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Waiting again for her too dump loser

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EASY1970 · 01/09/2018 00:35

I have known my girlfriend for 10 years and we were absolutely so in love but there were always obstacles and we separated quite regularly I always promised that I would put them first she had at the time a two-year-old son who is now 12 , I guess thinking about it now I always promised I could change and then before you know it was in the same place arguing about same problems, ( just to point out I was suffering depression and got addicted to sleeping tablets which caused no end of problems but she was always trying to fix me she stuck with me so long , ) which brings me to the present time or about a year ago we had separated and I was approaching my 46 birthday and I thought to myself I really do love this woman I’m going to actually get the help that I need so I can give this woman the unconditional love that she always gave me. During that time we was apart she started dating somebody but rightly or wrongly we were still messaging occasionally then she told me that she was with somebody who was her complete opposite he had been to jail for drug smuggling was a drinker drugs was very controlling very jealous anyway to cut a long story short she threw him out I know it was very sudden but we got back together when she threw him out during that time he would constantly harass her drunken calls text even though she blocked him he will get a new phone. I let her do it her way but I sensed she was finding it difficult to let him go and he was wearing her down but at the same time she was telling me how much she loved me and how proud she was of me that I changed , ( I was ready to love her and put her first ) she told how bad it’s been for her with him . You know what’s coming she dumped me and went back to him a control freak a narcissist within two weeks she told me she had him arrested on seven charges of intimidation broken property as 5 other charges her and her 11-year-old son were locked in her bedroom frightened of what he was going to do . He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and you guessed it we got back together and we was planning a future together we were even going to move and get a property together . She had a restraining order against him so we couldn’t come into the borough I was confident we were going to live happily ever after and grow old together. Six months past and out of the blue she said to me do you think we’ve just become friends via text message that was the last I heard from her as she blocked me on everything I was in shock as we wasn’t living together I had my own place as she did I took the stance of how could she do that to me again but I was devastated that wasn’t a day that I didn’t think about her what she was doing who with then I was driving through a local town centre and I saw her with a man and I messaged her and said I’ve just seen you you don’t look very happy she ignored me for two weeks and then replied her sparkle has gone she’s not happy I going to cut a long story short I got a message two weeks later to say as from today she is single it’s all kicked off and he is now out again I was solo and I missed it so much but I offered to take her to work to meet up for breakfast and she told me she was getting messages and voicemails at this time I didn’t week but a few days afterwards she messaged me to say it is the man who she had arrested. I didn’t judge her because I know what he was like a narcissist he’s got nothing without her and she provides everything for him , so she stayed round my flat that weekend , And I looked after her as she was diagnosed with skin cancer during the last time with him and she is due for an operation middle of September it’s very early stages and it looks like things are going to be okay ,She also told me she was suffering with migraines so I just looked after her I declared my love her and she did to me she was embarrassed that she took in back the second time especially after him being arrested, I thought this is it we’re going to be together you guessed it after about a week I called her one night and she said to me she’s feeling stressed she needs time to clear ahead I said okay that’s fine it was out of the blue but I respected her decision I left it until the morning and tried to call again to which I found she had blocked me and it went straight to voicemail I knew I could message her I said what’s up and she said he’s coming round to fix the back gate that he smashed up I couldn’t believe it I’ve never done this before but I decided to drive round to her new flat as in the time that she was with him she had moved which was going to be our place I turned up and and there they both were him driving our car getting out the tolls in the wood to fix the back gate I said to her what’s going on she said she doesn’t see a future with me rightly or wrongly I told him about himself without her he has nothing , I told her that I love her And she asked me to leave I could see in her the face it pained her to say such things and it was all show for him as she had been caught out lying again I wasn’t screaming or shouting he was the calmest person in the world and said we’ve all got history and carried on fixing the gate that was two weeks ago and that’s the last I’ve heard from her I’m sorry if it’s a little bit convoluted and rushed but I’m doing voice to text as it will take me ages to type this , how could she go back with someone like that especially as she has a 12-year-old boy on the and history they have , in the 10 years we were on an off together I’ve never raised a hand to her my main issue why I wasn’t with her I was going through a very messy divorce and of course my depression . The thing is I love this woman with all my heart and a leopard can change its spots I became a better version of myself and I put her first but she has lied to me so many times , Do I just sit back and wait for her to dump him again , he will never change he’s been in prison twice gets paid on Friday when he’s in work gets drunk it’s all words he can never change I’m a decent human being I have proved I can change and for the record when we was together we still had the passion still had great sex we were companions before lovers we were really good friends soulmates if you like I really don’t know what to do advice please would be gratefully accepted

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FissionChips · 01/09/2018 00:40

Can you whittle that down to a few bulletpoints?

MistressDeeCee · 01/09/2018 00:50

That was a hard (unpunctuated) read but I appreciate you're doing Voice to Text.

