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45, first time pregant after 4th IVF and H emotionally abusive

47 replies

13Jiblet · 17/08/2018 13:18

Hi ladies. Pleased to meet you all. I'm new to mumsnet andI am so glad I am on here as I am virtually alone.

I am finally pregnant after many years of trying and thousands of pounds leaving my account (my husband did not contribute). My husband is, as I am finding out a narcassist.

I was carrying twins. In week 8 I sat on the loo almost 2 hours bleeding heavily and after various A&E visits and EPU it was confirmed I lost one and the other remains. I am now 11 weeks today.

On week 9 (exactly 7 days after the miscarriage) my husband was due to fly to Sydney to see his parents with his 13 and a half year old daughter from his ex. He had a massive arguement with me because I asked him to tell his parents and familyy the truth as to why i wasn't flying with him (he booked the flights 7 months earlier for him and his kid, and if I didn't pay for my flight again (I pay for 90% of al hols) i wasn't invited and in 4 years of marriage, non of his family had ever called me or spoken to me). Anway, as he left the house, ranting and raving, he told me to get out, to move back west with my parents and that half the house was his.

He was out there 2 and a half weeks. He did no call me once to see how i was or if his baby was doing well. I spent that time with horrendus morning sickness and didn't go out to drive to supermarket as I had fainted out of nowhere in the street 2 weeks before.

So, he arrived back to the UK on Sunday. I had cooked a meal and the house was spottless and all washing and ironing done. He ate the food but did not utter a word. It is now Friday and he has still not spoken to me. I am beyond despair. How can aman behave like that towards his wife and unborn child? He has cooked meals for himsef in the evenings and there is nothing for me when I get in from work at 8pm. He washes his own dishes but is petty enough to leave a spoon or plate I used in the sink.

All I do is cry. This is my first baby and will probably be my only child if God willing I carry my little bean full term. I live all the way out in east kent away from my family just so he could live near his daughter. My family live 60 miles away west London. I told the mid-wife of his emotional abuse. She said that if I need ti transfer my care I will need to start all of the process again with a new mid-wife in west london. I am loathed to burden my 70 year olf parents, I have no one going to appointments with me, no one asking how I am. Part of me thinks I should pack a bag and leave for good. Part of me is waiting for him to see sense and apologise but I know he never will as he is a narcisist.

His 13 year old was a mistake (and I know that sounds horrid, I don't mean it like that) - he got his ex pregnant and they had to marry to legitamise it. She then threw him out due to his anger issues when the daughter was 3. In my case, we have tried for a baby for 4 years, been to every clinic together. ... and now that I am pregnant, as his wife, he treats my like dirt on his shoe.

Has anyone else been through something like this?

xxxx Thank you for reading. Just needed to get this out even though it is over the airwaves. x

OP posts:
hellsbellsmelons · 17/08/2018 13:29

So what is the house situation?
Is it your house in your name?
How much has he contributed?
4 years is quite a short marriage.
I would get legal advice as a first port of call if I was you.
He sounds vile and you should not be with him.
That much is very clear. But get to a solicitor to see what separation would look like.

NadiaLeon · 17/08/2018 13:39

Awful man and poor you.
If it were me, I am not sure I'd want to bring a baby into this world with this man as it's father. You'll be tied to him for a long time unfortunately.

Bambi99 · 17/08/2018 13:45

He wont change hun, you need to think of you and baby, the emotional stress of living with this guy wont help when your heavily pregnant or when baby arrives and he is kicking off at her for crying etc. Go to your doc or midwife and asked to be referred to women's aid they will help u and get a free consultation with a solicitor. All the best in your pregnancy i hope the morning sickness eases, take care of your needs xx

looondonn · 17/08/2018 13:47

So sorry

Been through this last year

Stuck it out
After ever fight thought it would get better

It got worse

Can you leave today? This weekend?

Do not go back to scum like this
He is scum
Treats you very badly

ListenLinda · 17/08/2018 13:55

LTB. Seriously. This is not good for you or your unborn baby.

SandyY2K · 17/08/2018 14:01

He sounds like a living nightmare to live with.

