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Adult DS1 raised his hand to me

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PatsyCatsy · 26/09/2018 16:49

Sorry this is so incredibly long. Complex situation and don't want to dripfeed.

I have two sons, 23 and 26. My DH died when they were still at primary school. DS2 reacted in a normal way to bereavement. DS1 seemed OK for 15 months but then cracked up. He became a complete recluse. The NHS was useless. I got relentless pressure about his school attendance. But he wasn't just missing school, he was locked in his dark bedroom (often sobbing) pretty much 24/7. He thought of suicide daily during this period.

This went on for two whole years. We got no help of any sort. We later got an apology from CAMHS.

DS1 only recovered enough for home tuition at 14, by which time it was too late to rescue his GCSEs. School was never likely to be easy for him as he has the most severe 10% of dyslexia and the top 1% of intelligence. His DF's death was the final straw.

Since he was 18 he has only had two real jobs . Neither lasted 6 months. He's had the odd day cash in hand but that's all.

He has no money so pays no keep. He won't sign on for benefits because he gets desperately anxious. However this is a real burden for me - and his DB I am unable to work due to ill health and living on £700 a month. Out of that I feed DS1 and his girlfriend who is here 5 nights a week. We wouldn't be able to keep the house going if it weren't for DS2, who has a good job he enjoys and gladly pays his way.

18 months ago DS1 wrecked the ground floor of our house in a state of alcoholic psychosis. He smashed lots of stuff and ripped the back door off its hinges. It was terrifying. The police were wonderful. He's very big and strong, though I have never feared he would hit me.

After that he was very remorseful for weeks. He has not got drunk since. But I have become increasingly troubled that he's going to end up at 40 still squatting in my basement.

Life Is just passing him by. I try to get him to discuss both his future and the money every few months. There are always promises but nothing actually changes.

I reached a decision over the summer that it was bad for all of us to put up with this any longer. I told him he needed to get a job and prepare to move out.

So to today:

My Sky box has been bust for weeks and the engineers arrived this morning. When I took them into the TV room my TV had gone. Turns out DS1 had taken it and had screwed it to the wall. He refused to unscrew it. Said it was too difficult.

The Sky engineers had to leave. They can't come again for over a month. I was furious.

I was remonstrating with him, with him shouting at me through his locked bedroom door. He lives in the basement and none of us are allowed in. Eventually he came to the door and held it half open.

Then, when I shouted at him again, his hand came out very quickly and he slapped my arm. It didn't hurt or make a mark. I'm not frightened. What I am is totally shocked.

I feel this is a massive step in the wrong direction. I can't overlook this.

He hotly denies that he has any MH issues. However I have been operating his whole adult life on the basis that his MH is very poor, with severe depression and anxiety. If I am wrong and he's fine, his treatment of me would be appalling.

I feel he is immensely vulnerable. It worries me sick, plus the situation is so unfair on his DB.

DS2 plans to move out in the next 9 months. He would rather stay at home and save money towards a deposit for a place (he pays less here than rent would be) but he just can't tolerate DS1's behaviour.

I'm going to have to kick DS1 out, aren't I?

OP posts:
subspace · 27/09/2018 22:42

I really feel for you. It must be very hard.

It sounds great if it would happen but you know they won't be out at New Year. Yes she can and should work full time and if he can work then DUH of course he should already be doing it.

It sounds as if your kick up the bum might have kick started them. I'm worried for all of you that it would lose momentum if you were to relent on your convictions now. It's still not okay that he hit you. That alone has got to be the line drawn, he must move out, that must be a deed properly punished for want of a better word, because god knows it will get worse if he learns that your threat is empty.

Stick to your guns.

subspace · 27/09/2018 22:49

Just read that again. So you tell him he had to leave, he and his gf kick up a shitstorm then swan off to bloomin Manchester foot the weekend?

I'd have their belongings packed ready for them to collect and go live with her family in their own place by the time they get back. Can you afford a few days for them in a cheapest local b&b when they get back, so they have a deadline for finding their own place by the end of that week because they are NOT moving back in with you! I'd definitely change the locks, even if you don't do that, neither he nor her get a key to your house any more. Keep going you are going to win and that will serve him far better than the status quo. Tough mother's love.

subspace · 27/09/2018 22:50

In fact no, fuck it. Tell then they can stay at her family's or anywhere else until they get their own place sorted. Don't pay b&b at all.

subspace · 29/09/2018 13:30

@patsycatsy how are you getting on?

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