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Is DH depressed or is it over?

61 replies

sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 09:55

This is going to be a long post, sorry.

I don’t really know where to begin. My DH and I have been together 12 years and married for 4, he has always been a very emotionally distant person (rarely wanted sex, but watched a lot of porn even from the beginning of our relationship), and because of this distance we always had our ups and downs. He has also done some awful things like going on a bender the day our first child was born and not returning for 2 days (I ended up with ptsd after this as I was alone in a room after a traumatic ecs for that time). It wasn’t all been bad though, until we got married.

As soon as we married he changed, I didn’t know as the time but 8 weeks after our wedding he kissed my bridesmaid at a party I was at. He also became a cocaine addict for 2 years which I found out about after a long period of him acting strange (I thought he was drinking heavily) and I looked at his phone to find hundreds of explicit messages to other women on a dating (sex) website. He did a lot of really shocking things at this time which culminated in him throwing us out of the house and him saying he never loved me (which he later tearfully said the doesn’t know why he says these things).

He was diagnosed with depression, took ads but came off them as they made him feel odd. We worked on things, moved to a new city and things were improving, he came off drugs (with a few NA meetings and willpower). Then the heavy drinking started. Drinking for days on end, in the mornings after, being found by the side of the road by strangers and being carried home - plus much more. He told me again that he is not in love with me. Ran away to a hotel (I think) for a few days then came back a few days after saying he does love me and doesn’t know why he says these things.

We bought a house and his drinking continued, he had a 4 day bender where I had to go to my mums with the children after this he swore to lay off the booze. He went to the dr, started taking St. John’s wort and passionflower and things were good for 5/6 weeks (more affection but still no real sexual contact). Still off the booze, Two weeks ago his mood started slipping back. He had been taking a body building supplement that affects serotonin so I got him to stop all that which he was annoyed about and since then has withdrawn completely. We were still chatting and being friendly, but he wouldn’t touch or kiss me. Then Saturday night I spoke to him about it and he said it again “I’m not in love with you”. He was stone cold sober still. I said I give you a week to decide if you want to work on this marriage or leave.

My predicament is this:

Is his depression causing him to feel numb to passionate love? Or should I accept that he has genuinely fallen out of love for me and that it’s the end? The reason I am worried is because I do not want to break up my family because my husband is depressed. Last month was so nice, I actually felt bliss and contentment and could see a lot of hope in our future.

I should add I think he has been living with depression for at least 20 years. He was a self saboteur before I met him. He went to counselling briefly in the last few months, but had a good day and said he felt good and they signed him off immediately. I don’t know what he spoke about with the counsellor.

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ohfourfoxache · 29/10/2018 10:02

It doesn’t matter what the reason is - the reality it that he’s a cunt and he’s not going to change.

Please, cut your losses. Not on for your sake but for your dc’s sake

AttilaTheMeerkat · 29/10/2018 10:09

What sort of a relationship are you modelling to your DC here?.

What are you getting out of this relationship now?. What is in this for you that is still worth having?. He has fundamentally not changed in all the years you have known him. This is who he is; an addict who has and continues to deny and lie to both you and himself incessantly.

PookieDo · 29/10/2018 10:13

You describe a truely horrible partner. Depression doesn’t make people do these things to the person who loves them. Depression is his excuse. He’s selfish and horrible that’s what’s wrong with him. He’s been like this for years do you really see him changing any time soon?

In your shoes I would be filled with relief. Do you have money? Do you have anywhere to live? You should focus on separating (and never returning)

NotTheFordType · 29/10/2018 10:15

Jesus christ, why the fuck are you with this clown?

thinkofablinkingnamewoman · 29/10/2018 10:15

I don't think it's possible to sum it up better than ohfourfoxache has done. Get out. Now.

irrate · 29/10/2018 10:15

Op please leave him.

Yes you had a good month but compared to the years of he'll and struggle he put you through it is not worth carrying on. He is NOT going to change. Please wake up and smell the coffee. Being depressed is no excuse for his behaviour, please stop making excuses for him. He is his own person who is capable of making his own decisions.

He has said he doesn't love you, and as much as that hurts he is telling you the truth. Use this to your advantage and leave him and be happy in your life. You only get one chance at life, please don't waste any more time on trying to change him it's not going to work.

Notacluewhatthisis · 29/10/2018 10:19

How many excuses are you going to give him?

He has been a cunt for 99% of your relationship.

sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 10:23

I know what you say is correct of course I do, but it’s not as simple as him being mean. He never says nasty things to me and our every day life is nice enough. That’s what makes it so complicated.

