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Is DH depressed or is it over?

61 replies

sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 09:55

This is going to be a long post, sorry.

I don’t really know where to begin. My DH and I have been together 12 years and married for 4, he has always been a very emotionally distant person (rarely wanted sex, but watched a lot of porn even from the beginning of our relationship), and because of this distance we always had our ups and downs. He has also done some awful things like going on a bender the day our first child was born and not returning for 2 days (I ended up with ptsd after this as I was alone in a room after a traumatic ecs for that time). It wasn’t all been bad though, until we got married.

As soon as we married he changed, I didn’t know as the time but 8 weeks after our wedding he kissed my bridesmaid at a party I was at. He also became a cocaine addict for 2 years which I found out about after a long period of him acting strange (I thought he was drinking heavily) and I looked at his phone to find hundreds of explicit messages to other women on a dating (sex) website. He did a lot of really shocking things at this time which culminated in him throwing us out of the house and him saying he never loved me (which he later tearfully said the doesn’t know why he says these things).

He was diagnosed with depression, took ads but came off them as they made him feel odd. We worked on things, moved to a new city and things were improving, he came off drugs (with a few NA meetings and willpower). Then the heavy drinking started. Drinking for days on end, in the mornings after, being found by the side of the road by strangers and being carried home - plus much more. He told me again that he is not in love with me. Ran away to a hotel (I think) for a few days then came back a few days after saying he does love me and doesn’t know why he says these things.

We bought a house and his drinking continued, he had a 4 day bender where I had to go to my mums with the children after this he swore to lay off the booze. He went to the dr, started taking St. John’s wort and passionflower and things were good for 5/6 weeks (more affection but still no real sexual contact). Still off the booze, Two weeks ago his mood started slipping back. He had been taking a body building supplement that affects serotonin so I got him to stop all that which he was annoyed about and since then has withdrawn completely. We were still chatting and being friendly, but he wouldn’t touch or kiss me. Then Saturday night I spoke to him about it and he said it again “I’m not in love with you”. He was stone cold sober still. I said I give you a week to decide if you want to work on this marriage or leave.

My predicament is this:

Is his depression causing him to feel numb to passionate love? Or should I accept that he has genuinely fallen out of love for me and that it’s the end? The reason I am worried is because I do not want to break up my family because my husband is depressed. Last month was so nice, I actually felt bliss and contentment and could see a lot of hope in our future.

I should add I think he has been living with depression for at least 20 years. He was a self saboteur before I met him. He went to counselling briefly in the last few months, but had a good day and said he felt good and they signed him off immediately. I don’t know what he spoke about with the counsellor.

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toherdoor · 29/10/2018 11:08

Jesus Christ op raise the bar. He's an absolute cunt. What are you teaching your kids? I feel sorry for them.

Livingloving · 29/10/2018 11:22

Even one of those things is shocking. I don’t know why you are defending him.

sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 11:43

I’m not defending him. The stuff he has done is deplorable but he isn’t fucking awful day in day out if he was it would be easier to say goodbye.

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BrioLover · 29/10/2018 11:44

I'm sorry OP. I think you're a boiled frog in this situation - you've not realised quite how awful it is because you've been right in the middle of it, and it's been a drip drip drip of shit.

You need to get your finances sorted and get out of there. Or get him out, whichever works for you.

How much money has he spend on drugs, alcohol and porn do you think? Thousands? Tens of thousands? Imagine what you could have done with that money. Home improvements, holidays, trips for the children...

It will never get better. He is intrinsically selfish and couldn't give a flying fuck about you - if he did then he wouldn't have thrown you out of your home, repeatedly tell you he doesn't love you, leave you on drink/drugs binges (at your most vulnerable after giving birth), cheat on you... the list goes on. You're not friends OP. Friends don't treat each other like this.

PookieDo · 29/10/2018 12:00

Even one of these things is enough to end a relationship. What would he actually have to do to you that is worse than this to change your mind about him?

53rdWay · 29/10/2018 12:16

It doesn’t really matter why he treats you so terribly. The fact is that he IS treating you terribly. And he has done continually for years and he has given you no reason to think he’ll ever stop, other than just temporarily. Either he can’t stop doing this or he just doesn’t want to stop doing this, but at the end of the day it’s the same result for you either way.

It can really mess up your head when someone is treating you badly but you know they have mental health issues as well. You can find yourself thinking “oh but maybe he’s just troubled because... and he finds it difficult to cope because... and he pushes me away because... and I need to help him!” But at the end of the day you can’t help him. All you can do is protect yourself and your children from the worst effects of his behaviour.

Notacluewhatthisis · 29/10/2018 13:00

So I forgave him and hoped for more.

And at what point are you going to be realistic.

sicasaparrot · 29/10/2018 15:29

I’ve said to him we’ll discuss our separation when he comes home so I guess I’m accepting that I have to let him go.

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HollowTalk · 29/10/2018 15:36

You really need to know why you didn't kick him out each of the times he behaved like a complete bastard.