So sorry to hear you're going through this. To be honest I'd leave well alone if I were you.
Her crave for this unsavoury man is going to bring trouble into your life. She wants him more than she wants you - but when it suits her and she's had enough of his behaviour (for the moment) she runs back to you as her comfort and stability.

Yes you've had relationship troubles in the past but if she still loved you and wanted to work through this, she wouldn't be running back and forth between 2 men like this.

Save yourself the hurt and back away. It'll be worse for you further down the line if you hang around for months/years whilst she plays games

It's a worry about her little boy however - is there anyone you can speak to about this aspect? Contact Childline for advice, if she's had to lock herself and child in bathroom to get away from this man and there's also been a restraining order, he's not fit to be anywhere near her son.

I hope it all works out for you. Love is a strong pull - but it'll pull yoyinto misery if the person you love doesn't love you (enough) back

FissionChips · 01/09/2018 00:58

Oh, sorry. Didn’t realise it was voice to text ( Wasn’t trying to be a cow anyway).

EASY1970 · 01/09/2018 01:07

Thanks for replying, I’m reluctant too get any one involved,i don’t believe he will physically hurt her or her boy , more throwing and breaking stuff and drunken agressive behaviour. I know within the next few months she will kick him
Out again I’d like to say I won’t give her the time of day , but I think I will keep my distance this time and wait til it really is over , and starts too think with her head rather than her heart . She really is a smart woman , has a good job , but she is an empath , and likes too fix people . It pains me knowing this loser is taking her everything, if I can’t be with her I’d like her too have a happy life with someone who really loves her and knows how to treat her , he has a pattern he begs and begs that he will change then once sealed the deal reverts too his normal. Thing is I can’t stop thinking about her as much as I try , so confused

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bookbuddy · 01/09/2018 01:27

Your her fall back guy, Sorry to be blunt. she’s not seeing a future with you but knows you’ll be around to pick up the pieces. You need to move forward with your life she will keep coming back for stability and for old time sake, but she’s not seeing you as a permanent fixture. You’ll have a hard time moving on because as soon as she thinks you’ve had enough she will try to win you back.

bumpertobumper · 01/09/2018 01:40

As you say, she likes to fix people.
She was with you when you were depressed and had addiction problems, once you got better, stronger, sorted yourself out the dynamic in your relationship changed. Although seemingly more healthy, it didn't fit into her need to fix', so she found someone more broken who satisfies that need in her. Sounds like she is codependant.

You are better to walk away, don't be involved with her.

I worry for her son living in her drama. Please think about calling nspcc, ss or similar. He may not hit the boy, but that raging is abusive and damaging.

Stay strong for yourself, heartbreak will ease in time - cliché but true. In future avoid relationships where one is trying to mend the other.

EASY1970 · 01/09/2018 01:41

In an ideal world I’d grow old with her , but maybe this man will change and they will live happy ever after, then we can all move on

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EASY1970 · 01/09/2018 01:44

Thanks for advice really appreciate it

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bookbuddy · 01/09/2018 01:50

Forget the dream of growing old together, actions speak louder than words. He may never change but she’s already choosing him over you. You’ve done so well to overcome your own issues don’t wait around being sad for too long. Go out meet people have fun, you never know what’s around the corner.

EASY1970 · 01/09/2018 02:14

That is so very true actions do speak louder than words . I’m going to try and get on with my life and forget about her , if she does contact me if it all goes wrong I would like to say that I would ignore her , but what I will say is I’m in a good place I have no drama I’ve had enough drama for the last 10 years if you have got him completely out of your life maybe we could talk . Or a different scenario is that I have met somebody who really makes me happy and I do just ignore her , The thing is when we were together in the latter stages we laughed we were best mates , soulmates I guess things change

