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This is a yukky one - what would you do

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OMGMyLifeIsCrazy · 21/08/2018 03:28

I have posted before but lost my login so I've created a new one. Before you read on, this is a topic that I'm not comfortable discussing but I'd really love some feedback from other mumsnetters.
Ok, here goes - sorry for the long post.
My husband and I have been together for 18 years, married for the last couple. The first 15 years our relationship was difficult but we have always worked things out - destiny I guess and the last 2 years have been great except for one very big thing.
My husband believes I've cheated on him. No evidence, no proof - just a gut feeling he has. He says the right things - "that he's choosing to believe me and knows his thinking is crazy" but every time the conversation comes up and we have heated words, his true thoughts come out. First of all, let me explain that I have never cheated on anyone and I never would. By nature, I'm a 'do things right' sort of person and I rarely do anything illegal, immoral and generally, I'm very sensible. Secondly, let me say that it's unlikely that he has cheated on me. Finally, we have been to counselling, both individually and separately but the counselling hasn't really helped. This is the background for rest of this post.

Ok, sex talk now. I have never really liked sex much while he has a very high sex drive. A couple of years ago, he was having a casual smoke (yes, that sort of smoke) and I never joined him when he did this but really didn't mind that he did it sometimes as he never drinks or does anything else. Anyway, our relationship was going through a lull and I joked that if he passed his smoke to me, I might be more fun in the bedroom. As it turns out, I still don't have any real interest in sex until I smoke - inhibitions gone and sex life became amazing. Unfortunately, I think this is what fed his idea that I have cheated as I became a lot more adventurous and keen to try new things. He has told me a few times in the last few months, that he believes the imaginary person I cheated with must be well endowed because I am now very loose and he gets no real enjoyment from sex because of it. I am late 40s and I know our bodies change with menopause etc but I think the main reason he is noticing this is because he, himself isn't terribly big and in the previous times we had sex, I was never aroused or ready for sex. Now that we've found a way to enjoy things, I do get very aroused and this is why things might feel different. This makes sense to me but he honestly believes that someone else has 'stretched' me. I even got his dr to explain the impossibility of his rationale but he still believes what he believes.
Aside from the very obvious problem I'm sure you can all see with the above, the big thing I would love input on is whether I am being emotionally unreasonable in being devastated about the way he tells me these things. He is rude, condemning and uses very graphic language when explaining his beliefs. It makes me feel dirty (even though I've done nothing wrong) and generally devastated that he thinks this of me and my body. After our last chat a week ago like this, I now don't want to have sex with him as how you can relax or enjoy if you know your partner thinks you feel like a prostitute (he has said this on one occasion). I try to do kiegels regularly but I really don't think he is right about the size of things down there. I think I'm pretty normal but always seemed super tight before because I wasn't aroused.
Thanks for reading this far - just typing it has been therapeutic. If you have any thoughts that might help, please comment but be kind. My self esteem is pretty crushed these days.

OP posts:
Pepper123123 · 21/08/2018 10:30

I think he needs a biology lesson.

To be a grown man and think a vagina can be stretched permanently by a large penis is ridiculous.
It's a muscle. It expands and retracts.

Ask him if his mouth is permanently stretched after he eats a big burger.

Sounds to me like he's being that way because he feels guilty....
Also sounds like he's a plain old arsehole though.

Dennishoppersocks · 21/08/2018 10:59

Your son was out of control AND you’re in an abusive relationship. Do you think the two might have been related? Or do you blame the bad 15 years on the child?

He’s an adult now so presumably your partner is now rid of him?

Jesus.

OMGMyLifeIsCrazy · 21/08/2018 11:18

That's an interesting question dennishoppersocks. My son is out of home but now he gets along beautifully with DH and wishes he hadn't caused so much trouble while at home. He really was a difficult child... Not just the normal naughty stuff either. Three well balanced kids and one off the rails so not really a victim of his environment.

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Kennycalmit · 21/08/2018 11:46

Oh my god I’m surprised you can even stand to be in the same house as the creep let alone have sex either him!

