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What I've never told anyone, and a thank you

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Buxton8 · 02/09/2018 23:59

Some threads I've read here recently have made me want to share this. No one knows this stuff happened to me. Some people know parts of it. But the deep shame i felt and the memories still make me feel is something I've never shared.

When I was 21 I met a man on a night out. He was gorgeous. He was Nigerian and he felt exciting,

He came on very strong, too strong really and I texted him to let him know i didn't think it was going to work. He bombarded me and charmed me in to changing my mind, I was smitten quite quickly.

Looking back, his behaviour would have thrown up red flags from the beginning, had I been older and wiser. Early on, he would make back handed compliments that made me doubt myself but I couldn't really pull him up on. Mainly comments about my body, how he liked my big thighs. Or how I dressed, saying he liked how I was dressed on the night I met him and wished I looked like that more often. I remember once he told me a female friend has seen a picture of me on his phone and had commented she thought he would have been with someone more glamorous. He knew I liked that picture of me.

Within months he was talking about having a baby. We used condoms but I started secretly taking the pill, even that early on I didn't trust him not to try to get me pregnant by deliberately damaging a condom, he knew I wouldn't sleep with him without one. More than once I said no to sex but he did it anyway. I just let him.

I'm pretty sure he was dealing drugs. He took advantage of me for money and got me to pay for a lot, he was a student and worked a few hours as a bouncer and I genuinely thought he was skint. He bought a car and lied to me that he'd got it for an absolute steal, I always had my suspicions but always ultimately believed him. He had two mobile phones, was secretive and was obviously getting cash from somewhere.

A few times he did a total disappearing act. Looking back i assume he was cheating.

One of the worst incidents happened maybe nine months in. I'd been out after work and was a drunken mess. One of his bouncer mates saw me throwing up in the street. He was mad me for embarrassing him and picked me up. We got to my flat and he told me I needed a shower, he undressed me and sat me in the bottom of the shower with it running. The reason I remember this is because he filmed it, with the camera panning him down to him wanking. When I found it on his phone I was horrified and deleted it. He laughed it off and I accepted it. I believe he'd probably saved it elsewhere or sent it to his friends.

He was forever asking for takeaways, and I went up 2 dress sizes, from a 10 to a 14. He used this as a way to put me down. He said no one else would want me now and I believed him.

He bought me an engagement ring, and used it as a way to manipulate me. Often saying he wanted to propose but couldn't until I did z, y or z. Told me his cousins would laugh if they saw he was marrying someone fat so u had to lose weight. Used the promise of engagement to control me.

Seven or eight months in to our relationship we decided to move in together. We found a new place to rent, I paid the deposit and he owed me half back. I gave my months notice on my flat, then two weeks later, on my birthday, he told me he'd changed his mind. It was too late for me to keep my flat and I had two weeks to find somewhere new. That was the first time he was physically abusive, I was sat on the kitchen floor crying and he grabbed me and dragged me across the floor. Left my arm covered in bruises. It was also the worst, there were a few incidents of grabbing and pushing after that, but I daresay things could have been a lot worse there.

Stupidly I know, I stayed with him and found somewhere new to live. Following that incident was a period of intense loveliness. It's like he could read my mind, he'd push me to breaking point then be absolutely lovely for a few weeks and everything would reset, then repeat.

One if the incidents I'm most ashamed of is this. He'd said weeks before that he didn't like how much weight I'd put on. He laughed and called me a grenade then gleefully explained that it meant a woman who was hot but put a lot of weight on, exploded. It was Valentine's day and I'd made dinner, I sat on his knee and he felt my stomach and the roll I had at the front. I could see what he was thinking and the shame physically crawled over me.

Not long after that, we travelled to a different city for a concert. All paid for by me. He was absolutely vile the entire time we were there, and threatened to leave me there by myself and go home without me. The next morning we had a huge row, and I squared up to him and dared him to hit me if he was such a big man. He pushed me, didn't punch me. I remember walking round the shops crying while he ignored me.

