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Is this a huge thing...or am I being silly?

118 replies

ThunderInMyHeart · 09/09/2018 10:56

I appreciate my issue is tiny in comparison to other threads on this board, but it's been niggling me.

Last night I (31) was out with my boyfriend (30, dating a year, live together) and his friends for a friend's birthday celebration. Not a huge fan of this friendship group - they regularly go away for long weekends just to do drugs... BF has not been on the last few weekends (that have occurred whilst dating me) as he 'doesn't want to do drugs any more'. I hide the disdain for their lifestyles from the group. BF full well knows my thoughts.

BF has said for the last few months that he's going to look for a new job (we both are due to mortgage/house-buying reasons). I committed to the same thing and have been/am going through 4 different interviews processes; he, none. His CV hasn't even gone out. For context, I am already pulling double weight financially in that my salary is twice his.

He's childish when drunk i.e. says random unrelated sentences interrupting the other person talking. I feel like I have to paper/gloss over his bizarre interjections. Babysit him. It's embarrassing, but not that much of a biggie. But last night, him and the friends are jokingly flipping the bird at each other, just being fucking teenage. I’m just grinning and wishing I could go home…I’d had to go into the office that afternoon to work and on-top of the month of interviews I’ve been doing (with the aim of: buy house, get great mat package…being a grown-up), I just thought, ‘FFS. When is he going to grow up? He says he wants kids with me, buy a house etc, but, jesus. It feels like I’m the only one putting pen to paper…and he enjoys these shit-tastic nights out with these people’

Anyway, I’m chatting to one of his friends and enjoying the conversation, then I see my boyfriend at the bar talking to one of the girls in the group. He’s known her for maybe 4-5 years, but last saw her a year ago. They’re not best friends or even great friends. I see him wrap his arms around her waist, her arms over his shoulders, he’s lifting her up and bear-hugging. Her feet are dangling in the air and it’s full-body contact with her head in his neck. I was fuming, but had to restrain for the sake of not upsetting the party. When he came over to me, I said ‘that’s not cool what you did’…his reply: ‘oh you’re being ridiculous. She has a boyfriend’…as if her having a boyfriend makes a difference. What then pissed me off further was that he apologised to me, but then called me ridiculous for feeling how I did…so, in essence, a non-apology. He admitted that had a guy done that to me, he wouldn’t have liked it at all. In my book, that kind of a hug is 100% not appropriate.

I left the party about 15 minutes later. And part of me did think 'what else does he do when drunk? What else haven't I seen?' - as I said, he's immature when drunk...easily led. He is the classic example of a Bilbo Baggins 'I'm going on an adventure!' when he's drunk.

So, and I’m sorry this is so garbled, my questions are: i) would that hug have pissed you off? And ii) would you be concerned about his, in my eyes, immature lifestyle?

Other thoughts/answers obviously welcomed! Thank you.

OP posts:
ThunderInMyHeart · 09/09/2018 11:12

The other girl had been at the party for hours before this hug. They'd already chatted. So it wasn't a case of 'OMG! OMG! Ciiiiiii'

It's just this one group. His other friends are lovely and have their shit together.

OP posts:
QueenOfMyWorld · 09/09/2018 11:13

Sounds v immature.Id reassess the relationship if I were you.

BIWI · 09/09/2018 11:15

Sorry but he's just not on the same page as you, is he? I think you know that in your heart of hearts. Move on and find someone more worthy of you.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/09/2018 11:16

Patient, kind and caring are the barest of bare minimal requirements for a relationship and he is really none of those things.

What did you yourself learn about relationships when you were growing up?.

He is not your project to rescue and or save here and never was either. I asked you what you get out of this relationship. The fact that you cannot or equally will not answer that speaks volumes.

woolduvet · 09/09/2018 11:16

You seem fixated on the hug, everyone else is bothered about the money and future.

TubeTop · 09/09/2018 11:18

You aren't that into him. You need to find someone who's more compatible with you, and allow your current bf to do the same.

JungWan · 09/09/2018 11:19

You sound like you have your head screwed on. Go ahead with your plans to get a better job in the area you want to live in and buy a house on your own and enjoy the beautiful tidy house that won't be full of his druggy mates who he fits in fine with.

He just isn't in the same place you're in. You're in a good place. Don't let him be the albatross around your neck.

Singlenotsingle · 09/09/2018 11:20

You need someone more mature, not this man-child. But if you DO go ahead with your plan to buy a house, make sure your £40k deposit is protected ie with a deed of trust

Knittedfairies · 09/09/2018 11:21

The fact you’re thinking this is a huge thing makes it a huge thing. If you didn’t have other concerns over this relationship it might not have bothered you.

Whisky2014 · 09/09/2018 11:22

God. I'm not not sure about the hug. I have friends who pick me up and cuddle me but there's not anything in it. But head in neck etc would probably annoy me.

The stupid immaturity of him though, Yeh id be leaving him. I think you need to move on and get someone more up your street.