Considering he didn't contribute towards the IVF does he even want the baby?

I truly feel sorry for you, but it doesn't sound like his abuse is anything new, so I'm wondering why you continued to pursue having a baby with such a nasty man.

I understand wanting a baby, but it doesn't sound as though he even likes you. More like he's using you.

I pay for 90% of al hols)

in 4 years of marriage, non of his family had ever called me or spoken to me

Do they know you exist? As his wife?

How can a man behave like that towards his wife and unborn child?

Very easy for a man who doesnt love you or care.

Did he tell you his Ex threw him out because of his an ger issues?

Musti · 17/08/2018 14:02

Leave him and look after yourself and your little baby.

DPotter · 17/08/2018 14:03

Congratulations on your pregnancy. I hope you're starting to feel better from the morning sickness.

Go home to your parents, until you can sort out alternative accommodation. See a solicitor about your situation - to give yourself options.
Don't worry about re-registering - you're not the first to move home when pregnant and you won't be the last - that's one of the reasons mothers to be hold their own notes - you may not have got yours yet.
There's plenty of time to find a supportive birthing partner.

looondonn · 17/08/2018 14:05

Go to parents for a few months

They won't mind

Get your stuff and baby papers then go

MaybeDoctor · 17/08/2018 14:06

Don’t be put off by starting again with a new midwife. Women move house all the time.

Just take your maternity notes with you and they will get you into the system.

SandyY2K · 17/08/2018 14:08

If you leave the house he sounds like he'd make it hell if you came back, but there's no reason you can't visit your family for long periods at a time.

The stess is definetly no good for you or the baby.

Have you ever spoken to his Ex?
What's his relationship with his DD like?

SandyY2K · 17/08/2018 14:09

Typo
*the stress

NotTheFordType · 17/08/2018 14:28

I think in your shoes I'd be moving back to my family and I would tell him that I'd lost the baby.

I know that may sound unethical but there's no way I'd want 18+ years of being tied to a man who would use contact and maintenance to control me.

You and your baby deserve so much more than this abusive arse. He won't change. Do you really want to bring up your child in a relationship where the father spends a week not speaking to the mother over the heinous crime of asking him to acknowledge his child's existence to his family?

ThomasRichard · 17/08/2018 15:08

He’s already told you the marriage is over and is separating his life from yours. If he won’t move out then you can either stay as you are or move out yourself. You need to see a solicitor ASAP to find out how to proceed.

Cawfee · 17/08/2018 15:33

Wow. He’s vile. Tell him it’s not ok and you want him to leave. Once he’s gone you can start to work out what you want to do next. Is the house in both of your names?

13Jiblet · 17/08/2018 21:17

Thank you all. Really needed to hear people's thoughts. I'm going mad. I worked from home today and then drove to mum's as his daughter is over tonight till Sunday as usual (despite them just having near 3 weeks away in Aus) and I really don't want to see them playing lovely dovey whilst ignoring me! His child is spoilt by them both as she is all they have. The thing is he can be very normal but then occasionally he goes psycho like now. He is a child in a man's body! I'm not daft. I earn 2 times more than him, have my own properties, 2 degrees and can do anything from wallpapering to carpets to huge feasts and am a lawyer by day. He hates that about me, as he has nothing (or so he says, earns higher tax bracket salary, pays £400 a month to his ex, rest paying back his debts and the remainder, well, who knows what he does with it)! I have told him (before he stopped talking to me) in no uncertain terms to man up or else I will leave him and he will have nothing but "half a house". His family don't speak to me because I complained about the abuse he gave me.. they either took his side or were ashamed of him to talk to me. Financially I will be fine as I've worked every weekend since 16 and never borrowed a penny, not even from my parents when at uni and post grad nor loans from banks - just hard graft. ...and now he wants to control me so he screams at me or ignores me completely. I have only ever heard him say sorry once in 4 years, because my parents made him
In the recent past he has called me a c*nt.. I cried for ages after that one... it's so disgusting. Who says that to their wife? Anyway?
I'm at mum's so I'll try and clear my head this weekend. I have my 12 week scan on Fri so have to go back to Kent and just live in silence for a bit...if I can survive it there to 16 weeks I can get my papers then I'll move my care west and beg one of my friends to be birthing partner or my sis in law or just do it alone. I don't know yet. It's just all too much. I never ever thought I'd be here. I'm soooooo good with kids, even his daughter and he knows it... I can talk to the elderly, young people anyone, like my mum does. He hates that humanity in me and will do anything or say anything to bring me down or tarnish my shine. He is not always mean, he used to love me, which is why I married him despite no money and his daughter and ex wife baggage.... but more often than not he now treats me like muck on his shoe. 😶😑