I think you have a very, very low bar of what's acceptable. He's told you umpteen times he doesn't want you and you are responding with "Well, you've got one last chance." He doesn't want one last chance! He wants to go off and fuck up his life on his own. He doesn't want a family life.

Onthebrink87 · 29/10/2018 15:36

You aren't letting him go you're setting yourself and your dc free and too bloody Right!

HisBetterHalf · 29/10/2018 16:09

He never says nasty things to me

Yet you say he has told you numerous times he doesnt love you?

Thingsdogetbetter · 29/10/2018 17:27

So you supported, enabled, protected and covered for him for years? Now he's 'sober' he's decided he doesn't love you anymore. Wtf.

He obviously never truly loved you, but he desperately needed you. Now he doesn't. Simple!

You obviously needed him too. Complete codependancy. You've made him your life, to the deferment of everyone and everything else. You need to work out how to live without being this man's buffer to the real world. Face up to the role you've playing in enabling him, depression or twatdom makes no difference. Would you know how to live your life without your normal of being his buffer?

Gingerlover2 · 29/10/2018 17:44

He's an addict, he's gone from one addiction to another to fill the hole, clearly has severe mental health issues. You've stood by for years and let him behave appallingly which has enabled him to keep on behaving badly and not deal with the underlying issues that have got you both to this point

HE needs counselling/psychiatric care.

YOU need to now put you and the children first as growing up in such a toxic environment will have huge implications on their mental health and possibly have issues with addiction themselves.

The best way to do this would for him to move out so you learn to love yourself and give the kids a chance of some normality. Not sure if this is possible but all the time you're in this codependent relationship things will never get better.

ThatLibraryMiss · 29/10/2018 18:07

can you be an alcoholic if you’ve not drunk anything for weeks?

Yes. Someone close to me is an addict. Has been completely clean for three years and three months now. Still an addict. Always will be.

If he's stopped using alcohol but hasn't addressed the reasons for his using he's a dry drunk. The hole in his life that he filled with alcohol is still there, and so are his behaviours. You could Google "dry drunk" and see if you recognise him in any of the descriptions. If you want support, Al-Anon is supposed to be good if there's a local group or you could ask Google for local support groups for families of addicts. It would help you to see what you're doing to enable his behaviours and how to withdraw that, when and if you want to.

You did not cause his addiction, but you can choose whether to continue to enable it. It's a decision you have to make for yourself, just like getting clean is for him, but there is help out there for both of you.

ferando81 · 29/10/2018 18:28

He's telling you the truth (He doesn't love you)but you don't want to believe him and are looking for excuses (Depression,alcohol problems).Bottom line is he's a cunt and there is no cure for that.

sicasaparrot · 30/10/2018 18:39

He left this morning.

Thank you all for reading and your responses.

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sicasaparrot · 26/12/2018 07:22

Sorry to resurrect an old one, but I wanted to add an update...yesterday I found out H had been having an affair. It’s been going on months. So was an OW. I can move on now. The relief is immense.

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Rubytinsleslippers · 26/12/2018 07:34

You are still in a place where this is all 'his' choices dictating what happens. If he had not left you'd still be allowing this to happen to you.
Please take time - for yourself. Get counselling. Spend time with people who value you. You do not seem to see yourself as worth anything better than the shit you have been peddled by this dick ( and he is abusive even if he never struck you ).
Do not take him back, as i suspect OW will not put up with his behaviour and he'll be back promising the world. Have some self respect.

RyderWhiteSwan · 26/12/2018 07:43

What Rubytinsleslippers said. Focus on yourself. Do not have him back. Ever.

lolaflores · 26/12/2018 07:51

I just read this thread. This was my ex. You have been given your life back. Take it and cherish it in the way he never has or ever would.
There are no maybe left.
This man has done you a favour.
Please see a solicitor tomorrow and vapourise hin

sicasaparrot · 26/12/2018 07:53

I honestly never, ever will. He is going today.

I’m just not sure what to do about finances now. I have just started a job (0 hours contract) I was very dependant on him to do two drop offs and two pick ups a week. I don’t know if I’d be better off leaving to job or not (because it’s 0 hour). If anyone knows about how the benefits system works I’d appreciate advice.

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 26/12/2018 07:56

Glad to read your update, sicasaparrot. The waste of space doesn't deserve any more of your time or attention.

Please take the time to have extensive counseling and don't think about dating until you've done it. Your Ex did such a number on you that he had you tripping over yourself to put things right for the poor suffering soul, when to an outsider it was obvious that he was a selfish piece of shit who didn't give tuppence for your well-being.

If you don't examine your own role in tolerating this dysfunction and how the years of intermittent abuse damaged you there's a high chance your next relationship will be toxic too.

Onwards and upwards! Courage and joy for the New Year. Xmas Smile

smerlin · 26/12/2018 07:58

I'm so glad you have taken this step @sicasaparrot

Take it one day at a time and you will get through this. What a positive step for your children also.

Gina2012 · 26/12/2018 08:12

The reason I am worried is because I do not want to break up my family because my husband is depressed

You 'should' end your marriage because your husband is a twat

Gina2012 · 26/12/2018 08:13

He is going today.

Well done you Thanks

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