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Help, my beautiful family is being ripped apart

62 replies

TroubledBroken · 19/06/2018 19:35

Dear all,
After 8 year of marriage and raising our two young wonderful kids my trust has been shattered and I feel very lost.

It started a few months ago after my wife who used to take an interest in what I did, kept in contact when I was away with work etc became distant and no longer had any opinions on what I did/say. She stopped chatting to me about her day and started to miss/ignore my calls/msgs.

It turns out she has been seeing someone else for the last few months. She started texting, then meeting up, going to gym together etc. I became aware of this when one morning she had left her phone in the kitchen and it flashed up with a saucy message from him as I was there. She was in bed still but I went up and confronted her, she immediately deleted the messages and everything on his name that I saw on the text. After a heated discussion she said it was just someone from the gym and it was nothing more than just someone to talk too. After this I was completely shocked, it was out of the blue for me. Also I didn’t believe her. However, she was really sorry, said nothing had happened and would never contact him again. She stated it made her realise how much she loves me and also she realised now how much I loved her, as I was so upset. All the right words were said. We got over it and moved on, I was very hurt but wanted us to be good again and to look after the kids.

However it turns out this was all lies from her. She still was messaging him and meeting up with him. Over the next few weeks she was meeting him in London and staying overnight (unknown to me, she says it was with another girlfriend but does admit meeting him there). She picked him up from the airport after his work trip and spent the afternoon with him. It turns out he is a married father of another child in the same class as one of our kids and they actually met at one of the class birthday parties. This all came out when she lied to her dad to babysit so she could go out and meet him and was caught out. She then said it wasn’t working between us and she wanted to separate. She started seeing a solicitor about this. She continued saying complete lies to me to try and hide her tracks.
But after her family became involved and we had some very heated discussions, she is now suddenly all repentant again, really sorry again, really loves me again. She still insists nothing happened but just someone to talk with. I know that can’t be the case, in all our years she never used any contraceptive but funny enough had a coil fitted a month ago, she told me at the time and gullible me believed it was for us (that is now gut wrenching for me).

In all this time, she was still saying nice things to me but in hindsight I feel she was just stringing me along. We had a lot going on in the last few years with serious family medical issues, a house renovation and a dispute with a neighbour. She says I didn’t help her when she was in the dark hole arising from all this and was pleading for help. I was focused on work/house and kids and readily admit I didn’t give her enough time and attention. I never stopped telling her I loved her but I blame myself on not picking up the signs of her distress with all the external issues we had going on.

We are still living together in the same house, she says she wants to move on with us and not talk about the past anymore. I want to, I love her so much, we have the most amazing kids, but my trust is shattered and suspect her lies and sudden switch from wanting separation to trying to make it work again is not genuine and its going to get worse again. I have told her I will make sure I give her time and attention going fwd, listen and act on her concerns. Now two weeks later she still seems to be trying to make it work with me but I just don't know. She has changed all her passwords and still on her phone at night. I want to say give me your phone to see what's going on but know that will cause hell. He is so close to home by being another class parent and so how can it ever stop! Can she really come back from this? I still don't know if I can. What are you thoughts? Thankyou so much as I don't have many people to talk to.

OP posts:
ichifanny · 18/08/2018 08:38

This is awful she’s celarly still into this other man but in a sort of limbo of not knowing what she’s wants , take the choice off her and make her realise what she is losing , don’t allowe her to pinball back and forth to you both . Make sure other mans wife knows , other man will either back off or your wife will leave , crack the whole thing open and if she does decides to stay amd you want her too you need no contact with other man and full transparency .

0hCrepe · 18/08/2018 08:47

Actions speak louder than words. Her conflicting begging and declarations of love come easily through words but she simply doesn’t have the will to stop seeing him. If she really did love you and her family the way she says, that’s where she would be. So awful and confusing for you.

NotTheWayISeeIt · 18/08/2018 11:25

I would leave her. She has treated you awfully. Not only has she cheated on you but she has lied and lied and tried to put blame back on you. Her dishonesty about it has been cruel.

In some ways the fact that she has continued to lie and take you for a fool might help you in the long term. At least it must help remove any doubts about what type of women she is.

Even if you don't eventually do it I think you should be preparing for a divorce - you need to look at your finances etc and make sure everything is in order.

I think she should be the one to move out.

Also, as mentioned by earlier posters, you need a STD test and I think you should tell the guys wife.