Things didn't last long after that thankfully. By the end I actually hated him, there was nothing but hate left and I found gathering the strength to leave him surprisingly easy, he must have just pushed me past breaking point. He went on to give my engagement ring to another girl and get her pregnant, I'm certain he was seeing her before we split up. They're not together now, and last thing I heard he'd been sent to prison for dealing heroin.

The threads on here have helped me work through and identify a lot of what happened in the just over a year we were together. He systematically broke down my confidence, emotionally abused me, controlled me. His main aim was to get married for a visa I believe, I insisted I wouldn't marry him until he obtained a work visa in his own right so no one could ever accuse our relationship of being a sham. Thank God I kept my head screwed on at least in one respect.

So thank you Mumsnet for helping more than even counselling did in allowing me to understand what happened. I'm an intelligent woman, always been confident and never ever thought anything like that would happen to me. It's now 8 years in the past and I'm happily married with a baby on the way, but it still affects me.

P.s well done if anyone has read to the end! It's an awfully long story

OP posts:
fiercelikefrida · 03/09/2018 00:10

I'm glad Mumsnet has helped you process what happened to you, well done for finding the strength to leave.

adayatthebeach · 03/09/2018 00:10

Thanks for sharing Op I hope it helps someone else. I too was in a abusive relationship when younger. I’m glad your in a much better place. It’s a shame life lessons like this happen. Flowers

MrsGriff8 · 03/09/2018 00:20

Thanks for sharing OP, sorry you had to go through that but glad you're in a better place now Flowers

Abrewfromabridge · 03/09/2018 01:17

This story rang a lot of bells for me from a relationship I had when I was younger.

It is not enough to tell somebody it was not their fault, but it wasn't and I hope you can see that now.

It sounds cliched but you are brave to share this story with such honesty and clarity. You are not alone in having been fooled by somebody.

dogaregreat · 03/09/2018 02:25

All I can say is well done for taking the pill. And not bringing an innocent child into such a toxic relationship with such a vile human being.

I hope you are doing well and find someone who loves and treats you well x

delphguelph · 03/09/2018 02:50

Good for you for detecting an idiot, he sounds like a total waster.
Glad you're happy now 🧡

Mk1234 · 03/09/2018 03:22

Hate that you had to go through this but love that u are stronger than ever now Smile

Mumofwyatt14 · 03/09/2018 03:42

Well done for sharing life's too short on relationships that's just cause pain be happy do what makes you happy Wine

missperegrinespeculiar · 03/09/2018 04:08

Well done you! thanks for sharing with us, this may help other women, as other women's experiences helped you!

HereIgoagainxx · 03/09/2018 04:41

Thank you. Such a powerful story. You endured such horrendous treatment and managed to get out and get the life you deserve.

Did you ever go to counselling?. Talking about what happened with a professional may help if this is still affecting you today ( which is totally understandable).

I'm so glad you are happy now x

ajandjjmum · 03/09/2018 05:01

Thank God you escaped and learned from the experience. Flowers

Buxton8 · 03/09/2018 05:26

Thank you. I did have counselling several years later but I didn't fully open up. She also told me I was irresponsible for not going to the police and for letting him go on and do it again which I accepted, but that wasn't my understanding of a counsellor's role really and it put me off opening up to her more.

I blocked a lot out which still comes back to me when something jogs my memory. Reading through what I've written there's so much missing.

OP posts:
Igmum · 03/09/2018 05:43

💐💐 thank you for sharing OP 💐💐

frenchfancy · 03/09/2018 05:47

It was not your fault. You were not irresponsible. That counsellor should be sacked. Flowers

Destinysdaughter · 03/09/2018 05:55

Sorry you didn’t have a good experience with counselling. I don’t think a lot of counsellors necessarily understand the dynamics in an abusive relationship and how much it can affect people and why they don’t just leave or call the police. It’s like a form of brainwashing. Young women are so vulnerable to this.

But you’re strong, your instincts to stay on the pill were correct and you have learnt from this. Thanks for sharing your story with us. MN is such an invaluable source of support for women, I wish I’d had it when I was younger! 💜

Prettyvase · 03/09/2018 06:15

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itwaseverthus · 03/09/2018 06:27

Maybe the missing bits are really key to unlocking the real stuff? How sad! What a terrible way to be treated when you are so trusting!

