. Did I read correctly that you have children? If so please think of them and the example you're setting.

Have you been assessed by a mental health team? Do you have any diagnosis?

bubbles108 · 07/11/2018 03:26

Stay away from all men and romantic relationships until you get your head straight.

1forAll74 · 07/11/2018 03:37

Oh dear, I have now lost track with all this going with this man.going with that man, and you have children also, what on earth are you playing at ? What an awful muddle of a lifestyle.

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Coyoacan · 07/11/2018 04:42

Your crush has the emotional age of a two-year-old.

category12 · 07/11/2018 05:45

Imagine what you could achieve with half the mental energy that these rotten relationships take up.

Stop dating for a while. This guy is not worth your time or energy: he's neither your friend nor a good potential partner, he's playing mindgames with you. He and your abusive ex are cut from the same cloth.

Do the freedom programme and reset your relationship boundaries. Spend some time on your own, being your own person. Raise your standards for how you will be treated in relationships.

Angrybird345 · 07/11/2018 05:50

Walk away!

Anon1996 · 07/11/2018 07:27

My children are nowhere near these men thank you very much. I have been diagnosed with chronic anxiety nothing more, my children are happy, healthy and thriving. This matter is separate from them. Even the relationships I conduct they are not involved, the boyfriend I was with met them once during a year and I saw him if I had a sitter/they were at my mothers. Don’t judge someone’s lifestyle based upon one thing we all have our demons. I have kept a job, almost finished a degree and manage to look after my children - my love life is separate. Helpful comments only please.

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Anon1996 · 07/11/2018 07:30

Despite how it sounds it’s not as muddly in reality. I have the good grace to keep my love life separate from my children. There are two men involved, one of which I’ve never even kissed and the other who is my only relationship since being a single mother (and was kept very separate from my children). I came here looking for advice on something I can’t get my head around, please try to be tactful not judgemental.

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LovingLiving · 07/11/2018 07:31

It’s not complicated or strange. It’s just a bloke messing you around. Why don’t you just call it a day?

Anon1996 · 07/11/2018 07:32

Thank you, this was a really helpful reasoned comment xxx

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Anon1996 · 07/11/2018 07:36

And to add, most of the dates I’ve been on are very formal. No men come into my house at all and I don’t sleep around, I enjoy their company, text and that’s it mostly.

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Anon1996 · 07/11/2018 07:39

I reasoned that he was acting this way because he wanted to be loyal to his friend, so respected this “friends” thing. If it was anyone else I would have been gone long ago. However, people’s reaction to this has been really helpful in a way I couldn’t get from my close friends- who don’t understand it at all.

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LizzieSiddal · 07/11/2018 07:40

I won’t be judgemental.

The crush man is not interested in you. And the fact he keeps messing you about should be a huge red flag. He is not a nice person. He will continue to mess with you, whilst you let him.
Imagine if you were in a rerelationship with him, you’d never have a moments peace, you’d be constantly worried he was going to ghost you again.

Please block him today and forget about him.

Anon1996 · 07/11/2018 07:42

Trust me I’ve considered it many times. Obviously because of the “drama” he’s come and gone many times. For instance he was non stop texting Saturday night and all of the previous week. I thought maybe it would get to the point where he admits something or asks to meet, instead on Sunday night he messages talking about some girl he picked up in a bar... so it’s like ok why did you spend the whole night on the phone to me and then pick up a woman? It’s just weird and a bit of a headfuck

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Anon1996 · 07/11/2018 07:44

I don’t know if these replies are going to specific people or just adding to the thread. You are right, it is because I am letting him. And I’ve considered how it would be if we were actually together and it would be a nightmare if it resembled this. I just had the naive hope that he would stop playing games and actually move this forward. Thanks for the helpful comment

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Joysmum · 07/11/2018 07:47

Google ‘Fool me once’ and take heed. Wink

Being fooled doesn’t make you foolish unless you continue to fall for the same old shit. I lost count at 4 times in your opening post. Stop being a fool. Why aren’t you angry at the way both men have treated you to have a fuck you attitude?

Someone who likes and respects you wouldn’t treat you like that. Block and move on Flowers

picklemepumpkin · 07/11/2018 07:52

Try thinking of it like this....

Would you want to date an abuser's friend? Someone who knows what the abuser is like, knows what they do, but remains their friend?

JollyAndBright · 07/11/2018 07:56

Honestly, he is never going to commit to a relationship with you, he is either A, he’s not interested in you at all but stringing you along because he like the control/attention of you fancing and wanting to date him.
B, he does like you but for some reason is refusing to commit to actually dating you, it may be loyalty to the ex, it may be that he’s just not into you enough or his not a relationship kind of person, whatever the reason he is not going to change.
C, he’s genuinely your friend and does enjoy the flirtation and fantasy but doesn’t realistically want a relationship more than friends.

Personally I think it’s probably C, but regardless this has been going on for YEARS and it’s never going to change, he’s not going to suddenly get over whatever it is that’s making him mess you around.

You are only going to end up getting hurt if you carry on pinning your hopes on him.

If you want a friendship with him limit him to just that, personally I don’t think I could do that though and I would just cut all contact.
You need to move on and find someone decent who will treat you like you deserve to be treated.

AntiHop · 07/11/2018 07:56

Move on. He's not treating you with respect. Is this one of these threads where we're all going to say the same thing and you're going to tell us all why we're wrong? I hope not.

ProudThrilledHappy · 07/11/2018 07:59

Tbh you sound like you just need to be in a relationship with someone and it doesn’t really matter who.

Giantbanger · 07/11/2018 08:03

Stop dating anyone until you sort your head out.