You need to be proactive and try and take control now. You've given her enough chances. It's clear that she doesn't care about you.

God luck for the future. It will be a rough ride for a while but it's time to give up on this marriage.

ravenmum · 18/08/2018 11:45

Sounds a lot like what I went through. I thought he was just tempted, talking etc. Then I found his e-mail password and discovered they'd been sleeping together regularly from two weeks after they met. The times when he'd appeared to be coming back to me were when OW's husband found out and warned him off, and she broke it off for a while. My then husband's "feeling sad because of me/other issues" was actually because of that short breakup, and because he was feeling afraid about the implications of ending our marriage, and wondering if it would really work with OW and make the split worth his while. I'd been assuming he was "innocent until proven guilty", so when I realised it was a typical sleazy affair I felt like a total mug. In retrospect it all seemed obvious, and I had been very naive.

Your wife is no longer on your side; she's protecting herself, so will admit only to what you already know, if that. If you contact the OM's wife, you might find that she already knows stuff you don't.

Stop wondering about what she is doing and start wondering what you are going to do. Do you want to be with someone whose word you can't trust? I'm afraid the beautiful family is already a thing of the past. What will you do next that does not involve waiting for her to do something?

If you don't have many people to talk to, you could consider counselling - it is brilliant talking to someone whose actual job it is to listen to your crap.

rosabug · 18/08/2018 22:07

I'm sorry to hear about what you are going through. Been through similar 18 months ago. Different circumstances though and we didn't make it. I never told the OW's partner - they had 2 young children and I thought he might lose out re contact as I know life is often unfair to separated fathers. A part of me wishes I had though, but I was so frightened of alienating my partner further as well at the time, I just couldn't.

I wouldn't tell, but I would make her move out. You need to think and she needs some hard love. She's in Lala land and taking the piss. If you don't get tough she will continue. Find your self-respect - you DO NOT deserve this and you don't have to put up with it.

I'm sorry but I think unless there are some dramatic realisations from her and some action from you - the relationship is done - might take another 5 years to die - but it is done. Love is as Love does.

Tryingagain1 · 18/08/2018 22:16

Sorry OP, I can't see any way out of this other than divorce. She's a lying cheater and you deserve better.

Thinkingofausername1 · 18/08/2018 22:57

I'm so sorry op. You sound like you have been doing all you can to support your family. Did she ever tell you she was having a 'dark' time? It sounds however, like it's just a way to blame you for her behaviour.

AusFrosty · 19/08/2018 02:39

You have done all you can do - you tried to make it work - but this has to end. Next steps:

i) See a solicitor re: divorce.
ii) Tell the OM's Wife.

You need to change your default position from "trying to make it work" to "divorce" - and mean it.

Maybe, maybe she will snap out of it, and then you can decide if you can ever trust her again.

Thinkingofausername1 · 19/08/2018 09:24

I think you need to tell her she hasn't played her part of the deal. She can't say in one breath she wants to stay with you, while carrying on with someone else.
I think it's time you became less tolerant to her excuses and give her one final warning.

Monny1 · 19/08/2018 09:47

I really feel for you and your children. You sound like an amazing husband and father. Your wife doesn’t deserve you. Don’t let her treat you like this anymore. You all deserve to so much more.

ElspethFlashman · 19/08/2018 10:31

Read this OP: www.chumplady.com/2012/04/the-unified-theory-of-cake/

About the temptation for the Cheater to have their cake and eat it too.

It's all about the drama. And one thing that stands out from your account is the HIGH DRAMA of your wife's reaction, whilst she was simultaneously buying a bloody burner phone in Tesco whilst doing the weekly shop or whatever. All this begging and bawling.... She's on her knees now? Really? Does she think she's in a melodrama? Probably. God knows the impassioned texts she's been sending him. She's the star in her own miniseries "The Woman Who Just Loved Too Much"

And that drama is part and parcel of the psychology of The Cake Eater. Read it and absorb. And whilst you're at it, read the link to The Pick Me Dance whilst you're at it.

letsdolunch321 · 19/08/2018 10:46

You have tried to make her end the affair.

The guy in this situation is taking the piss ..... Firstly I would tell his wife today, yes TODAY he thinks he has it all, another woman and a wife ..... BLOW HIS WORLD APART .... THE WAY YOURS HAS BEEN BLOWN APART FOR MONTHS.

Next, consult a solicitor regards divorce.

Your wife deserves nothing.

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