Buxton8 · 03/09/2018 06:34

@Prettyvase, please don't call me 'seemingly intelligent'. I am intelligent. I'm unsure if your post was intended to be as rude as I've taken it so I'll answer your questions but please think about how you come across, especially in the context of this kind of post where this is stuff I've clearly stated I haven't told anyone before, and that it still affects me.

No I didn't have poor role models, my parents are in a loving and respectful relationship, my Dad is wonderful and my Mum, whilst a natural nurterer, doesn't stand for any crap.

I, too, in general don't stand for any crap. I stand up for myself and make my opinions known, before and after this man I've happily told men where to go if I've not been happy with the way they've treated me. I'm exactly the sort of person that others would describe in the way you've described your daughters.

One of the things I've struggled to deal with is the feeling of letting myself down and not reacting how I would normally react. This man got under my skin quickly by being the most charming man you could come across and saying all the right things. Then his subtle destroying of my self confidence began until, when things became clearer, I felt powerless against him. I'm not sure if you read the post in full but my self preservation warning light did continually go off, but he'd wrecked my confidence too much to do anything about it.

I do certainly have a line. I would never consider myself vulnerable in fact I'm probably a bit the other way, a bit hard faced. Betraying myself by letting this happen to me is something hard to deal with.

I've read your post again to make sure I've answered your questions and it honestly does come across as so rude, and completely blaming me for the actions of this manipulative man. It took me a long time to accept it wasn't my fault and I'm lucky now that I'm in a position where I'm confident enough not to believe it was my fault, five or six years ago your post would have had me reeling.

OP posts:
category12 · 03/09/2018 06:57

Thank you for talking about it and I'm glad that you're free of him. (I agree prettyvase's post was misjudged or not in good faith).

HeyToTheHo · 03/09/2018 06:59

What a nasty victim blaming post pretty vase

Okeydokeys · 03/09/2018 07:07

Flowers. I'm glad mnet has helped you.

Prettyvase · 03/09/2018 09:14

I am angry that what happened to you happens to so many women op, don't misconstrue that as victim blaming Heyho.

Op how you have described him as being so charming as to 'get under your skin'' that your warning lights didn't go off or were muted is chilling.

It seems there is no escape from men like this.

What would be your advice to your daughters?

Thank you for sharing and as I said before, well done for getting out of it because that would have been very difficult.

Flowers
ajandjjmum · 03/09/2018 09:36

My DD is an intelligent, fiesty woman, but she was dragged in to a web in her early 20s - not as longterm or as abusive as the OP - but her upbringing and the love of her family were pushed to one side. She saw the light, but not before she'd behaved in a way that a year before I would have said was impossible.

Fortunately she's learned from it.

Perhaps show Buxton some respect Prettyvase - and with all respect to you, you don't know what your teenage DDs will face in years to come, or what they'll put up with. I learned that the hard way.

hellsbellsmelons · 03/09/2018 09:38

But the deep shame i felt and the memories still make me feel is something I've never shared
Sorry but your counsellor is a dickhead!
Please find a new one who specialises in abuse.
Womens Aid can help with a list of local ones.
You did well to end it.
But... NONE of it was your fault.
I'm so glad you are happy now.
You deserve that.
But please seek some GOOD help to understand that YOU should not be ashamed.
You didn't abuse anyone. You did nothing wrong.
It was all him.

allgoodinthehood · 03/09/2018 09:41

I took it from Pv post that she just couldnt get her head around the idea that some women in life at certain times are vulnerable.

Thankfully shes never been in that position.
I have snd it lasted 27 years. Its extremely hard to see what is happening at the time.
It can happen to any woman or man No matter how intelligent they are.
The abusers have their own agenda and you don't know which way is up when they get their claws into you.
Thankfully you made it out of the situation and for healing its good to look at all of the facts and work it all out.
But the one and most important thing I would like you to know is it wasn't your fault in way. How could it be.
Take time to heal and reflect.