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Clutterbugsmum · 29/10/2018 10:26

It’s not depression.

He using depression as an excuse to abuse you.

He is an addict plain and simple whether it’s Porn, drugs or alcohol it’s all the same.

sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 10:28

Attila - exactly the same as the one I saw with my mum and her partner at the time.

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Notacluewhatthisis · 29/10/2018 10:28

He never says nasty things to me and our every day life is nice enough.

Yes he does. He threw you and you kids out, he kissed your bridesmaid, he abandoned you when you have birth. You can blame his substance of choice, at each of those times.

Your life isn't nice enough. Not for your kids.

Cawfee · 29/10/2018 10:28

Blimey. I would have got rid when he went on that bender when your kid was born let alone the rest! Then kissing a bridesmaid...is this actually for real because it sounds like the plot of an episode of eastenders!! Surely normal people don’t tolerate this crap? If it is for real then you really do need some help ASAP to understand why you put up with such horrendous treatment. Don’t you have any self respect at all? Jesus.

PookieDo · 29/10/2018 10:28

@sicasaparrot

I honestly am a bit lost for words. Your standards are in the basement thanks to this prince
So because he doesn’t say mean things it’s fine:
To cheat on you with a friend
Cheat online
Do copious amounts of drugs and alcohol spending your family money
Abandon you frequently
Throw you out of your house
Tell you he doesn’t love you anymore

You know none of this is normal right?

sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 10:28

clutterbug - can you be an alcoholic if you’ve not drunk anything for weeks?

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Notacluewhatthisis · 29/10/2018 10:29

exactly the same as the one I saw with my mum and her partner at the time.

And you are reliving it. Why do you want that for your kids?

PookieDo · 29/10/2018 10:30

@sicasaparrot

What does it matter if he is or not? You can’t cure him. He’s got so many issues this is just one of them

Clutterbugsmum · 29/10/2018 10:31

Of course he not abusive all the time if he was you wouldn’t have stayed and had kids with him would you.

I’ve had depression on and off since I was 14/15 I’m now 49 and I have never behaved like your husband.

If it really is depression he would be seeing his doctor and getting it sorted. But he’s not he using things which will make it 100 times worse.

sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 10:36

Of course I know it’s not normal and sounds like Eastenders (I didn’t know about the cheating until two years after). All the stuff happened over a period of years, not all at once. So I forgave him and hoped for more. To look at us you’d never guess at any of this, on paper I have everything I ever wanted except for a loving husband. But when you have three children with someone (and have put all you have into raising them) it’s hard to break up a family. And foolish as it may be. I do love him and he does have many redeeming qualities when he’s not acting nuts.

I have very low self esteem, I gained weight when he started using after our wedding, and feel he doesn’t fancy me because of that.

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sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 10:37

He’s at the doctors as we speak.

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PookieDo · 29/10/2018 10:41

This is all about him isn’t it
Nothing about what you and your DC need. So while he’s at the doctors trying to find an excuse for his behaviour and likely minimising it all you are at home trying to work out how to fix him. This is not right.

sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 10:53

It’s always about him. And I’m always happy little grateful wifey who makes nice dinners and showers him with adoration...and I know it’s fucked up. Of course I know! I also don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t love me, that’s pointless. But he has struggled with mental health for a long time, I don’t want to break up if he can get better. I took my vows seriously (even if he didn’t). We get on well, are good friends (maybe that’s all we are, I don’t know), and I don’t want to give up on someone if they are ill.

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PookieDo · 29/10/2018 11:00

This has been 12 years of putting all your needs to the back and you have kids. You have to reach a point where you and the DC are more important than his never ending problems

Don’t see it as giving up because he has given up on you anyway. Accept he’s given up and focus on the DC and yourself. All you are doing is clinging onto something that is doomed to fail - he’s selfish. I wish I could give you advice to help him but he doesn’t seem to deserve it. If your lovely husband suddenly hit a bad patch then yes, I would. But he’s always been this way from the sounds of things. It’s not a new problem

TheWiseWomansFear · 29/10/2018 11:02

I don't think he loves you tbh, and I don't think it would matter if he did - he's an arsehole who's putting your kids in danger

platesandflowers · 29/10/2018 11:05

I don't think he does love you. He certainly doesn't like you much.

Save yourself more heartache and leave, it'll only get worse.

platesandflowers · 29/10/2018 11:06

Depression doesn't make you cheat.