How bloody insulting!!! And how uneducated as well - he clearly knows NOTHING about women’s bodies!

Ignore the posters giving you grief for smoking a bit of weed every now and then Hmm

Cambionome · 21/08/2018 12:48

He treats you beautifully "apart from around the accusation topic"??

You mean he's lovely apart from the times he calls you a prostitute, complains in the most horrible and misogynistic ways about your vagina and accuses you of having multiple affairs?

That's a pretty big "apart from" isn't it?

Honestly, op - I've been on these boards for a long time and your post is one of the saddest and most disturbing that I've read. Please reread what you've written and try to discuss it with someone in real life.

He is awful. Just awful.

bethy15 · 21/08/2018 15:05

I would say to you OMGMylife that if you are in doubt, why not talk it over with Women's Aid.

You're having problems anyway about this, so talk to them and tell them everything about it. I'm sure you'll be a lot clearer about it afterwards.

It's so fucked up that he's only into sex with you when your body is literally rejecting him so you are tight. When your body is ready for sex he's saying it's a turn off and berating you and calling you a prostitute and worse and uses graphic language.

He's sexually abusive towards you and emotionally, but don't just take our word for it. Talk to someone, talk to the GP who had to tell him how the body works, yet he still doesn't believe it. Why not go to see the doctor again and say what hell he's putting you through due to your body behaving normally during sex.

I hope you're still around as you've gone quiet, but I do feel you need support.

Sshhbear · 22/08/2018 01:21

OMGMyLifeIsCrazy - I will PM you. I may have some ideas for you as I have been in a similar situation. I do find that a lot of people on Mumsnet think the answer to every problem is to leave the marriage. Not saying this is or isn't the answer in your case but sometimes it's nice to have someone to talk to who can emphasize with your situation.

bethy15 · 22/08/2018 07:38

OMGMyLifeIsCrazy - I will PM you. I may have some ideas for you as I have been in a similar situation. I do find that a lot of people on Mumsnet think the answer to every problem is to leave the marriage. Not saying this is or isn't the answer in your case but sometimes it's nice to have someone to talk to who can emphasize with your situation.

I would advise against telling her anything other then that, just because you might wish to tolerate some for of abuse does not mean anyone else should.

Her husband is calling her a whore for her body doing as expected. She went to the doctor and asked him to explain, he did and he is still accusing her of an untrue affair. He also cannot enjoy sex unless her body is literally resisting it.

Please, off the advice in the open here and not in private, because really the OP's account is shocking and she shouldn't be advised to stay and placate him about this. Read how distressed she is about what he's doing to her.

I'm quite worried as to what you would suggest she do with a husband who has said he doesn't want sex unless her body is resisting it.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 22/08/2018 08:02

I don't want to be alarmist, but what with the weed and the paranoia, I'm wondering if he's suffering from Othello syndrome, named after the Shakespeare play, in which a man develops unfounded jealousy. A relative of mine had it.

Othello Syndrome: The delusion of infidelity of a spouse or partner. The Othello syndrome affects males and, less often, females. It is characterized by recurrent accusations of infidelity, searches for evidence, repeated interrogation of the partner, tests of their partner's fidelity, and sometime stalking. The syndrome may appear by itself or in the course of paranoid schizophrenia, alcoholism, or cocaine addiction. As inOthello, the play by Shakespeare, the syndrome can be highly dangerous and result in disruption of a marriage, homicide andsuicide.

It's one of the few psychiatric disorders that can be dangerous to others. I'd consult my GP as a matter of urgency.

Your DH is abusive and an idiot to boot. A big penis can't stretch your vagina any more than scarfing up huge slices of pizza can stretch your mouth.

You got married after 15 years. Sounds like you were headed for the rocks and slapped a wedding on it like a plaster.

You say The first 15 years our relationship was difficult but we have always worked things out - destiny I guess.

Read what you've written. Relationships really aren't supposed to be this difficult.

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