Thank you all again for your support.

Xxx

OP posts:
expatinspain · 17/08/2018 21:34

He isn't going to change and relationships that are already damaged just get worse when a baby is added to the mix.

You are in a fortunate position financially, so there isn't anything keeping you there. Even if you can get through this bad time, how long until the next? You must resent him already and I just don't see how you can come back from this in all honesty. He's treated you appallingly and if you keep trying to sort things out, it will just get worse and worse until there are no good times left. Just insults, abuse and sadness. You don't want to bring your much longed for child into this toxic mess.

13Jiblet · 17/08/2018 22:36

Thank you. You are right. I guess I'm.just having a difficult time adjusting my mindset knowing I'm at my most vulnerable state now and it sickens me tjat he does not call. Mum just asked me "has he called to find out where you ate tonight?" - of course not.

I know what I have to do. Just need it to sink into my fat head and heart.

Thank you again.
Xx

OP posts:
lowtide · 18/08/2018 00:29

Go and be happy and stress free and safe. And love your child xx

looondonn · 18/08/2018 00:35

please please dont go back there

change the date of the scan if you can or go down for the day ask work to help you out

fck him

you sound amazing he sounds like an utter loser

SandyY2K · 18/08/2018 00:49

Can't you move into one of your properties at some point?

Good thing you've left him to it. He's horrible. He sounds like a big user. He pretended to be nice to reel you in ...then he showed his true self. His Ex cottoned onto him.

He's not worthy and coparenting with him will be a nightmare as he seems to strongly dislike you.

Domino20 · 18/08/2018 00:52

You are colluding in your own misery, for fucks sake, get out of there before your child is born and grows up thinking this behaviour is normal. 70 isn't old, your parents will be thrilled with a baby on the way. How can you be so educated and yet so blinkered.

I know I sound really harsh but you need a huge kick up the arse. MOVE ON.

Themerrygoroundoflife · 18/08/2018 00:57

The moving area bit is honestly so so so easy. Don’t delay or make life miserable because you are worried about that. I’ve done it twice during pregnancy. It’s easier than changing doctors surgery!

Don’t be afraid to reach out to your sil or friends. Honestly, if even an aquaintance was in your shoes I’d do all I could to help her.

MissP103 · 18/08/2018 03:25

It seems like you knew exactly who he was before you fell pregnant so you are in this situation because you've chosen to be. Sorry that's harsh, but from what you've written he treated you badly for a long time and you wanted to be pregnant more than see the relationship for what it is.

He cant be more clear as to how he feels about you right now. If you choose to stay then again you know what you're in for. If you already know hes abusive why would you even consider raising your child with him??

It seems like financially you will be fine, so theres nothing really stopping you.

KittenThatWantsToRoar · 18/08/2018 04:23

Firstly, I'm proud of you that you know that you DO shine, and that this is about him, not you... But you sound like you are too independent. It's okay to ask for help.

It sounds like your parents are more than willing, and anyway, you are more than capable and financially stable, so you can settle yourself given time.

But you need and deserve support in the interim, so let that humanity in you be helped by others' humanity.

I would bet there might be someone you like in your life, that you can form a closer bond if friendship with, or you can make friends. It's just about letting yourself be vulnerable.

You deserve so much better and he's showing you he isn't going to give that to you. Take him at his (lack of) word.

Trust yourself, and learn to trust others (who deserve it).

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