Nanny0gg · 09/09/2018 11:23

He's paying half when he earns much less than you? Hardly seems fair.

RainySeptember · 09/09/2018 11:23

I'm fairly certain that, when planning a life together, you are supposed to love the bones of that person just the way they are.

Not the way you want them to be, or hope to make them, or they can be at times under certain circumstances. The way they are.

You are incompatible and should break up now or face a lifetime of resentment.

And actually I don't really think he sounds that bad. He has stopped going on the drug-fuelled weekends and pays 50% bills despite earning significantly less than you. He might be a childish drunk, but there are worse drunks to be. Who cares, as long as it is an occasional thing? Just don't go next time and leave him to it. The hug sounds harmless.

FogCutter · 09/09/2018 11:24

He sounds like a lazy, immature man-child. Do you really want to be propping him up financially and personally for the rest of your life?

JungWan · 09/09/2018 11:24

ps, I'm not a jealous person but the hug would bother me too. It was unnecessary as you say the saw each other earlier in the evening. It was so blatantly flirting with you present. It was disrespectful. Others might call me a possessive prude but I really don't think I am. I just don't want somebody who is supposedly committed to me to be publicly enjoying physical contact with somebody else and then DISMISSING me for feeling it was a step too far afterwards.

Whisky2014 · 09/09/2018 11:25

Oh just read update that it wasn't just as he saw her...so Yeh I probably would be annoyed by it but maybe wouldnt say anything.
I couldn't be arsed with the rest though. The stupid non sensical sentences interrupting people. That would do my head in!

deepsea · 09/09/2018 11:26

You are completely different people, in vastly different worlds and with completely different values. This is not going to end well for you.

He will continue to drink (and probably take drugs behind your back) he knows your boundaries but thought nothing of flouting them in front of you. He is jobless and quite frankly I am baffled as to why you even want to be with someone like this.

You sound like a very together young lady wasting your youth and time on a loser. You deserve so much better than this! You have sold yourself down the river and some.

Run for the hills whilst you still can. Ignore the replies and you will look back on this with regret is my guess.

JungWan · 09/09/2018 11:26

ps2 I do agree that it's not quite fair to expect him to pay half when he earns so much less than you.

So you're NOT propping him up at this point. He's not with you for the easy ride then because he isn't getting that.

You're not on the same page though.

Rebecca36 · 09/09/2018 11:26

He sounds incredibly immature. Ditch him and tell him why.

ReanimatedSGB · 09/09/2018 11:30

You're not compatible. You (and PP) think he is lazy, childish and immature but he may well think you are a controlling funsponge. Neither of you is actually wrong; neither of you is actually right (there is nothing wrong with preferring a relaxed, good-times life to scurrying to keep up with the rest of the rats in what is frankly a rigged game) but you are not going to make each other happy so cut your losses and move on.

HollowTalk · 09/09/2018 11:30

You're putting in £40K and he is putting in nothing.

He's immature, mixes with knobheads and hasn't done anything about looking for a new job, despite his promises.

He was taking drugs until recently. I would bet my house he'll go back to them.

Can't you see that you're worth so much more than this man?

Trills · 09/09/2018 11:31

I would be leaving him for the first half of your post not the second.

This sums up my reaction too

AnnieAnoniMoose · 09/09/2018 11:31

You’re a grown up living with an immature twat who can’t handle his drink and until very recently was still going on drug-centered weekends away. He’s not looked for a new job, he’s not pulling his weight in saving a deposit. You’ll feel like his mother, he’ll continue to act like a teenager and tell you that you’re boring and a nag. He’ll be god awful if you get pregnant. If you’ve got anything about you, you’ll pull your Big Girl Pants up and leave him. You deserve to be with an actual grown up.

C0untDucku1a · 09/09/2018 11:33

Ok. Ive read your posts.

The hug would not have bothered me at all. UNTIL i saw that it wasn’t when he first saw her. He waited until he had her alone, away from you. That changes it.

BUT, even if the hug could be excused as just a hug, he is clearly immature. He is not ready for an adult relationship. His friends will always be an issue in your relationship. You will always be the one in charge of being an adult.

YOU CANNOT CHANGE HIM. THIS IS WHO HE IS. HE WON’T CHANGE BECAUSE THIS IS HIM.

You don’t like him as he is. Walk away and stop wasting your best years.

marmaladejar · 09/09/2018 11:35

You earn double than him but you split the bills 50:50 then wonder why he doesn't have any savings but you do?

tinstar · 09/09/2018 11:36

ps2 I do agree that it's not quite fair to expect him to pay half when he earns so much less than you.

Interesting that so few have commented on this. Imagine if it was reversed and a man said he earned double his female partner's salary but bills were split equally. There would be outrage on here!

Am also puzzled as to why you sit "grinning" whilst his druggy mates are behaving like prats? Do you really have to try and fit in so much?

Doesn't sound like a great relationship to build on really.

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