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EASY1970 · 30/09/2018 11:20

Okay latest update I am doing this voice to text so please forgive me for any errors so you guessed it I got a message on the 1st of September saying can I give her the number of a locksmith I know you’re going to say keep out of it but I messaged her and she didn’t answer so I drove round to her house walked up to her backdoor and her and her 12-year-old son with a petrified this was on a Saturday and she just came out of hospital for a cancer operation to remove the cancer the whole time leading up to the operation he had been drinking screaming shouting and turned up on wantonly at the hospital drunk abusing the nurses he was supposed to pick her up but turned up at the hospital blazing drunk when she got home here trashed the place taken her debit card drawn money out of it intimidated the boy as he was with his dad and brought him back I was unaware that he was bringing back to a very drunken crazy man and I gave her the option and her son what I want to do the little boy said he doesn’t wanna stay at the house they stayed at mine and she was telling me that I was her hero I save them the next 3 1/2 weeks with the most amazing we’ve all had together we were team yes it was too soon and he was still calling but she was saying she’s done it had a few bits and pieces that I needed to exchange but she said to me she wants to be treated amazingly and I have been fantastic as I was the last time we got together rightly or wrong Lee we booked a holiday for Christmas because it just felt good to cut a long story short I guess he wore down and she wasn’t telling me she said to me again she doesn’t feel the same and she’s trying to feel it all the time we was together and she had been thinking about him she told me she needs some space for her to miss me I cannot reiterate how fantastic it was for all of us and she was saying how it’s been for her and her little boy and now she’s free she can be herself and the little boy has excepted me and we went out one night and because she got the all clear from cancer he went to the fridge and got a small bottle of wine and said that’s for you mum And we duly poured three small glasses and a tiny piece for the little boy and celebrated to health and to the future .. so I gave her the space she gave me a few tops that I had there the following day I checked how our holiday app and I couldn’t believe what I saw she change my name to his name I called her and very calmly said I’ve seen the holiday and you changed it she said I was just seeing if I could change it I was thinking about him so I changed his name which is rubbish as we all know she said she would never put her little boy in that situation again but we all know that she’s going to go back to him and give him another chance remembering how many chances he’s had any can never ever ever change please help me I love this woman so much and I know she dearly loves me but she’s getting pulled in by a complete lunatic it’s going to ruin her little boy again .. so sad

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FuckItPassMeTheWine · 30/09/2018 11:40

This woman seems to be constantly hitting the self destruct button. You need to just let her crack on , block her and move on. You aren’t responsible for her bad choices , she sounds like a wrongun.

EASY1970 · 30/09/2018 11:53

She is not a wrongun She’s just really confused as I’ve been thinking straight for a long long while

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Blondebakingmumma · 30/09/2018 12:10

I’m sorry but she’s just not that into you. She clearly has issues being alone and you were the one to keep her company until she found someone else. Time to get angry with the way she has treated you and find someone who is worth your love

FuckItPassMeTheWine · 30/09/2018 12:15

Mate , she keeps on putting her son and herself in danger . She is doing this by choice....she isn’t confused. Trust me , she’s a wrongun.

category12 · 30/09/2018 12:19

She doesn't love you. She's stuck in a cycle of domestic abuse with this other man, and you're a bit-part-actor in their drama.

She needs to get out, and do the freedom programme, and sort herself out not being in a relationship at all for some time. You need to walk away and do some therapy of your own, to work through why you keep going back for more.

EASY1970 · 30/09/2018 12:22

I really do appreciate your comments and a lot of it makes sense but she loves me this isn’t me being deluded but I think she loves us both and the draw to the other guy is more than me

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FuckItPassMeTheWine · 30/09/2018 12:34

Why do you want to be with someone who loves someone else more? I recommend you commence no contact. Stop picking at the bones of this relationship , it isn’t healthy for you. If she wanted to be with you , she would. Focus on you and being the best version of yourself. You don’t need this head fuckery in your life.

EASY1970 · 30/09/2018 12:34

I also think we did take things too quickly both times we got back together but it did feel right but it was still raw for her and he all of a sudden he has been to the hospital got an appointment within a couple of weeks !and he’s going to be okay now and he’s changed in three weeks someone like him can never change , she isn’t one who would put her son in jeopardy the mother and son bond is so amazing there is so much love there

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EASY1970 · 30/09/2018 12:36

Because I know she loves me and I just can’t let go and I will be there to pick up the pieces when it goes wrong again but this time I will not rush you can’t help who you love

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FuckItPassMeTheWine · 30/09/2018 12:41

Well then if you’re totally set on always being her backdrop I don’t see what help we can provide? We’ve advised what we think yet you’re still adamant so....🤷🏻‍♀️

Raven88 · 30/09/2018 12:44

She is taking the piss out of you and you are letting her. You are convenient and she goes back because she doesn't know how to be alone and you will never be the one for her. You will be the practice guy, she will meet the one and leave you for dust. Sorry to be harsh but you need to value yourself.

EASY1970 · 30/09/2018 12:47

I know we know how good it can be when we are together and in the first stages of getting back it is amazing the three of us are retain But then I guess you get scared and start missing him it’s not a fantasy I’m not some lunatic I just know that we can be together please appreciate that I’m not looking for someone to say you will be together but I just need some advice and I know you think I’m being daft you’re not taking it but we are magic together but she’s just addicted to this guy

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FuckItPassMeTheWine · 30/09/2018 12:48

There’s a saying I heard (can’t remeber where now ) but it’s always stayed with me “you accept the love you think you deserve”... you need to work on setting higher standards for yourself. Everyone deserves to be in a mutually loving respectful relationship , this is not that OP.

SouthWestmom · 30/09/2018 13:04

Interesting you call him a loser - wonder how he thinks of you? You hang around, waiting for her to dump him, act like a mug coming to the rescue only to be walked all over while she goes off and has sex with him?

It's tough but she/he won't respect you while you act like this. There are a lot of women out there - this one isn't above all others.